NJ Governor Christie

NJ Governor Christie

I didn't vote for him in 2009.
I didn't vote for him in 2013, either. Perhaps that means there will be a lane closure coming out of my driveway, I don't know.
If he runs for President, I wouldn't vote for him.

That only gets to the tip of the iceberg of how I feel about him. "His Royal Immenseness" has been bought and paid for by big corporations tied to oil and the traditional auto dealerships.

And boy am I ANGRY!!!

You who own (or want to own)a Tesla should be pissed off too.

I have other thoughts in mind, but in the interests of decency I choose to keep those words out of it.

Others are welcome to chime in.

sharpe222 | 11. März 2014
People in Jersey are tiring of his act. Hopefully Bridget Kelly flips and he ends up in jail where he belongs.

thranx | 11. März 2014

This will do wonders for him nationally, right?
Show of hands?

tes-s | 11. März 2014

I've never voted for him either. It was never an option for me since I don't live in Jersey.

I'm not angry. It is just politics.

His side of the story seems to be he is simply going by current law that required cars be sold through dealers. Tesla got a temporary exception.

I have no idea who is being truthful and don't really care - truth does not seem to matter much in politics. It is up to the people of NJ to fix it. NJCAR does not vote.

Tesla is doing a good job - get the people riled up and try to get the press interested in their David vs Goliath, EVs vs big oil, story.

jbunn | 11. März 2014

Can't say I care for the guy, and would not vote for him for president. NOW, I will be happy to work for his opponents.

tonysled | 11. März 2014

Amen jbunn. I posted that very thought to another thread and it was deleted.

lolachampcar | 11. März 2014

I will not lift a finger to work for any national candidate until money is removed from the process completely. I would be happy to lift all ten fingers to work on removing money from the process.

CC is just a particularly NJ style in your face version of the corruption but even that does not seem to be enough for the average citizen to turn away. I have no issue with up front "in your face" types per se, it is the politician part that I take exception to.

TeslaLandShark | 11. März 2014

"His Royal Immenseness" - hahaha!

brooklynrab | 11. März 2014

Christie, Cuomo, they are all buyable. While I am a strong believer in federalism, this is where it comes up a bit short, because corruption is so much easier on the local level, out of the larger press spotlight that you get on the federal stage (but then a gain, its easier to to vote the local bum out of office than the federal one).
By the way, I wouldn't want to be a resident of NJ when Christie decides he can't run for president -- then he will really turn evil and there will be no governors on his actions other than an oversized jail cell.

Mel. | 11. März 2014

Why is it that this tri state area is so up in arms against Tesla? Not trying to offend anyone that thinks these politicians are special.

Is Texas really so different?

I will be vacationing in Rhode Island, where they love Tesla. That's a funny.

Musker | 11. März 2014

I am sure NY & PA will enjoy the extra sales tax revenue

Plugged In | 11. März 2014

My thanks to TeslaLandShark. Actually, I had a different nickname for him which is less politically correct but goes straight to the girth of the matter. I'll leave it at that.

The problem to me isn't about corruption although that is an issue in and of itself: Here, it is about some people protecting the way of life as it used to be, through rose colored glasses that refuse to see anything they do not wish to see. With every revolution in life there are 1000 people standing in its path hoping to obstruct it. 110 years ago, the car itself was an obstacle and silly laws were created to prevent them from going as fast as a horse -- such as requiring someone to lead the way and walk in front of the driver. Most people would have pined for a faster horse that ate less food and didn't poop everywhere, if they could only find a way to get one.

And, as they said, "if man were meant to fly he would have had wings". After a few trips on United Airlines, actually, I think they have a point.

It took a long time for society to accept that the earth was not flat.

It took a long time for society to accept that the sun did not revolve around the earth.

It took a long time to accept the fact that the earth is older than 6000 years. Some still refuse to accept that one.

So while I acknowledge that corruption is an issue and I don't duck from it, I also point out that (AHEM!) one political party has made a habit of late, along with a sort-of-allied political group, of standing in the way of progress for stupid, silly, childish, ridiculous reasons, every bit comparable to lane closures due to phantom traffic studies. They obstruct, and they defame ("Tesla's fault?" Really??)

And they cannot be trusted to run a toy railroad village, let alone a government. Not in Texas, not in Arizona, not in New Jersey, in which all three governors belong to the....

Mel. | 11. März 2014

Andrew, come on. Are you saying that the Republicans were responsible for laws enacted 110 years ago preventing cars from going as fast as a horse? And all of this was done in New Jersey.

joeinslw | 11. März 2014

When I drive down any road in the USA, Christie is just another person with NJ license plates, and when I see that plate I turn the steering wheel the other way, Tesla should do the same thing.
Tesla doesn't need NJ, and the NJ residents don't need Christie, and if the voters there are smart, they will vote him out next time his immensity runs. I always thought that Christie was for the average guy, isn't that point that made him so popular?
I wonder how the NJ State Legislature feels this evening, do they feel less important? Christie makes you feel less important, and I wonder how he got around the State house as fast as he did without the Legislature noticing?
Can the Legislature do anything about it now that he ignored the legislatures laws ? Can they veto his actions?

sharpe222 | 11. März 2014

Dems have majority but can't override Christie veto by themselves

Dramsey | 11. März 2014

It's annoying as hell when states pass rules like this.

However, as far as Tesla's concerned, this worries me more.

bevguy | 11. März 2014

Dems have a huge majority and probably could over ride a veto. Has Christie actually vetoed any legislation? Has the Dem majority actually passed a bill?

Not a Christie fan but blaming him for legislation written by a Dem controlled legislature is a bit weird.

In any case it's a tempest in a tea pot, I doubt if it will reduce sales. I had to go out of state to get a demo, and bought on line. People in NJ will do the same.

Plugged In | 11. März 2014

No Mel, I am not saying that the Teddy Roosevelt Republicans enacted stupid laws about cars back then, I am saying that the Republican Party is the party of government by obstruction. We have seen this over the last 5 years at the federal level time and time again, and we see it now with the Christie administration.

This wasn't a first for our rotund Republican leader, either.

Early on in his administration he made clear that NJ Transit would have to live on a great deal less, costing train service and increasing our fares 25% at the same time. That was hardly an environmentally friendly decision, in addition to the financial burden it caused to both NJ Transit and its riders. It is not uncommon for NYC commuters to shell out on or close to $400 per month, thanks to him. On top of which, he cancelled the Trans-Hudson tunnel project which would have improved service, created jobs for the construction, and likely increased ridership too.

His decisions involving NJ school districts have also meant higher property taxes AND less state funding for schools at the same time. Again, we pay more to get less.

And now we have this.

People respect(ed) him because he is plain-spoken: He tells it as he sees it. He doesn't back down. He won points for welcoming President Obama and thanking him for his help: Had his fellow Repubs at the Federal level had their way, Christie would have gotten nothing. Some Republican pundits blame that on the lost 2012 election: They are wrong about that, but it did clinch Christie's re-election for sure.

But at the end of the day, he is just another guy standing in the way of progress. And, not coincidentally, he is Republican.

Mel. | 11. März 2014

andrew, if you like Tesla you cannot be a bad guy.

I think the entire Tesla community will agree with you about Christie..

After that , you go off the tracks. Your argument is overly simplistic. The all Democrats are good and all Republicans are bad is silly.

Take a look at Connecticut..

Anyone know of a Governor that has been pro Tesla?

S_X_NJ | 11. März 2014

Here's a petition to Christie. Let's sign and send him a message:

J.T. | 11. März 2014

@andrew.berman. Now, please share with us a few words about Governor Cuomo and Shelly Silver.

Canary2014 | 11. März 2014

Christie and Cuomo are both truly the definition of sleazy politicians. They are truly the epitome of everything that is bad and questionable about politics and politicians.

mbarontseff | 11. März 2014

I'm pissed at what NJ did !

I won't go into any political details, but what about free enterprise, capitalism, build a better mousetrap..

Canary2014 | 11. März 2014

The hypocrisy!!! The hypocrisy!!! These politicians talk about "climate change" but they do NOT practice what they stay up all night in the congress to preach....Democrat or Republican, they are ALL cut from the same cloth!!!

Canary2014 | 11. März 2014

....but you know....It is really, really our fault as the electorate....We make these stupid choices when we voice for the likes of Christie, Cuomo, or any other....

tes-s | 11. März 2014

@musker - sales tax gets paid where the car is registered. Even if bought in another state, it would go to NJ, except I don't believe NJ charges sales tax on a Tesla.

If I lived in NJ, I'd rather drive out of state to buy and service the car, than pay sales tax.

Sales tax here in CT is 6.35% - 7% for luxury cars like a Tesla.

Canary2014 | 11. März 2014

....I meant to say "vote" for the likes of....

kback | 11. März 2014

Christie and Cuomo, Republican and Democrat, both corrupt. Politicians suck! They don't represent their constituents any more, only those willing to bankroll their campaign. Another sad day for American government.

tes-s | 11. März 2014

@sharpe222 - the democrat legislature has not passed legislation, so it is unknown whether or not such legislation would be vetoed by the republican governor or not.

tes-s | 11. März 2014

+1 @canary. Elections have consequences - we get what we ask for, whether it is Christie, Obama, or anyone else.

AlMc | 11. März 2014 | March 11, 2014

My letter: Governor Christie (and NADA friends), Thank you for all the free publicity you just gave Tesla. TM will continue to not have to spend a dime on advertising if Texas, Arizona and now New Jersey politicians and their auto dealership friends continue to try to block an innovative and 'green' American company from selling the Consumer Reports highest scoring car ever in your state(s).
Since TM is currently supply constrained we will turn our attention to helping the US with it's trade deficit and sell our cars abroad instead of shipping our jobs there.
Please keep up the fight for at least another year or so, invite some other friends in other states to join in. This will undeniably result in rising demand for our cars in your state and prompt the federal government/courts to take up our cause (and pay for it) while we get our Gigafactory built so we can meet all this pent up demand.
Please accept our condolences for all the letters you receive from your less than happy constituents who will be forced to circumvent your archaic laws/rules and obtain a car in another state or who will be subject to continue the 'wonderful' experience of sitting in a dealership showroom. At least the will get a free cup of three day old coffee for their trouble.

Sincerely, A former supporter who votes in every election

Plugged In | 12. März 2014

The way I see it, I concur that both Democrats and Republicans are to blame for various ills.

One party accepts the concept that climate change is both man-made and real. The other refuses.

I could go further and discuss other issues such as concern for the less fortunate, gay marriage and other so-called morality issues, but that point is clear enough already. My point here is that Christie acted like most corporate Republicans do, in that he sided with the way things were and refused to look ahead to the future.

And yes, he is a BIG...

J.T. | 12. März 2014

@andrew NJ is a blue state run by a democratic legislature. They did this, not Christie. They can undo it. They can pass legislation in favor of EVs. They're all agreed that it would be important for climate change, right?
So what the hell are your democratic legislators doing? They're doing the same thing as the Republicans. They're kowtowing to public interest groups.
Ny is a blue state with a Democratic Governor committed to an EV infrastructure (ChargeNY) Shelly Silver is scarily powerful. Want to bet what your precious democrats are going to do?
They're all the same. Public be damned, where are my campaign contributions coming from?

Michael_Bluth | 12. März 2014

Corruption knows no party lines in NJ. Few years ago, Dems held the majority and held the governorship and they were awful. Who knows what history will show about Christie's administration. The legislators will just look out for their own financial interest.

AmpedRealtor | 12. März 2014

To be fair, I don't think this had anything to do with the legislature. I believe the legislature is only now being made aware of what happened from Tesla owners writing to their elected representatives. One such person posted their legislator's response, which is that they are looking into what happened yesterday and look at options.

This was a rule change implemented by the vehicle commission and with Christie's approval. That bypassed the legislative process and the rule change was done without allowing public comment. In fact, public comment was allowed only AFTER the rule was changed.

The way this went down was very shady and involved no democratic legislators, in fact it did not involve the legislature at all. That's one of the reasons why people are calling foul.

NKYTA | 12. März 2014

This isn't about Dem vs Rep. It is about $$$. I agree with @lola and others that we need to put an end to lobbying and cap campaign spending with no corporate money allowed. It probably won't happen in my lifetime, but nothing will change if it isn't done. And while we are at it, toss out the two party system, it is silly.

Plugged In | 12. März 2014

I recall reading about the story of "Ben & Jerry's", in that when they tried to expand out of Vermont, they found Haagen Dazs in the way. So they cooked up a protest: "What problem does the doughboy have with us?"

The same goes here.

And if people get mad enough the dealers will feel it. Nothing like a little embarrassment to shame them and change their ways.

carolinagobo | 12. März 2014

They are so corrupt why not give them a good campaign donation to change their educated minds.

tes-s | 12. März 2014

Was it a rule change, or they failed to renew the 1-year exemption granted to Tesla?

Not clear to me at all whether the dealer requirement is by executive rule or legislative statute in NJ.

JohnGlenney | 12. März 2014

Just after hurricane Sandy, when New Jersey received the devastation that they still haven't completely recovered from, Cristie made a series of comments indicating that global warming played a significant role. He sounded sincere in his comments and suggested he would do what he could to fight for New Jerseys future ( sea level rise alone will have profound effects on NJ). If this was more than just lip-service, he and his staff would be driving Teslas, and he would be encouraging Tesla to expand their presence in his home state. But I guess he is more interested in promoting the special interest groups.

Plugged In | 12. März 2014

I view His Royal Immenseness as one who protects, rather than promotes, special interests that are in his circle.

But I am now convinced that this will not deter Tesla from pressing forward. People will still buy Teslas in NJ, they will soon get to charge them in Edison, they can service them in Springfield, and in a few years we will get a new governor -- maybe sooner, if the Bridgegate thing eats him up the way he goes through a pound of mashed potatoes (or so it seems). Yes - cheap shot. He earned it.