Traffic jam at the hawthorn supercharger today

Traffic jam at the hawthorn supercharger today

Around 3pm I got the last fee spot before about 5 more tealas showed up.
Got to talk with sone very cool owners.

While conversing i noticed that my rear tesla embalm is missing.
Got my car in Friday will have to call and see Whalen I can get it fixed.
Also didnt receive a tesla branded license plate holder

Other than that so far soooooo good.

kilimats | 10. März 2013

csb ?

shop | 10. März 2013

Why was Hawthorne so busy? Just Sunday commute traffic?

Brian H | 11. März 2013

How many stations, how many cars were waiting, how long did it take to get started, how long did you charge?

July10Models | 11. März 2013

No pics! It didn't happen

bobinfla | 11. März 2013

There were no waiting lines at any Floridaa Supercharging stations today.

negarholger | 11. März 2013

Bobinfla +100

nickjhowe | 11. März 2013


skulleyb | 11. März 2013

There are 4 stations. I charged about 30 minutes.
How do i post pictures?

nickjhowe | 11. März 2013

You should upload the pictures to fickr, or your favorite hosting site, then copy the 'share' code that starts with <a href=... or <img src=...

If the code already includes a "width=" item, change the number to be 600 to make it fit here; also delete the height="..." bit so that the picture retains its aspect ratio. If it doesn't, find the bit of the code that starts with <img src=... and find the > sign. Add width="600" just before it.

You should be good to go.

FLsportscarenth... | 12. März 2013


Yeah SuperCharging in FL....! Waiting for that! Are you in Miami?

Brian H | 12. März 2013

With all the lightning in Florida, I thought you just needed a long antenna and a HEAVY cable.

skulleyb | 12. März 2013
skulleyb | 12. März 2013
skulleyb | 12. März 2013

I took pictures right after i got there and didnt take them after the pile up.
Was talking to the other owners to much. But as you can see from the back of my silver S im missing my Tesla Emblem and a nice license plate holder. Im on the way to the west La service center today to hopefully get it fixed.

bobinfla | 12. März 2013

@FLSportsCarEnth: No, I am up in Tampa. Can't wait until the SCs arrive somewhere in Florida to open up my joy riding range.

Brian H | 12. März 2013

FL awaits the "No-Charge Charger Charge".

Logical_Thinker | 13. März 2013

Nice pics, thx for sharing. Someday (I hope soon) there will be full parking lots of these solar-shaded charge spaces.

exPGAhacker | 15. März 2013

The Hawthorne station will always be busier because for many Tesla owners, that Supercharger is within a reasonable distance to "top off." One of the challenges Tesla faced in So Cal was where do you put a charger for MS owners who last charged in Tejon and are continuing on to San Diego, an additional 190 miles plus or minus.

Good for the owners who live and/or work near the Hawthorne charger but bad for the folks who really need it to continue their journey. I will hope there will be honor amongst owners so the locals will not use this Supercharger as their personal charging unit.

Brian H | 15. März 2013

They will/should eventually figger out that the free electricity is paying them back at minimum wage or less for the time spent to collect it.

negarholger | 15. März 2013

@exPGAhacker - I live close to the Gilroy SC, so I am local. Why should I not use SC when needed?
I used to drive by the SC in my ICE two or three times a week - always nobody charging... not a single car. I bet most of the times the SC are not used.
Last Sunday after I had my MS for a week I went to Gilroy to test the SC... no car in the stalls. So I plugged it in and came back after walking around for 10min and then there where all four stalls occupied and 5 MS waiting (looked like the Monterey crowd was heading home) - side note : it seems to me MS owners like to socialize at the SC... just kidding.
We all are in the process of learning...
Next Tuesday I will need to use the SC because I come from long trip and next day I need to go on an even longer trip and I can not recover to full range in my garage overnight (TM can not supply the adapter needed)
So for me the only question is how to deal with it
- sit in the car and if stalls are full pull out ( I am not in a rush, and I understand folks want to move on )
- get a cell phone ( so far no need for me to have one ) and put sign "charge not critical- call me"

We'll figure this out over time... this Tuesday I'll sit in the car and read the manuals.

defmonk | 16. März 2013

The Hawthorne Supercharger is right on my commuting route with no detour required. I really doubt that I'll use it much, though, since it's just so convenient to wake up with a "full tank" at home. Unless they add a Starbucks, who wants to stop for 15 min on an LA freeway commute? Some schnorrers will use it as their commuter top up, it really doesn't make much sense to do so.

mdennick | 16. März 2013

I was dropping family off at LAX last night, after full day of driving around. I thought it a good time to try Hawthorne SC for the first time. I've had my 60kWh MS for about 6 weeks and 2700 miles so I'm fairly comfortable with its range behavior. I had about 60 rated miles left for 40 mile drive home; adding a little wouldn't hurt and a good excuse to see the SC. I drove by at 11:00pm but the JH road was blocked and closed. I drove around the other side but same prob. Oh well, maybe next time. I made it home too but didn't need to waste the energy. I also ended up having to take detours because of traffic issues. I got to see the yellow battery graphic and dashed line on the power indicator for the first time. It could have been much worse for me. Still, I was miles from Brodering. ;-)

There isn't an app with real time SC status that would have helped? Recargo and Plugshare didn't. It would be convenient.


skulleyb | 16. März 2013

+1 on realtime status of sc.
Could build it into an iPhone app or new app for the car.

Joel N. Weber II | 16. März 2013

With only 9 locations, a simple web page with real time status would be plenty for now.

flyfr8 | 16. März 2013

hello from Miami .... awaiting delivery of my MS in april.....
are there SC in florida?

bobinfla | 16. März 2013

Congrats Flyfr8, but warning, the days do go slower the closer you get. No superchargers in Florida yet, recharge supercharge vicariously through the californians for now.

exPGAhacker | 16. März 2013

I'm not saying don't use it. If I were close and it was convenient, I'd probably do the same. But I will assume there are a handful more MS owners in the surrounding LA area than in the Gilroy area so the Hawthorne location is a bit more problematic than most being located in a highly populated area as it is.

Whether we want to admit it or not, we are part of a cool new community. I think we'd all bend over backwards to assist fellow owners. My point originally (which I probably didn't make clear) was my hope that we all work together and treat the SCs as a bonus, not as a given. If someone were on a long journey and I was just topping off, I would yield the station... as I suspect most of us would.

I haven't needed to rely on an SC yet but will be making my first long road trip on Saturday afternoon before Easter. Heading from Tustin, CA to Paso Robles, CA. The plan is to stop at the Tejon station to charge while I grab some food. Then onward to Paso where my father in law is saving a trickle charge outlet for me in the garage. However, he hasn't said whether he's willing to give up an actual garage spot to me yet! I'm hoping the cord reaches the driveway!!

Brian H | 16. März 2013

Do the math I suggested: calculate the value of the electricity your get, and divide by the total time (driving to/from, and charging). I think you'll find you'd do better at a minimum wage job.

Brian H | 16. März 2013

type: electricity you get ...

WHY is the typo obvious and frontandcenter the INSTANT you hit "Submit"? Does the "seeing what you expect" function turn off as soon as you relax your attention? Grrrr...

negarholger | 16. März 2013

It is not convenient and definitely does not pay my time. I have only 110V charging right now until we have figured out my electricity... my commute is 5 miles RT so no problem. However back to back long trips are not possible out of my garage currently, but we can always take the other car.

I wish TM would sometime in the future publish the SC patterns so we could avoid known crowding. I was just simply shocked... From zero to nine in 10 min. There are also lots of MS in the Bay Area and going to Monterey area you need the Gilroy SC on the way back.

And I have no problem to abort the charge I don't need... I just have to stay with the car or get a cell phone.

Joel N. Weber II | 16. März 2013

I think there may someday be some apartment dwellers who can't easily charge at home who might be more likely to buy a Tesla if Supercharger use in a city were a reasonable option. At today's Model S prices, though, it may turn out that the people who can afford the car can also afford a good parking space.

Brian H | 16. März 2013

The true, new, upper-echelon hirise will have its own dedicated Supercharger. And fill up with Tesla owners.

negarholger | 16. März 2013

Brian that is actually an excellent idea - not only for upper-echolon hirises.
Close to me they are prepping to build midlevel appartments and requesting chargers at design stage would make it much easier then retrofitting existing buildings.
I was thinking to buy an appartment there as an investment, so I will approach them as an interested party and make clear I need EV charging. If enough folks ask thevdevelopers will put that on their list of nice to have.
Never thought about that before...

tesla man 8k | 18. März 2013

I have a card I leave on the dash, with a phone number. If someone needs a charge and I have enough electrons for my journey, I will make the charger available sooner rather than later. Apts makes this even easier.

Bob W | 18. März 2013

On March 15, @Kleist wrote:

TM can not supply the adapter needed

I'm guessing that you need an old 3-prong 240V dryer plug adapter, officially known as the NEMA 10-30? See

Though not yet listed on the Tesla Gear web page, call Fremont Service to see if they have any 10-30 or 14-30 Model S adapters available. If not, order one. I waited two months, kept asking, and they finally did get both of these Model S adapters to me. They work just fine (both draw 24A at 240V).

If none are available and you can't wait for one, go to any hardware store, buy a dryer plug cord and a 14-50 or 6-50 outlet box, and make your own adapter. You'll have to manually dial down the charge level to 24A using the charging screen, but this will work fine too.

negarholger | 18. März 2013

@Bob W - yes, silly me... the day I picked my car at the factory someone else reported 10-30 are available at Fremont... I was to excited to stop a couple of feet down the road and ask (though I asked the DE - no). Couple of days later I asked Menlo Park days later and they had none. In the mean time I made an adapter myself as per instruction on the forum, but not tested yet (I have to do triple duty at work right now). We are getting there... also my house electricity starts making progress.
The upcoming back to back drives I'll split between the E320 and the S... just driving the E320 feels so ancient.

awilder | 20. März 2013

@skulleyb - I think I was car #3 in the lineup after you. It was definitely fun chatting with you and the other owners while we waited. I think the traffic jam was mostly because it was such a freakin' beautiful day in SoCal. :)

You get your Tesla emblem yet?

J Nemeth | 28. März 2013

Just pulled up to Hawthorne SC about half an hour ago, and all 4 spots had cars in them with what looked like a 5th waiting. It turned out the 5th car was a Tesla person going on a test drive. He told me that 3 of the cars were just being charged for delivery and that if I went inside, they would move one. So if it looks packed, and especially if there are cars with no plates charging, remember to go inside and ask.

Heading back home to Vegas and hoping the Barstow SC isn't packed! (It was empty at 8pm Tuesday when we drove out)


skulleyb | 28. März 2013

Great meeting you!
I have been on vacation for 10 days.
Going a but nuts with out it lol

Darmok | 28. März 2013


We have a group of about 12 owners in Vegas, if you want to join us let me know. Safe travels home.

bbmertz | 29. März 2013

@Kleist, the 14-30 adapter is now available on the Tesla website, although it would be best if you could find one at a service center to avoid the high shipping charges:

J Nemeth | 29. März 2013


Yes, I was wondering if there was a group out here. Not sure if there is a way to PM on this forum. Or if you don't mind going to the FlightLine Films website, you could email me there.



negarholger | 29. März 2013

@bbmertz - thanks for the info. I got my 10-30 a little while ago at the service center. I asked often enough...

Darmok | 29. März 2013


Couldn't find your email address at the website-- you could PM me over on the TMC forum, same username.