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After-purchase EAP/FSD covered by insurance?

After-purchase EAP/FSD covered by insurance?

I added EAP (6k) and FSD (lucky, 2k) to my 2018 RWD LR Model 3 after purchase. I have been going in circles trying to pin down my State Farm insurance agent as to whether those features would be considered in valuing the car if it were totaled. Traditionally, after-purchase add-ons are not, but with software upgrades that make the car identical to what it would have been if the features had been on the original invoice, not so simple.

Seems like the industry is still trying to figure this out. Kelly Blue Book trade in value for my car gives me option to include EAP as a feature, which bumps the value by $3,300. No option for FSD.

Edmunds shows only "Adaptive Cruise Control", which in 2018 was one feature of EAP - a trade-in value bump of $980. No options for the rest of EAP, or of FSD.

If my car were totaled, I would be really unhappy if my insurance company based replacement value on the car without EAP/FSD, and I had to shell out $11k or whatever it is now to replace the features on my new vehicle! I would be willing to pay a higher premium to have EAP/FSD listed on my policy.

Anyone addressed this with their insurance companies?

EVRider | 21. August 2019

If you don't tell your insurance company that you purchased options after delivery, there's no reason to expect them to reimburse you, since your premium is based on the price you paid at delivery. The same is true for any other aftermarket option you add to your car.

If you want to get reimbursed for options, tell your insurance company about them, but expect to pay higher premiums.

jamilworm | 21. August 2019

I seem to recall someone saying that their insurance did reimburse them for the value of EAP or FSD purchased later on. They just needed to provide proof that it was bought. At the time tesla didnt have invoices available online so if I remember correctly that person sent a screenshot of their account page showing that the option was on the car.

KBB and Edmund's values dont really matter, the insurance needs to pay out enough for you to get an equivalent replacement. If for some reason nobody in your state was selling a similar Model 3 for less than than 40k then insurance should pay you that amount regardless of what 3rd parties think the value should be

bjrosen | 21. August 2019

I just e-mailed my Allstate agent to ask this question, I also attached a copy of the invoice for FSD so they would have it in their records. I'm assuming that they will want to bump the rate a little bit to reflect the higher replacement cost of the car. When I here back from them I'll post their response here.

skygraff | 21. August 2019

Was thinking the same thing, EVRider, but then I wondered if there might be safety based discounts which would offset the premium increase.

Be curious to hear what these two insurers say.

jokerandthief | 21. August 2019

My MetLife agent told me it would be considered an after market rider. Same goes for if I added ceramic coating or PPF.

joe | 21. August 2019

Here's what I got back from my agent:

"The Teslas are a car and being treated as all the other vehicles State Farm insures. Any added features our insured has installed/updated becomes part of the vehicle. It is the owners responsibility to keep proof of the upgrades. These things will be taken into the value consideration at the time of loss. We have no endorsements to be added. Best thing you can do is keep track and I think you are doing that already."

Well, we'll see. Makes no sense that there is no premium difference for a car valued 8k (in my case) more - at least I have this in writing. I certainly hope I never have to test it!

rxlawdude | 21. August 2019

It's better to have the other party at-fault and then you don't need to worry about your insurance's valuation. You are entitled to be made whole, and that would include the value of FSD.
With your own company, as you see from the various answers, assume they will not compensate you for the added-later feature.

kaffine | 21. August 2019

Most insurance has state mandated minimums for coverage. So while the car is worth more and they may have to pay out a bit more there actual limit that they have to provide is the same. I would still be checking with the agent just in case.

MrSandman | 27. Dezember 2019

Hello there! How did your story end? It's important for me, because right now I have a same problem. Bought an insurance from https://www.americaninsurance.com and now I'm thinking - do I need to tell those guys I have an EAP / FSD. Do insurance companies bump premium rate after you telling them about a car enchantment? I don't want to pay more for my insurance, but, to be honest, I'm a little risky driver, so if my car will be totalled some day, I will be forced to pay more for car repair. Does it worth it?

coselectric | 27. Dezember 2019

I emailed my local insurance agent to tell her when I bought FSD several months ago (still waiting on the HW3 upgrade), asked her if we need to add this and any future hardware and software upgrades to my coverage. She said she'd contact the powers-that-be at Allstate to find out. I never heard back. Pretty sure it went off their flowchart.

andy.connor.e | 27. Dezember 2019

The way i would think about this. Is if you went out and got $3000 spinner rims for your car after buying it, should that be covered?

rxlawdude | 27. Dezember 2019

@Andy, not a valid comparison. This is software enabling a hardware feature integrated with the car.

Dav3 | 27. Dezember 2019

With State Farm, it definitely would be covered.

andy.connor.e | 27. Dezember 2019

I see them both as money spent on improvements to the car. I would think it would be covered, but it will depreciate with the vehicle.

cquail | 27. Dezember 2019

I gave my insurance company a copy of the invoice so that they would know I had the FSD feature.