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Interstate 80: Folsom Supercharger to Reno

Interstate 80: Folsom Supercharger to Reno

I live in Reno, just picked up my MS at the factory this past Wednesday. I thought I would share the "driving data" with the community FWIW.
I stared by fully charging at the Folsom Supercharger. By the way, the Supercharger is exactly where the "dot" and label says it is in maps.google.com. Google Earth has it mis-located by about a hundred feet, either way, very easy to spot (you won't have to drive around in circles to find it ... :)) A one-minute walk to McDonalds, or, the other direction, one-minute walk to a nice Mexican restaurant. Lots of ways to spend your hour in the Folsom Premium Outlets.
When I pulled away from the Supercharger, there were 266 miles of rated range.
When I pulled into my driveway, in Reno, there were 88 miles of rated range.

I drove 125 actual miles, using 178 miles of rated range. The net gain in elevation is 4600 feet (rounded to the nearest hundred feet).
I tried to keep my speed right at 67 mph, a bit conservative, but not all that much.

So the "penalty" for speed and elevation is 53 rated range miles, or an average of 0.42 miles per mile, or 42%. Another way of looking at it is 12.6 miles per thousand feet.
I used 50 kWh, and averaged 401 wh/mi.

Bumper sticker message: make sure you have 200 (or more) miles of rated range when you leave Sacramento, headed for Reno, even though the actual distance is about 120 miles (depending, of course, on where you start in Sacramento).

Next week, I will do the trip in reverse, and see how much I gain going downhill.
The trip was great fun; the MS takes the I-80 curves and hills effortlessly!

GeekEV | 09. März 2013

Was that you I saw there the other night in the black MS? I had the gray one...

wheatcraft | 09. März 2013

No, mine is pearl white. I went over the pass on Friday morning.

RickT | 09. März 2013

This matches what I saw last Tuesday driving from Folsom to Truckee. The trip (with less downhill than yours) used 160 rated miles to travel 102 land miles.

My Thursday return trip (Truckee to Saratoga) should have been possible without a stop, but the 47 hours I spent in Truckee charging at 115V/12A were insufficient to fully charge the battery. Although my range deficit declined from 25 to 1 by the time I had descended to Auburn, that wasn't good enough to avoid another trip to Folsom. I really need to install a 230/50 outlet in Truckee!

Folsom is a great stop for those traveling between South Tahoe and Sacto or the Bay Area. For those of us going to Reno or North Tahoe, however, it's an extra 20-40 minutes, depending on traffic. The local roads between I80 and Folsom are awful at rush hour. And look out for the motorcycle cop stop sign trap, a major contributor to the delays!

DouglasR | 10. März 2013

The Folsom charger is also not well positioned for those traveling on I-5 between San Francisco and points north, such as Portland or Seattle. Even though it is just a few miles east of where I-5 intersects I-80 at Sacramento, Folsom would take me about 80 miles out of the way. I would not normally drive all the way to Sacramento in order to get from I-80 to I-5, but rather would take the "short cut" of I-505.

GoTeslaChicago | 10. März 2013

Wheat craft,

It looks like your actual miles are 70% of rated miles.

178/125 = 70.22

GoTeslaChicago | 10. März 2013

70.22 percent

GoTeslaChicago | 10. März 2013

Sorry, should be 125/178 = 70.22 %

GeekEV | 10. März 2013

I'd like to see a supercharger in Vacaville to make Bay Area trips more comfortable.

DouglasR | 10. März 2013

@Geek EV - Yes, Vacaville would also help those driving north on I-5 from SF to e.g. Portland.

Andre-nl | 11. März 2013

@GoTeslaChicago,

" The net gain in elevation is 4600 feet "

Such a trip is not a good example to do any datamining ;)

elevation gain * mass (car + driver) * g =
1400 m * 2230 kg * 9.8 ~ 3E7 J ~ 8.5 kWh

With 300 Wh per rated mile that is a penalty of 28 rated miles. So correcting for that:

125/(178-28) = 125 = 83.3%

Andre-nl | 11. März 2013

Oops, that last formula should simply read: 125/(178-28) = 83.3%

bigdaddymak | 15. März 2013

Totally agree with DouglasR & Geek EV. The Folsom Supercharger is ridiculously located. There is WAY more traffic on I-80 going to Reno and North Lake Tahoe than there will ever be along Hwy 50 to South Lake Tahoe and nowhere else.

We really need another Supercharger somewhere in the Vacaville to Davis region or even in West Sac along I-80. Is anyone at Tesla reading these threads???

sb | 26. Juni 2013

I want to drive from Berkeley to Zephyr Cove on Lake Tahoe (and back) in a MS60. I can easily get to the Folsom supercharger. I think I will be able to get to Zephyr Cove from there (?). Someone said the climb is 8000 feet and then 1000 back down to the Lake.

But what do I do once there? I heard of a reputed supercharger at one of the casino hotels; does anyone know about that? If so do you have to be staying there to use it?

fuellss | 26. Juni 2013

We live in Folsom and frequent Palo Alto..We will start our first trip there tomorrow on a full charge, charge at Stanford Mall before heading back. A super charger would be great in Livermore..

DeDe | 26. Juni 2013

Another vote for Vacaville!! We travel San Jose to Reno frequently and the Folsom stop is not at all convenient...even traveling from Bay Area to Sacramento does not allow for an easy "on the way" charge...

Maestrokneer | 26. Juni 2013

Davis would be MUCH better than Vacaville for us East Bay, North Bay, and San Francisco residents. Vacaville is just getting started for most of the population of the Bay Area.

Maestrokneer | 26. Juni 2013

As an added note, we took our 60kwh to Tahoe City (north/west shore) earlier this winter using the Folsom Supercharger. We made it no problem (with 60 miles to spare). Folsom really isn't THAT out of the way from 80. It's only about a 20 minute drive along Folsom/Auburn road to get back to 80. Definitely "out of the way"...but not too bad.

dortor | 27. Juni 2013

kudo's to everyone suggesting Supercharger locations - but this forum is not necessary "feedback" to Tesla - recommend you contact Tesla via Customer Service to make your suggestions.

kingkoti | 16. Juli 2013

@ Maestrokneer

We are planning a trip from Pleasanton, CA (East Bay) to Tahoe (north or south) via Falsom supercharger in our MS60, could you confirm if this is feasible ? anything specific to watch out for, Thanks in advance.

bigdaddymak | 28. November 2013

Per Tesla's phone support, Vacaville Premium Outlet Supercharger should be up and running by Mid December, 2013. Nice! Thanks Tesla!

RZitrin1 | 30. November 2013

Planning SF-Reno-SF trip next month. This thread very helpful. Thanks to all, and I'm hoping Vacaville up and running by 12-20.

mlehms | 23. April 2014

bumping thread, what is the best place/hotel to charge in reno, heading up for a weekend with the kids for a tournament

eddygorsuch | 23. April 2014

Circus Circus Reno has 4 J1772 stations in their parking garage. Except for a Volt that was charging when I arrived, I was the only car using them the whole weekend I was there (early March).

mlehms | 23. April 2014

is this self park or valet? and do they charge for it?

kWh pwr | 23. April 2014

Did the Vacaville -> Incline Village trip a few months ago in my Model S 85 - Left Vacaville at 260, arrived at Incline Village with 70 left. About 190 rated for 150 miles.

David15 | 23. April 2014

Atlantis has 2 Chargepoint chargers at the main entrance. They are always ICEd I think by valet. I've complained about this, but no change so far. Washoe county offices on 9th st has 2, J1772 chargers, NV Energy has a couple as well. And there's one at Einstein Bagels.

GeekEV | 23. April 2014

FYI, there is a new Roseville, CA supercharger under construction at the Galleria mall that looks set to open any day now. That should help too.

eddygorsuch | 26. April 2014

The Circus Circus chargers are free Chargepoint stations located on the ground floor of the garage nearest the hotel registration (self park). They have some some nasty signage about a 4 hour max charge time, but I had no problem using them overnight.