Collision avoidance system and Euro Ncap

Collision avoidance system and Euro Ncap

When will it be avilable in the S?

All premium sedans on the market has something similar as standard or an optiion (Adaptive Cruise Control etc.)

Soon to be an standard in all cars sold in Europe .

I have been told that the S will have wiring prepared for this (?)

And when When the S be tested by Euro Ncap?

I didn't get the chance to ask Elon personaly when he came to Norway. (But he really answered a lot of questions from the invited audience - impressing)

Pungoteague_Dave | 19. August 2014

@amped "Also, which car has an active safety system that would apply hard braking at freeway speeds to avoid a collision?"

Virtually all of the newest collision avoidance systems (new for 2013/14) have this functionality and can stop the car all the way down to zero. These systems, installed in the latest Toyota Prius, Mercedes, Lexus, Acura, Volvo, etc., have already saved a lot of lives. A rear end collision between two cars that are both moving forward is a lot less impact full than a moving car striking a stationary object. Further, no car should be following so close that it would strike a forward car that undertakes emergency braking.

From a recent NYT article about the new IIHS testing on avoidance systems:

"The decision to do the testing and ratings grew out of insurance claims data suggesting that forward-collision warning systems alone reduced collisions with other vehicles by about 7 percent and by 14 percent when automatic braking was added... The insurance institute estimates that more than 20 percent of 2014 models offer a front-crash-prevention system with automatic braking; forward collision warning is an option on nearly 40 percent of 2014 models."

EdwardG.NO2CO2 | 20. August 2014

@PD, I am not opposed time Crash Avoidance systems but find them immature and marginally useful except in low speed crashes (25MPH or less). If Tesla included a currently acceptable system I would take it but not stand up and cheer about it! Below is some research similar to my previous post but extra copied text. Looks like no one bothered to actually read the links I posted so here is the goods condensed.

Collision avoidance test ratings
Sep. 2013 seems to be the largest test criteria I can find.

The Institute rates models with optional or standard front crash prevention systems as superior, advanced or basic depending on whether they offer autonomous braking, or autobrake, and, if so, how effective it is in tests at 12 and 25 mph. Vehicles rated superior have autobrake and can avoid a crash or substantially reduce speeds in both tests. For an advanced rating a vehicle must have autobrake and avoid a crash or reduce speeds by at least 5 mph in 1 of 2 tests.

Wiki list of many automobile makes and their system actions but no top speed mentioned! See my condensed list below.

In an important 2012 study[5] by the nonprofit research organization Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, researchers examined how particular features of crash-avoidance systems affected the number of claims under various forms of insurance coverage. They found that two crash-avoidance features provide the biggest benefits: (a) autonomous braking that would brake on its own, if the driver does not, to avoid a forward collision, and (b) adaptive headlights that would shift the headlights in the direction the driver steers. Unexpectedly, they found lane departure systems to be not helpful, and perhaps harmful, at the circa 2012 stage of development.

Cars with the CAS: mention of operating speed
Fiat...low-speed crash avoidance system that works between 5 and 30 km/h. mention of operating speed
General Motors... Mentions low speed braking
Honda...although first adopter no mention of operating speed
8 more brands are listed and none mention operating speed

It seems to me the testing awards superior ratings for appropriate action only up to speeds of 25 MPH and no one claims to work at higher speeds. At this point the majority of the benefit is to the insurers and driver premiums. At that speed not many serious injuries would avoided.

I will cheer and demand a system when they are tested at typical highway speeds (not just speed limit) so look forward to seeing anything that exists or is even being developed. For now no CAS on my car is not much to worry to talk about.