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Josef Stalin Would Be Proud

If someone had told Josef Stalin that in less than 70 years after his death the leader of the free world would be strutting around in his capital city on Independence Day like some third world tin horn dictator complete with full military display, he would have considered his mission accomplished.

jimglas | 21. August 2019

yes, I want to know what you consider is "radical left". What specific actions or behaviors?

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

I dont have my own individual definition. Use the objective way to define it. If not, try referring here. I have never had to explain to someone what the radical left is, as if i have my own definition of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radical_left

SamO | 21. August 2019

Radical left is a made up term for when people aren’t sufficiently scared by the word socialism.

SamO | 21. August 2019

Even your bs wiki entry had nothing for any radical left group in the United States.

Lol

jimglas | 21. August 2019

I suspect it is simply a term that you use in an attempt delegitimize those with an opinion that differs from yours.

SamO | 21. August 2019

This is made up. Even the wiki redirects to other groups.

Wow. That’s new when someone posts a self refuting definition.

Nice job Andy.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

Theres clearly a disconnect of people willing to acknowledge a radical left in this country.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

Sometimes, those who are ignorant to the existence, are a part of it.

jimglas | 21. August 2019

you cannot even define the term yourself
why would anyone "acknowledge" an undefined term?

SamO | 21. August 2019

So your wiki “definition” wasn’t actually a definition which makes me a part of this undefined organization.

Omfg a perfect self defining bit of jibberish.

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

@andy. Yes you are trying to make a point so we need to know who you are referring to and who needs to calm down. I think I am leftist, not radical and overall not angry. But yes many things piss me off. I would actually put stupidity and dishonesty at the top of the list. So now who is the angry radical left that needs to calm down and which of us here needs to clam down before you would recommend we take action.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

making assumptions about people to delegitimize them is fun. I see why you do it so much

SamO | 21. August 2019

Can you name a single person that is a member of the radical left?

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

And now back to the original post. Does this sound Stalinist to you guys?? Just checking
https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/21/politics/greenland-donald-trump-denmark/i...

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

@SCC

by the way, i said the radical left. jim said angry radical leftists. So if you're talking to me, best leave jims added nonsense out of my words.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

But enough about that, We are late in our next topic of 'Todays Donald Trump'. Back to you!

jimglas | 21. August 2019

It appears that you cannot define "radical left"
Why do you insist on using the term other than you think its a slur

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

@andy. Let's not parse words. So who on the (non angry) radical left needs to calm down before you will address gun control. If you have no good answer lets get back to Stalin and how proud he could be.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

oh i stopped taking you guys seriously after what i said got twisted and filled with assumptions. Carry on about Trump please, that seems to be the most interesting thing for the last 4 years.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

@SCCRENDO

attacks on freedom of speech by ways of compelled speech is something im particularly worried about. Call that the beginning of something bad. 20th century history follows that trend. I am not sure though, in the bigger picture, banning guns is not just about people dying when considering consequences that could require them. Difficult topic.

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

@andy. Nobody here has stated that it is as simple as banning guns. It is a complex problem that needs to be attacked from multiple angles. And we are not calling for an outright ban on guns. We are talking about limiting access and better control. Again the gun nut strategy is to cherry pick one aspect and complain that if we address it we are on a slippery slope. "Slippery slope" even entered Trump's statements today. And ultimately nothing gets done. Your only debating point on this thread was to throw out the term "radical left" as if it was a big barrier and that ends the discussion for you.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

We should be careful about not repeating 20th century decisions that led to disaster. Regardless if people describe them as being "slippery slopes". Part of learning from history is not repeating it.

SamO | 21. August 2019

So that’s the end of radical leftists then?

Lol

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

radical left, sjw's, democrats, whats the difference!

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

@andy. Give it up. Argue the point or get back to the original post. Your attacks and snide remarks about people with more liberal views than you are uncalled for and not seriously backed up by any data. If you want to play gutter games I could provide you with reams of articles showing why Trump and many Republicans are both stupid and dishonest. A lethal combination.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

so were all the assumptions with no evidence. the game is fun

You couldnt possibly go a day without talking about trump. Get us our daily dose

sabbia | 21. August 2019

Andy...I will not be ad homonym but you're making it hard. Slowly but surely the fact-denying, anti-vaxxers, America Firsters, yes, racists and anti-Semites answer the question we all have "Who the h*ll are this divisive, dumbed down, grievance-based substrate of Americans? Not everyone has all of these traits...thank God.

Now, I'm not saying you, I don't know you but I will show you below that you are writing some very odd things.

You never said "angry" radical leftists but you say radical leftists need to "calm down." Do you see that you're shucking and jiving on that? If you are not saying "angry" then why the h*ll do they have to calm down? If they are just speaking loudly, do you really need assault weapons to protect you? More likely they are angry and violent in your worldview...but you can't bring yourself to say "angry." Well, then what?

We wonder why the president of the United States is indecent and just who his supporters are. We have one here who doesn't want someone who is not in his "class" to have a hospital bed. We have someone else here who yells at crying infants.

And now you. You write, "The fundamental existence on our right to guns is to have the ability to defend against a tyrannical government. I dont [sic] think its unlikely for that to happen to the U.S..."

I mean Wow. Are you going to take your AR15 and get at the black helicopters? Your enemy will have howitzers and bazookas.

Every now and again the seemingly disenfranchised post their personal confessions. Remember what Pogo said. We have met the enemy and they are us.

andy.connor.e | 21. August 2019

If you automatically assume im advocating for the AR15 thats a good assumption. Well played assumption actually since thats the "go-to" gun for when anyone disagrees with gun bans.

So do we start from the top? Never said anything about assault weapons. Some are calling for a blanket ban like Australia, some are calling for assault bans. I am not on either side because i dont know what a good solution is. I think a blanket ban could be almost as worse as doing nothing, but thats being said not knowing the unknown consequences that we cannot predict.

But again, i kind of did stop taking this seriously when my post like 40 comments ago got twisted and injected with assumptions. It is good politics talk tho.

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

LIke many on the right we have to fact check you before we believe you. Australia did not ban guns. It bought many of them back and tries to tightly regulate them. And yes we should try emulate Australia but would be unlikely to get that far.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_law_of_Australia

I guess you see now why it is so hard to have a pleasant intellectual debate with people like you and Mitch and of course Neo and Tesla 2018. You all tend to be slightly loose with the facts and tend to switch subjects or pull out the nickname tray in Mitch's case when you realize that you guys have lost the debate.

Neomaxizoomdweebie | 21. August 2019

Woah woah woah! I NEVER realize when I’ve lost a debate!

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

@neo. And that would be another thing that I failed to mention.

Neomaxizoomdweebie | 21. August 2019

@SCC,
You mean pulling out the silly, self deprecating humor in an attempt to defuse a situation? Sorry.

sabbia | 21. August 2019

Andy. Help us stop making assumptions. What radical left do you want to calm down before you will agree to some additional gun restrictions?

Who are these angry people...of course you don't know them by name...but for whom do need guns to protect yourself? Is it a group like the Weathermen? Black Panthers?

If you're not talking about assault weapons, just what weapons will you be using against a tyrannical government? Again, you said we've been injecting assumptions.

If you want to post, and if you want people to stop making assumptions, you hopefully see the need to clarify.

I am in tremendous agreement with you that there were some disasters in the last century. Just which ones are your referring to and why do you think that the angry left needs to calm down before we can stop worrying about the mistakes of the last century?

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

Nope I definitely meant your inability to realize when you have lost a debate.

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

@sabbia. Your logic is so refreshing. Thank you. I am enjoying your posts.

tew ms us | 21. August 2019

@Andy - It's high time we got serious about the dangers of global warming. Step 1 is for Congress to pass a law raising the gestation period of cows to 13 months. Any dairy farmer who fails to obey this law would have to buy "fart credits" from farmers who sell off their herds.

But, seriously, our war on drugs has created cartelsl of drug smugglers more powerful than the countries in which they reside. There ought to be a law to implement common-sense drug control. Don't let those ridiculous if-you-make-fentanyl-selling-illegal-only-drug-dealers-will-sell-fentanyl arguments fool you; only simpletons who can't make solid ad hominem arguments resort to that.

Oh, by the way, welcome to the echo chamber.

Neomaxizoomdweebie | 21. August 2019

@SCC, are you a doc?

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

@tew. Yeah I should add you to the list. How come you are unable to have a sensible debate on climate change, gun control and illegal drugs. Someone with knowledge and intelligence would be able to do that. Your only strategy to get into the mix would be infantile humor. And you wonder why our tolerance for you is so low.

@Neo. Yes I am.But I am functioning here as a private citizen. Why do you ask. Is it relevant to the conversation.

Neomaxizoomdweebie | 21. August 2019

@SCC,
Not so relevant to this conversation. Definitely applies to fixing broken health care. Was interested in knowing how you felt about LCHF diets, ancestral diets, eating the way our paleo ancestors ate. Wife and I have switched over and seen remarkable benefits over the past year. Wish everyone could do it so we could eliminate most Type 2 diabetic disorders. Was considering starting a non-offensive healthcare thread in the general forum but I’m sure I’d only incite a riot.:-)

rxlawdude | 21. August 2019

Radical left is defined as the opposite of the radical right.

Simple. ;-)

tew ms us | 21. August 2019

@scc Rrductio ad absurdum arguments can indeed be humorous. Ad hominems are only funny in a self-congratulatory kind of way.

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

@neo. Is definitely off topic but I am a hyperactive kid and easily distracted. Keto diets work on the principle that if you get rid of carbohydrates you metabolize fat. Fatty acids get broken down to 4 carbon chains called ketones. These require carbohydrates for further metabolism. If they are not there ketones build up and they decrease blood pH, make you feel sick and most importantly kill your appetite. In the short term they work well. In the long term they are difficult to sustain. In diabetics particularly type 1 who are unable to metabolize carbs they can go into keto-acidosis (bad and potentially fatal). other problems include what you substitute the carbs for. Usually fats. Plant fats are fine, excess animal fats not and I have seen massive rises in LDL cholesterol. In some patients not on cholesterol meds with great cholesterols I have seen LDL levels double to the point where they would need powerful statins. This corrected to normal on going off the diet. If you add too much protein and have kidney dysfunction the protein can accelerate kidney function loss. So I am not a fan. I recommend lower calories, exercise, reducing carbs but not to the point of keto and slightly increasing polyunsaturated fats. Hunter gatherer populations have total cholesterol levels of under100. But contrary to popular belief their diets varied among different populations.And their diet was indeed mixed with berries and animal products. It was much more diverse and healthier than the later populations that farmed selective crops. Thsi is addressed in the book "sapiens" which talks about the destructive powers of our "civilization"

Neomaxizoomdweebie | 21. August 2019

@SCC,
Thank you for the reply. It’s been a fun journey learning about ketones, lipids and lipoproteins, fasting and autophagy, good fats and bad fats, omega-3 to omega-6 ratios, and all the rest. Primal Body, Primal Mind is a great read, as is Metabolic Autophagy. Currently reading Weston Price’s Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.
The food pyramid really did a number on those who eat the Standard American Diet. Those nations who have avoided Westernization seem to be in better health as a result of their food choices. If only Americans cared about their diets as much as their politics...

SCCRENDO | 21. August 2019

I don't think we care enough about our politics either

rxlawdude | 21. August 2019

A great movie (on, I think, Amazon Prime) is "Fed Up," a sobering documentary on the food pyramid and how we were skunked by the food industry. It's got an interesting take on carbohydrates and what form they come in playing a major role in weight control. Goes along nicely with what @SCC wrote.

A few years old, but worth the watch.

Neomaxizoomdweebie | 21. August 2019

The Magic Pill on Netflix is another good one.

geo.teepe | 22. August 2019

You guys are much admired by Stalin's ghost.
He is happy now

rxlawdude | 22. August 2019

At least it wasn't Mozart's ghost. That would threaten the entire 'net!!!

Neomaxizoomdweebie | 22. August 2019

Wow, a reference to The Net. That takes talent!

rxlawdude | 22. August 2019

@Neo, I keep up with the movies, especially geeky ones.

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