New development in Lithium Ion technology

New development in Lithium Ion technology

The story continues... Research team at Polytechnical University of Zurich use nanocrystals to significantly improve storage capacities of Li-Ion batteries:

george210 | 08. April 2013

Wow! If this proceeds successfully Tesla will be able to buy smaller, lighter Lithium Ion batteries from Switzerland in the future. Swatch out for Gen 3 Tesla. --- sorry, I just could not stop my self :-)

Nicu.Mihalache | 09. April 2013

It's only 10-15 years from production, if it ever goes there.

Whenever you see "nano" in a new lab wonder, you know it will take forever to be mass produced. And there are still challenges they have to figure out how to make it last a long cycle life.

Panasonic already has silicon electrodes in the pipeline and there is a chance it will be ready for Gen III. But those lab tricks are pies in the sky.

I'm following Tesla since 2004 or so. And all the other wonder batteries from researchers around the world. There has been a revolutionary discovery about every other week. But except A123 (turned B456 lol) and maybe one more which went Ch 11 too, I haven't seen those unicorns in the wild for almost a decade.

george210 | 09. April 2013

Thank you for the sanity check Nicu.Mihalache

Brian H | 09. April 2013

Very sciency. Except for "The nanomaterial is composed of tiny tin crystals, which are to be deployed at the minus pole of the batteries (anode). " The anode is he positive pole, I'm almost positive -- not to be too negative about it. ;P

the electrode or terminal by which current enters an electrolytic cell, voltaic cell, battery, etc.
the negative terminal of a voltaic cell or battery.
the positive terminal, electrode, or element of an electron tube or electrolytic cell.

Glad I cleared that up. Sugar with your mud, anyone? LOL

Brian H | 09. April 2013

typo, of course: "... is the positive pole ..."

flar | 09. April 2013 complicates it further:

In a discharging battery, the anode is the negative terminal.

In a recharging battery, the anode is the positive terminal.

patrick.meier | 09. April 2013

So sorry if anyone got the impression from my post that Model S deliveries would as of Monday continue to be with a 2'000 mile range per charge at a 50% discount. That was not at all what I meant.

What I meant was simple: Research continues and results will follow.

It is true that taking a technical improvement from lab stage to global commercial success can be a lengthy process. However, most of my customers do exactly that. Some have been doing it for many decades, some for a century or longer. And all they hear is: "It can't be done. It will take far too long. You will never get there." (Does this sound familiar to anyone working at Tesla?)

But that is wrong. It can be done and it will be done. If not with this development, then with the next one, or the one thereafter. The story continues... :-)

aviatoruss | 09. April 2013

With the exponential leaps in battery technology that lie ahead, I`m sure that by the time I need a replacement battery i`m expecting 500 miles, 5 hour charge time, 0~60 in 2.5 seconds.

lph | 10. April 2013

5 hours!
Improvment un-indeed.
Maybe a bit less I hope.

Zelaza | 10. April 2013

aviatoruss wants to do 0 - 60 mph in 2.5 seconds.

Just push the car (any car, or rock) off a 110 foot cliff and it will hit the ground at 60 mph in 2.5 seconds.

mdicecca | 10. April 2013

If any one is interested I know of a great conference focused on the breakthroughs of new battery chemistries, novel electrode and electrolyte materials, system integration for a vast array of mobile, portable and stationary applications, from micro medical devices to high-energy/high-power automotive.

Its called Next Generation Batteries 2013. I attended last year they had some good content on emerging technologies relating to EV.

Brian H | 10. April 2013

I guess that would qualify as true 1G acceleration? ;) Experienced as freefall. 'Till the sudden stop.