For the Tesla Gen III, what 100 new features would you like to imagine or see available ?

For the Tesla Gen III, what 100 new features would you like to imagine or see available ?

Teslarians, what futuristic, hitech, game changer, ultra green, uber-cool, alto safety, mass production friendly, cost reducing, profit increasing features should Tesla's next generation, Gen III, vehicle have ? Also include Model C, S & X.

Whether large or small, simple or complex, technical or not, what are your ideas ?

To get started, here are some thoughts:

1) Put see through glass Tesla Shield  
   on hood  made of painted glass. The
   shield and letter T are left clear glass 
   and shows off the frunk by day. At 
   night a Hue light , with millions of 
   color variations can can be turn on 
   inside the frunk to light up the shield 
   and T during night driving.

2) Have detachable Household AC plug  
 battery  packs near base of seats  
 powered by solar panels on roof.

3) Anti crash system stops car from
  running into things. Qualifies for   
  insurance discount?

4) Retractable semi-opaque, tinted sun
 visors controlled by button on
 steering wheel similar to pulling down  
 a window shade electronically. It's 
 more functional because it allows the 
 driver to control visor on driver's 
 window, passenger window, and both 
 sides of the windshield. Could this be the world's best sun visor?

5) Have all wheels turn to 90 degrees,
  great for parallel parking. Have car
  capable of self parking.

6) Create @tesla/ Internet
    extension  for car related services 
    only to compliment .com sites. 

The .car extensions have voice only interface, with limited button pushing similar to a radio, no texting except through voice to text.

7) Shape the red tail lights as close
  as possible to the Tesla T Logo.
  Red led lights across bumper under
  the plate spell out Tesla Motors EV
  and highlight when brakes applied.

8) Equip Gen III with two sliding doors
  or 4 regular doors. To create
  easier access the opening door
  includes 1/3 of the roof. Also press a
  button in the door jamb to slide the
  front seats forward.

   A variation of this, have 1/3 strip of 
   roof retract toward the center of the 
   roof when you open the door.

9 ) NFD Near Field Discounts auction.
  Type in lunch etc. 5 miles distance, 
  2hrs for exa and nearby Merchants 
  continuously update bids against  
  each other on giving you    
  discounts for lunch.

10) KeyPay/CarPal digitized keychain 
      can be used to pay electronically, 
      and receits  are tagged& organized 
      into personal & business categories 
      for taxes. Syncs with smartphone 
      app and car consol to store info on the web.

11) Computerized self parking, both 
      back in and parallel .

Teslation | 23. Februar 2013


Some excellent ideas, I'd like to expand on your comment number three:
3) add kinect sensors and internal cams, with face recognition, so onboard computers, recognize drivers and
passengers. Therefore...(automatically) [sic], adjusts mirrors, seats etc.

I think this has lots of potential, since it could also be a revenue generator for Tesla. A third party could have a kit with wireless, blue tooth cams, & an app that is approved by Tesla with access to the dash screens for the 3rd party app display. Tesla would get a percent of the sale of the kit and app. By using the third party app system, any Tesla going forward can be upgraded at any time, and not slow down production.

Basically you combined two things unrelated or combined before, good creativity. And I believe the system could be expanded to other services.

How about security ? You could adjust the facial recognition system to only allow certain pre-approved people to drive the car, making it impossible to steal the car. Maybe even get an insurance discount ?

There could be lots of these third party apps. And if some of them became insanely desirable, Tesla could make it standard on some models. The other 3 rd party party apps in the Eco-system help create value for the car, similar to the smartphone apps.

Teslation | 23. Februar 2013


I'll defer to your expertise on an EV giving a battery jump to an ICE.

Next tidbit: How about a special charge cord that allows one Tesla car to charge another Tesla car ? Is that technically possible ? Someone out of charge may be able to use the Tesla car system to put out an alert or SOS to all other Teslas in the area who have that car app.

Also I can see Tow Truck Operators buying Teslas to go out and give EV charges with this cord. The rest of the time the wife can drive the Tesla.

ChristophErni | 23. Februar 2013

Three urgent wishes for Model S, that would match the image of up to date technology:
- distance control and lane assistant (as known from Mercedes Benz).
- head up display.
- motorized frunk, because now you spoil your hands and cloths when you open it after a rainy day.

And one must in this category, please:
- a functional trunk cover, e.g. as roller blind. The actual cardboard thing is sliding around and falling into the trunk when handled. Go and buy one from a German car and copy it. Thanks!

Nevertheless, the Model S is a tremendous car that makes all the gas cars look very old.

negarholger | 23. Februar 2013

the charge pot is already there to 'jump start" any EV car
- from car to car you would need a converter, either from battery DC to 240V AC or from discharge DC up-convert to charge DC. I don't think the car has all the components needed build in, so a simple cable wouldn't do, you would need a substantial ($) converter box outside.
- a tow track could either have a big 240V AC generator or a big battery pack for DC quick charging. The problem is more about the numerous standards. As far as I know AAA is already experimenting with that idea.

Teslation | 23. Februar 2013


Well at least good to hear triple AAA is working on it. That leaves prevention as the best medicine. Some kind of icon on the 17" screen for help on charging batteries on long trips, long trip planning, and cold weather tips & precautions might help.

Of course Tesla R&D might come up with something, Tesla is spending 200 million a year on R&D aren't they?

Teslation | 23. Februar 2013


I agree on Model S. I especially like the motorized or pop up frunk idea. Seems like it should be easy enough to do and add to the key functions. For some of the other ideas, too bad they can't have them in after market kits of some form.

I would think a list of all EV approved HOV lanes would prove popular. Plus have these HOV lanes approved for EVs, color coded on the maps. It's one of the nice perks of EV's that a lot of people don't know about yet.

Maybe even position some of these Super Charger stations to take advantage of these HOV's for EV's. And I like to see some journalist car testers do HOV runs in a Tesla. The time saved in traffic might more than offset Super Charger time.

SunOne | 26. Februar 2013

I just joined today, have desired an EV for decades, and will be placing my reservation for an "S" soon. My father was a mechanical engineer/international patent attorney litigator. He tinkered with designs for an EV in the 1960's using the onboard generator concept because we only had lead acid batteries then. This is similiar to the Chevrolet Volt and the Cadillac will have its EV within a year. Named the ELR, it will be more attractive and luxurious than the Volt. The complete absense of range anxiety is the big draw and it will thereby will be considerable competition to the Tesla. It is the sheer practicallity of the model.

My father's design encorporated an alcohol fueled steam turbine engine to power the generator. He said it would be cleaner, much lighter in weight, and have few moving parts. Alcohol is renewable. Alcohol does not go bad in the tank if not used for a long period of time. It is not explosive like gasoline. It can be used as a heating fuel for the cabin if desired. The small generator is only there as a backup system, and needs to have just four or five gallons of fuel onboard.

I am curious as to the concensus of the Tesla community regarding the viability of this notion, and if it is positive, whether Tesla would be the organization to bring such a revolution to the automotive arena? In addition to innovating the better battery, battery charger, and electric motor, why not a revolutionary breakthrough in the generator. Tesla has the market and motivation to make such a concept viable. My father had models of prototypes in his office made out of aluminum that weighed 10 pounds and designed put out 100 horse power. Unfortunately they were non working models; this was 50 years ago! Is this dream approachable today?

I realize that Tesla is putting considerable investment in the charging stations and an onboard generator negates some of the need for these stations. However, the generator adds cost and weight, and subtracts space from the car.

I am looking forward to hear from you.

Jon_Roland | 26. Februar 2013

A solar roof panel is not a good option because of the limited area, but what about a trailer hitch and a trailer with a fold-out solar panel that could be deployed in the field on a sunny day to recharge the car if the driver wants to venture far from any recharging stations? Might take a couple of days for a full recharge, but that is better than a tow truck.

The trailer could also carry a generator, fuel cells, windmill, or other electricity-gathering devices.

The idea would be to have a vehicle that can operate off-grid.

As I understand it, the current model does not allow for installation of a trailer hitch. Is this correct? If so, it is a needed fix.

Teslation | 26. Februar 2013


Glad to hear your finally getting your EV wish. Your dad sounds like a pretty cool idea guy. I 'm sure he's got a really good patent on his design. Alcohol is a good fuel, race car drivers use it, and it's used in a variety of ways , see link:

However your design sounds like an HEV or Hebrid Electrical Vehicle application, where the engine drives the electric motor. Unfortunately, Elon is on record as to his desire to stay with BEV concept or Batttey Electric Vehical. So anyone making hybrids, might have an interest. Don't forget other countries, Brazil is already big on alcohol, but they probably haven't electrified yet.

Willie Nelson recently had a small biofuel plant and biofuel station go bust in Carl's Corners, Tx. Although I think he was smart enough to have investors take the hit. Rumor is it was mismanaged. Maybe he's ready to make the Willie-mobile next ? Who knows it might be a million dollar idea. There may be several million dollar ideas in this thread. A professor once told me thinking up the solution is only 50% of the work, implementing it is the only 50%.

On your other comment, agree the Cadillac EV hybrid will be some new competition for Tesla, so I hope they get that supercharger think rolling fast !

Teslation | 26. Februar 2013


You know for the right platform, sitting around for a couple of days, using solar panel chargers might be the perfect solution. I can think of two right now, campers/hikers and RV owners. For the campers add a tent to the trailer. But your right, Tesla needs to get a hitch first. The energy trailer could be an option then.

Of course, some day Tesla might come out with an RV platform. And retired RV people would love free energy through solar etc. while they hang out.

Teslation | 26. Februar 2013

Getting back to the Northeastern debacle, how about a 50%-75% discount on your tolls for EV's, if you get EZ pass for your vehicle ? Would cost the states very little to promote EV's and would be great for people who have to drive toll roads.

Teslation | 26. Februar 2013

Tesla should come out with a heavy version of their platforms to increase milage between charges 75% to 100%. For exa. the Model S Heavy platform would get an EPA rated 500 miles a charge. Tesla really needs to work on this range rage anxiety induced, discombobulated conundrum, wrapped in an enigma and soaked in fear. Or what most people call long distance driving. Continuing on.

With the Gen III platform price & range, here's one possibility I see:
1) Regular Gen III platform price--$29,999 after rebates (Federal & State).
A) Range 220 miles
2) The Heavy Gen III platform price--$39,999 after rebates (Federal & State).
A) Range 440 miles

This fits nicely under the current starting prices of the current Model S. I really can't see Tesla getting their prices down to the low 20's untill they are selling over 100 thousand cars a year, which would give them lower material costs.

Teslation | 26. Februar 2013

Correction, that's hybrid, not hebrid. Sorry about that.

Teslation | 26. Februar 2013

Correction the professor quote should read:
..."thinking up the solution is only 50% of the work, implementing the solution is the OTHER 50%."

Hmmm... maybe it's time to hit the sack

Teslation | 26. Februar 2013

Darn found another correction:
" I hope they get their super charger THING rolling fast!"

This one I think was the auto correct.

Brian H | 26. Februar 2013

shortly after reserving, please return and report the reservation number (last 5 digits) you receive, and the date. We will make much hay from it; "newbie" buyers haven't been finding their way to the forums much in 2013, and every data point is precious!

caposkia | 07. März 2013

A couple ideas:
First, it would be fantastic to be able to sync the car to your mp3 player and store your music in the car to listen to at any time
Also, how about a solar powered temp control system in the car to keep it warm in the winter and cool in the summer without using any battery power when the vehicle is parked but not plugged in

Brian H | 07. März 2013

There is very little sunshine in garages.

caposkia | 07. März 2013

Typically you'd have your car plugged in in the garage. If not, you could park on the top, or if underneath, your car will stay cool in the summer anyway. They're also typically warmer than parking outside in the winter.

JrJerry | 07. März 2013

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The Tesla BlueStar is the proposed third generation electric car to be manufactured by Tesla Motors, with a production goal of 2015.[1] Tesla intends the car to have a price of around US$30,000.[2][3] Technology from Tesla's Model S line may also make its way into the BlueStar line. [4] "It would be quite similar to the Model S but scaled down."[5] Although the Model S is generally a standard looking car, the third generation vehicle will have more distinctive style. [6]

The company had plans for the BlueStar as part of its trickle-down strategy, where the battery and electric drivetrain technology would be developed and paid for through sales of the Tesla Roadster and Tesla Model S vehicles.[7][8] The BlueStar line is being co-developed with the Model X, an SUV variant of

ian | 07. März 2013

Nice find Jr. Now you're up to speed on the master plan you can enjoy the ride with the rest of us. Should be entertaining!

orthophonist | 08. März 2013

Solar City to provide photovoltaics from stem to stern.
The most basic of controls a la iPad mini.
125 mile range to start.
Smaller than a bmw 3; bigger than a bmw 1
Seating for 4.
Handling better than a porsche.
Smoothness better than a Rolls Royce.

Brian H | 08. März 2013

There's one circumstance the BFI "goose it" strategy when stuck in snow can work, and probably conditioned the drivers to try it every time: shallow snow, so you cut down to the underlying pavement, and suddenly gain traction, and launch forward. Otherwise, you're making a smooth ice trap for the tires.

Brian H | 08. März 2013

^^ wrong thread. Sorry.

TeslaWestCoast | 10. März 2013

Top 3 things I would like to see in Gen III (keeping it under 100 here, people).

1. 300-mile range (w/Supercharging capability, of course)
2. Coupe/Hardtop Convertible body style
3. Heads-Up Display (speed, navigation information)

Teslation | 13. März 2013


Nice streamlined priorities.

Like to note cold weather performance is a hot topic right now. I think Tesla can attack this with an "Artic Package of Options", similar to their Tech Package" and "Sound Package", and market this as the best performing cold weather performing All EV in the world.

So I'm imagining what things they could put in their "Artic Package" for some Gen III Models ?
1). 4WD
2). Auto rocking/manual rocking with a wheel column stick, mentioned in another thread.
3). Optional screen app to display 3 days of weather and battery charge left when parked according to the
4). Google maps that gives the option to overlay the weather onto your trip directions display.
5). Heated wipers so they can't freeze up and collect ice.

Other ideas for an Artic Package of options ?

Teslation | 13. März 2013

Some suggestions for suggestion categories. I can think of a couple of categories. One, category are suggestions that address various perceived Tesla/EV anxieties. Here's a list of 11 anxiety areas you could address with ideas:

1). Range & Charging anxiety
2). EV performance anxiety
3). Cost to purchase anxiety
4). Ability to generate mass sales anxiety
5). Slow production & associated expenses anxiety
6). Cold weather procedures anxiety
7). Bricking anxiety
8). Battery fire & general car safety anxiety
9). Pressure salesman anxiety
10) Funding new models, platforms & more production plants anxiety.
11) Quantity and speed of rollout of supercharger stations anxiety

Teslation | 13. März 2013

By the time Gen III comes out, Tesla should be the number one All EV manufacturer in the world. And the Gen III platform should help to increase that lead through their various Gen III platform models.

So another category for suggestions, are items that can create qualities that are Tesla grinning unique, best in class, & desirable. Eleven items in this category for suggestions:

1) Best in class digital displays
2) Best in class cargo space
3). Acceleration & general car performance
4). Wireless connectivity/updates & maybe dash apps
5). Superior fuel & maintenance savings
6). Fastest free EV charger, the supercharger
7). Highest ratings for safety
8). Best no hassle sales experience
9). Best in class battery range
10) Superior styling & design
11) Advanced manufacturing techniques, efficiencies & economies

These are all areas to direct ideas to.

Brian H | 13. März 2013

Even at the present, I don't think there's another "all-EV" mfr in the running. Can you think of one?

Teslation | 14. März 2013


Good clarification point. About the definition of "All Electric Vehicles", that needs to be more clear so there is no misunderstanding about my previous statement.

I'm referring to the number of "cars that are "All EV" by a particular manufacturer, not car makers that are 100% All EV manufacturers. This definition of "All EV" cars include cars made by manufacturers like Nissan (Leaf), Toyota (RAV4), Mitsubishi (I-MiEV), Honda (Fit EV), Etc. And for the most part these car makers produce cars other than "All Electric Vehicles" as well.

Soon to be introduced "All EV's" are Chevy Spark (GM), Ford (Focus), BMW (i3), etc. Sometimes these cars are also called Pure Electric Vehicles (PEV); but PEV is confused with PHEV (plugin hybrid electric vehicle).

NOT covered under this definition of "All Electric Vehicles",are hybrids like Volt (GM), the coming Cadillac ELR,...and other hybrids.

Perhaps we should come up with a Tesluthian original acronym term: AEV for "All Electric Vehicle" . Someone could maintain a list of AEV's by model, number of AEV models by company, and total AEV sales per manufacturer.

Without a doubt Tesla will be the number one AEV manufacturer in the USA in a year or two. Number one AEV manufacturer in the world may take a little longer. Perhaps keep AEV score on a country by country basis.

Anyone have any world wide AEV figures by manufacturer ? Can't find any.

Anyway Brian I hope that clears up any confusion. Needless to say that Tesla going from zero AEV's to number 1AEV producer in the USA in about a decade is quite a feat; even if it is a smaller niche market right now.

I believe it's not an accident Tesla is soaring to # 1 AEV manufacturer.
There are many reasons for this, it's quite a milestone actually, with hopefully many more to come for Tesla. But it's an accomplishment that shouldn't be overlooked, or ignored; but celebrated. Why? Because car companies are saying they are giving up on AEV's, I think the other car companies are conceding the AEV market to Tesla because they can't compete with Tesla's platform etc. And Tesla's AEV numbers should prove that shortly.

Brian H | 14. März 2013

Yes. All other AEVs will be described as, "Well, it's not a Model S, but ..." ;)

Teslation | 14. März 2013


TeslaRocks | 17. März 2013

The GenIII Bluestar should have many of the great features introduced in the model S, standard Tesla quality, at an affordable price for most people. It will stretch efficiency even if it costs in terms of convenience and practicality. If you must supercharge more often than a model S of the same year on the same trip because the battery pack has less capacity, that's okay because people who have less money to spend on a car tend to value their time a little less highly than people for whom paying a premium is no problem. If it offers a bit less space and or style than the model S because of a more aerodynamic shape, that's also fine because it might also allow for less battery capacity than will considered plenty on the model S of those days, which will result in perhaps comparable range to today's model S, but at much less cost at least in terms of batteries. Basically the Bluestar will inherit a lot from today's model S, meanwhile the model S will have moved on to introduce a lot more in terms of performance and features. Premium models are meant to be where new features and better performance are developed and brought to market. Besides, if all the cutting edge performance and features end up first or simultaneously in the economy model, then why would anyone in the right mind buy the premium model? Premium models are for those who demand newer and better, and who can afford it, so clearly a different market, but one that can pay for innovations to be introduced which will eventually benefit everyone.

I am increasingly convinced that it would make a lot of sense for Tesla to introduce a revolutionary premium pick-up truck, next. It should have incredible and legendary torque and performance, sufficient to make the monster pick-up trucks in Ford commercials look like horse buggies in comparison. The Tesla truck should literally be able to lift locomotives, or at least something similarly impressive. Maybe lift a bunch of Ford F-250's while carrying tons of cargo in the box? It should also offer tremendous convenience and practicality, in part with standard 110 volt and/or 120 volt sockets hidden under a tail light which can be used to power tools on the job where the grid isn't yet operational, essential home appliances like freezers and refrigerators during power outages, and whatever requires power while camping or at remote work sites. This would be a very simple, clean, economical, and appealing alternative to gas-electric generators. To make all this practical, and to remain in line with the truck philosophy and lifestyle, the battery pack would need to be available in augmented formats, perhaps 120 kWh or greater. Also, like in the models S and X, the pick-up allows for maximum cargo and passenger opportunity space since there is no bulky ICE-related components, so although I cannot quite imagine it, I trust that Tesla can redefine the pick-up truck in terms of what it allows people to do, perhaps with options regarding extra seating versus extra cargo space in the box. Also, maybe it could be made easier to climb into by lowering the height or offering a retractable ladder/stair at the back.

At the risk of becoming unpopular with all those people eagerly awaiting the Bluestar, I believe that the pick-up truck, since it would be another premium model meant to grab the attention and challenge the assumptions of another segment of die-hard ICE believers and EV doubters, should be introduced next and fairly soon, so before the Bluestar. This will further enhance Tesla's brand and image, not to mention the technology, which will ultimately make the Bluestar an even bigger hit when it arrives. Total mass-production of a Bluestar that uses proven technology will go a long way in lowering the cost and therefore the price of the car of the people.

TeslaRocks | 17. März 2013

A few more edits on my last post that I wish I could do:

[...] space and[/]or style [...]

[...] for less battery capacity than will [BE] considered plenty on the model S of those days[...]

[...] then why would anyone in the[ir] right mind buy the premium model?

Maybe a single Tesla pick-up should easily win at tug-o-war against a team of the meanest pick-ups the competition has to offer. It's okay if it costs over $100,000, at least a few people will have to have it if it can do all that.

Basically I finish by arguing that the truck's fame will further increase demand for the new affordable car, which will enable an even higher rate of mass-production production than previously hoped for.

TeslaWestCoast | 17. März 2013


I like the idea of an "Arctic Package" or cold-weather package, as frosty winters are something that most Americans have to face. This is not as much of an issue in Southern CA, but it would definitely be good for the brand and the proliferation of the Gen III vehicle.

Teslation | 18. März 2013


Yes I agree an "ARTIC PACKAGE" option upgrade would be good for the brand, especially in northern Europe that has a lot of the wealthier countries, but colder climates.

And for the Gen III, I would even have the "Artic Super Package", which is a double skateboard platform, to create not just 75-100% more range; but also more cold weather milage robustness.
For people living in southern California, I would have the "Heavy Platform" available also, without any of the other artic options.

So I see the Gen III, first model coming in two versions:
1) Standard model, $39k or less, 240 miles to 440 miles range whatever technology allows at the best value.
2) Premium Delux model $79K-129k with a double platform, double the miles range, 440-600+ miles or
whatever is allowable by technology. People in Europe may appreciate a smaller luxury car, a place where
narrow streets and tight spaces are common. And cannibalization of MS should not be much of a
problem since that's a larger vehicle. Therefore this Gen III Premium Delux model should all be extra sales
and help subsidize the standard model, plus a little research, while helping cash flow with higher margins.

Successive new Gen III models can strive for price points of 35k, 30k, 25k $20k.

Basically what I'm doing is going from 3 battery pack options, to 2, with a bigger milage gap. The doubling of miles will justify the premium price. Less variation and common parts help keep the price down on the standard model, while at the same time, keeping Tesla best in class and far in the lead for AEV miles per charge. A great advertising point.

Plus Tesla now has a Gen III double thick platform for other models, like a super car, pickup truck, etc. This along with the standard single skateboard platform for the mass market vehicle.

Teslation | 18. März 2013


I share your enthusiasm for the Texas Cadilliac, or pickup version of the Tesla. Gen III could make a 1/2 ton model, and the MS platform may support a 1-2 ton pickup version. You may need improved batteries or double skateboard platforms to haul the weight any distances.

Another good point, pickups have even better margins than cars, and that should help keep Tesla's interest. And I think rednecks would like it for unique features like the ones you suggested.

It should also have the ability to supercharge other Tesla AEV's and maybe some road service companies and utility corporations, etc would buy them.

TeslaRocks | 18. März 2013

I think the priority with the Gen3 is a nice little practical car, but at a very affordable price. It will not have everything the premium models have, and that is why people who can afford to may want a premium model. But downsizing, for example with a range similar to the 40 kWh model S, 0-60 acceleration closer to 10 seconds, and a size closer to a Honda Civic, could really help in keeping prices in check, which brings me to my second point.

The idea of double-thick battery packs seems popular lately, but I don't think it is interesting except in the pick-up, perhaps, and only if needed. Pick-up will need lots of power to do its job and it doesn't matter so much if it costs more as long as it can do more. It would be, after all, or should be a premium model. For all other models, I think the priority should remain increasing energy density in a single stack, which reduces costs while marginally increasing energy efficiency.

TeslaRocks | 18. März 2013

Oh, and I don't know much about pick-ups, but I have no problem with the idea that the initial, premium pick-up model should be as heavy or even more as other large pick-ups, like F-250, whatever that weighs. The reason is simple: more weight allows more traction, elementary physics. So if we want the truck to do all of what I described, it will probably be very heavy for traction and because of all those batteries for extra power, and because weight in an EV pick-up might not really affect performance unless a lot of fast driving is being done, in which case the driver should just use their model S or X. To be able of extreme performance, the pick-up will have to be very specialized, which means it will be lame in other respects, a bit like the roadster which doesn't seat many or carry much luggage. The extra battery capacity of the pick-up will help extend the range to compensate for all the extra weight.

Well I've always disliked pick-up trucks, but this Tesla pick-up, if it does even half of what I suggested, just might get me interested in becoming a cowboy, or redneck, instead of just a hill-billy.

TeslaRocks | 18. März 2013

To be clear, I am sure that the pick-up will need a brand new platform to be successful. I don't see what other model the full premium pick-up could share its platform with. Hopefully the larger margin of the truck (which will probably cost $100,000 or more) should easily absorb the costs of designing an exclusive platform--and hopefully Tesla will be used to designing new platforms by then and the cost for the design will be low in comparison to that of previous models. Okay I'm done posting for now.

Teslation | 19. März 2013


...F250, whatever that weighs.

Sorry for the confusion, when I say 1/2 ton, 1 ton, or 2 ton, I'm referring to the "weight hauling capacity" of the truck, not the weight of the truck. That's what some pickup truck bragging rights are about, how much weight you can haul. People fill the truckbed up with, dirt, gravel, fireplace logs etc.

And also need hitches to haul little flatbeds, etc for hauling stuff like equipment etc. which can be even more weight.

You could also put a 5th wheel in the truckbed, then you could hookup to an RV , (even more weight), and be right at home in an RV park while getting electrically juiced up.

Teslation | 19. März 2013

The only problem I see with a pickup truck, is the body parts will all be different, same problem with the roadster too. Initially I see in my crystal ball Tesla keeping new models similar in looks for the highest interchangeability of parts as possible for efficiency and to get the cost down overall. That's why I suggested a luxury version of the first Gen III to complement an affordable, more mass market , standard model, the parts could be as high as 90% the same, giving higher sales and higher production efficiency. These two GIII models would look similar to the MS, which looks similar to the MX.

TeslaRocks | 20. März 2013

Oh wow you clarified a long-held question mark of mine, Tesluthian. I always wondered how come a pick-up could weight 1/2 ton when the car I drove weighed over 1 ton. Thanks for the correction!

Parts and production is one headache us dreamers on these boards don't give much thought, too, perhaps, but you have a point on that too. Not sure what the best or easiest solution is, but I have faith in Tesla management.

TeslaRocks | 20. März 2013

[...] thought to, perhaps [...]

Teslation | 20. März 2013


Glad to help out. Use to have a Ford Ranger, only a half-ton though so not much bragging rights.

TeslaRocks | 21. März 2013

Tesla Pick-up should be many tons, then that will mean more traction to tow the impossible. Retractable stud tires could another solution for dirt, as long as people can use them on pavement or cement. With an ICE truck, mass is a problem as the energy is all wasted when decelerating. EV should fix that and prove pick-up can be almost in the same league of efficiency as most other vehicles. Or closer... I'm still not a true truck people, but I'd get excited by a Tesla truck and start looking for rocks to carry and logs to tow.

joelbryan | 23. März 2013

regenerate electricity at all times even when not breaking

Teslation | 23. März 2013


The more weight a GenIII pickup has the better the traction in mud & snow from the weight pushing down on the tires. Also if this G3 could outweigh a bigger truck, then it could out pull it, literally drag it backwards. So why not a double thick skateboard on the G3 P/up? This gives you the extra range, power and pull. And usinesses could buy them & write off some of the cost as a business expense.

Next lets do the wheels, wide 30"+ front wheels and wide 35"+ rear wheels to climb obstacles and smooth out bumps. Next add a little more weight, put in 4 big in-wheel motors for all wheel drive. Next chain it back to back with a Ford 350 and let's see it it can drag it backwards. Ditto with a Tundra, for a Ford Ranger, maybe it could drag two of those backwards, and up a hill. That would make quite a statement for AEV G3 pickup trucks.

Teslation | 23. März 2013

I gues we need a new acronym: AET for "All Electric Truck".

Teslation | 23. März 2013

The double thick G3 skateboard platform for the Tesla AET will have other uses for other models to complete other objectives & Goals.

Tesla should have a goal of always having a vehicle in its various classes/models that has twice the range of its nearest competitor. Best in class electric range is Tesla's bread & butter and they need to protect that status. A double stack skateboard allows that since no matter what the battery chemistries evolve to, Tesla will always have a model with much more battery volume that can incorporate the latest battery chemistries.

Another goal for Tesla, get a 500 mile per charge AEV out, when possible, just for bragging rights, prestige and excitement it would create. Even if it cost $200k, so be it. Seems to me a Gen3 MR-500 double stack Roadster sports car would be perfect for this mission.