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Is it a Fisker? help me with wise comebacks

Is it a Fisker? help me with wise comebacks

This morning I was walking with a friend over to look at my car in the parking lot, and a guy walked by asking "Is it a Fisker?" I said "No, it's a Tesla, a real 100% electric car" or maybe I just said "it's a real car", anyway, I had not been up on what Fisker is other than seeing on Recargo's news that a bunch of them were burned up somewhere in NJ after Sandy flooded the parking lot. So, I went and looked up Fisker Karma, and found that:

it's not pure electric, it's a hybrid, its combined range is only 300 miles (50 miles on the electric, with a 20.1 kWh battery)
its 0-60 is 6.3s (slower even than the non-performance S)
it weighs 5300 lbs (whoa, and I thought the S was heavy at 4647 lbs)
its luggage compartment is 6.9 cubic feet (the S's frunk is 5.3, and the trunk is 26.3 with the seats UP!)

not counting that the S looks gorgeous, weighs less, has a smaller turning radius,
goes faster, farther, carries more people and cargo, built in California...

what wise comebacks should I be prepared for next time?
No doubt I think Tesla is a much better car, and I am only looking for facts and numbers if you have some to share.

Sofie S. | 08. November 2012

@MB3 and @tesla.mrspaghet

Audi A2 is even better then that! IRL between 60miles/gallon to 91miles/gallon. Oure awridge MPG the last five years are 73miles/gallon.
You picced the wrong brand perhaps!?

mrspaghetti | 08. November 2012

@Sofie

@ 73miles/gallon that's $1264 saved in gas/yr at 25k miles/yr.

Still 8 yrs to save $10k or 16 yrs to save $20k in gas.

DouglasR | 08. November 2012

@Volker,

It's "recall" not "call-back."

MB3 | 08. November 2012

I'm surprised you get better than the EPA estimated. My experience has been those numbers were exaggerated. Still, wasn't a choice for me at the time, and it looks like a small two-door, which doesn't work as well for us. Not sure the A2 was available either, but it sounds like awesome mileage.
We drive substantially more that t.m. supposed so we payback quicker than in his calc. But if that were the only consideration, the Yaris would have been better and the A2 best, although I'm not sure you could get it in the US.

mrspaghetti | 08. November 2012

@MB3

I have the 4 door sedan base, which they don't seem to make anymore.

http://www.edmunds.com/toyota/yaris/2009/?sub=sedan&ps=used

As you can see, it's rated 36 hwy, which is almost entirely where I drive since its a commuter car. And while I regularly exceed the speed limit, I rarely accelerate or brake hard so I get better miles than the EPA estimates.

Volker.Berlin | 09. November 2012

DouglasR, thanks! I should have known better but nevertheless fell into that trap of a literal translation from German.

DouglasR | 10. November 2012

Everybody knew what you meant, but I was sure you would prefer to get it right.

DrJohnm | 10. November 2012

I think that the negative comments here on the Fisker fire is a disservice to the EV industry and cannot do anything but harm to Tesla by emphasising what is news but not very good news. Toyota, Chrysler, Nissan and Honda plan to scrap 15,000 new cars damaged. It's estimated that the total number of cars that will be scrapped as 200,000. Lots of cars caught fire. Sub stations blew up, whole blocks of houses burned down. These Fiskers were (apparently) submerged under 6' (2m) of salt water.

What your also forgetting is that on average, 31 highway vehicle fires were reported per hour. These fires killed one person a day and those cars are not being submerged in salt water but just being driven.

Why give the flat earth supporters the ammunition to have a pop at this new technology.

http://www.autoweek.com/article/20121108/CARNEWS/121109851
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2011/11/chart-of-the-day-vehicle-fires-...

Brian H | 10. November 2012

"Call-back" is used, but usually to describe a repeated telephone call in telemarketing, or business.

DouglasR | 10. November 2012

Actually, call-back is what you get (if you're lucky) after interviewing for a job or auditioning for a part in a Broadway musical.

Mark K | 10. November 2012

Volker - I think most of us agree that bashing, of any sort, is worthless.

Fisker, on the other hand, provokes something else from us.

People seize upon their tribulations because of who they are.

They are posers.

They dress like a performance car, but drive like a dog.

They purport to be green, but are actually very petro-centric.

They claim to be advanced technology, but are in fact substandard engineering. So seriously deficient, in fact, that "Explodes on contact with seawater" is the result.

They wave the patriotism flag to garner government money, but build offshore.

They are not who they claim to be, and it is troubling to hear their assertions. It is troubling too when they are casually equated to Tesla. They are not the same. They are not even remotely similar.

When Romney awkardly lumped Tesla into the same sentence with Fisker, all of us cringed.

Humor fundamentally springs from irony. What I found extraordinarily ironic upon hearing of Fisker's seawater pyrotechincs episode is how roundly it laid bare the posers that they are.

TM really did the heavy lifting to make the EV revolution happen.

Fisker ... didn't.

Sudre_ | 10. November 2012

I thought they were also the ones causing many of the waves about Tesla not using dealerships because they want their dealers to be able to sell Teslas... I have no idea where I read that.

Brian H | 10. November 2012

Yes, I believe one of the lawsuits is by a Fisker dealership.
You read about it right here.

As TM's original lawsuit alleged, Fisker is a parasite. Karma's gonna be a bitch.

Tomas | 10. November 2012

Ahh.... Seriously? A Fisker? You this think this looks like a Fisker-- one if the ugliest damn cars on the road?

Brian H | 10. November 2012

Naw; this car actually goes as fast as it looks.

MB3 | 11. November 2012

No, Fisker is a hybrid; 1/2 car 1/2 bomb

Timo | 12. November 2012

No, Fisker is the hybrid with Alfred E. Neuman grin, this one is pure BEV.

Vawlkus | 13. November 2012

No it's not a Fisker; this car actually performs.

ThomasN | 13. November 2012

No this is Motor Trend's car of the year, the car you are talking about was viewed as still a work in progress.

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