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Accident Model 3 - Need to get EDR report

Accident Model 3 - Need to get EDR report

My model 3 was involved in a relatively serious accident (I'm fine. Crumple zones worked). I'm not 100% sure that the emergency/automatic braking worked correctly, and I have other questions. I want to get the EDR report. I don't want to pay $1,000 for cables and figure out how to do this myself. I'd like to pay for a service who would just do this for me. I'm in the SF Bay Area (Peninsula zone). Thanks for any advice or suggestions.

apodbdrs | 18. Dezember 2019

If you didn't download video, contact Tesla, they retain video for 72 hours. I read that somewhere.

donharvey2323 | 18. Dezember 2019

EDR report? What is that?

TeslaTap.com | 18. Dezember 2019

@ken - Glad the car protected you and you're fine.

I've never heard of Tesla providing EDR or any data to owners, nor have I heard of anyone providing such a service. There are logs deep within the car, but it is very difficult to get to them, usually requires removing the MCU after pulling the dashboard apart. It then requires hardware modifications and the ability to root the MCU. Once you get the logs, they are not in any English readable format. Lots of proprietary codes. Perhaps someone else can respond with more ideas, but I'm not hopeful.

You might also review all the warnings and exceptions in the manual to see if they apply in your situation as there are a lot of limitations on these systems. They are far from foolproof - more of an aid that can work in some situations, but not all.

@apodbdrs - That was an old rumor. As far as I know, Tesla does not have any video to provide owners. It was a cool idea, but the amount of bandwidth and storage would be massive, along with massive costs to Tesla. It would also be a privacy nightmare. It is best to use the dashcam feature in the car or have your own dashcam.

WEST TEX EV | 18. Dezember 2019

Agree use Dashcam 100%. (Requires setting up as HABIT prior to incident)

SUGGESTION TO TESLA: track and immediately upload telemetry / event data recorder (EDR) data. AutoSave Dashcam footage. Remind driver to REMOVE DASHCAM drive and “place in a safe location” (in case car impounded or catastrophically damaged / fire etc)

WEST TEX EV | 18. Dezember 2019

“Crash detection”

ODWms | 19. Dezember 2019

It’d be nice if at some point Tesla would provide the ability for the car to auto-save footage upon any impact. I can understand a lot of folks not having the presence of mind to remember whether to press, press and hold, or even to do anything in such a circumstance. Some might even be unconscious.

Pg3ibew | 19. Dezember 2019

I am assuning you are talking about some sort of Black Box Type of technogy. Do Tesla vehicles come with that? Do any cars come with that? How accessible would it be? I would have to agree with @teslatapp and say that it would not be easy for the common guy to acces

h2ev | 19. Dezember 2019

@Pg3ibew, I remember a story where a Prius owner faked an accident, claiming the car would not stop. Toyota was able to grab whatever data in the car and proved it was faked. So black box in a car has been around for years, and you can bet Tesla's will be far more advanced and records gobs and gobs of data of all sorts.

I'm guessing the OP wants to place blame on the emergency braking system having failed to prevent the accident? I imagine it'll require some serious hackery to anyone outside of Tesla to see this data..

Pg3ibew | 19. Dezember 2019

@h2ev. Thanks for the insight.
Your story about the Prius is interesting.

derotam | 19. Dezember 2019

@ken: so I am curious...can you describe the accident vs what you thought emergency braking should have done? I am just curious to see how you believe the emergency braking system works.

I don't know of any services to get what you want.

ron | 19. Dezember 2019

Try calling Crash Data Group. https://edr.tesla.com/help

kevin | 19. Dezember 2019

"Tesla provides a free online service at https://edr.tesla.comwhere users can generate reports from retrieved EDR data files. After creating a MyTesla account, the user may upload EDR data files from their computer and generate reports in a PDF format. These reports contain important information regarding data polarity, application limitations, and other data limitations that should be reviewed carefully by the user in the context of the facts of a given event."

Syed.Hosain | 19. Dezember 2019

@Pg3ibew "I am assuning you are talking about some sort of Black Box Type of technogy. Do Tesla vehicles come with that? Do any cars come with that? How accessible would it be? I would have to agree with @teslatapp and say that it would not be easy for the common guy to acces"

Almost all modern cars *today* have Event Data Recorders. However, whether they can be accessed by the owner or require special software to get to it, is not something that I know about.

See https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2019/02/08/2019-01651/federal-....

This describes that NHTSA decided not to make it a mandate earlier this year (originally was proposed by in 2001), since the car manufacturers were doing it anyway.

Syed.Hosain | 19. Dezember 2019

This site seems to have some interesting info: https://www.crashdatagroup.com/learn-more/

Pg3ibew | 19. Dezember 2019

Thanks to all of you, I learned a lot today!

Syed.Hosain | 19. Dezember 2019

@kevin "Tesla provides a free online service at https://edr.tesla.comwhere users can generate reports from ..."

Unfortunately, that link appears to be non-functional.

Syed.Hosain | 19. Dezember 2019

Ah! The "where" was accidentally included in that earlier post.

Here is the corrected link: https://edr.tesla.com/

You can get cables and software, get reports, etc.

Syed.Hosain | 19. Dezember 2019

The summary PDF report sample is an interesting read indeed! Lots of stuff gets recorded.

https://www.crashdatagroup.com/pdf/SampleModel3-Report.pdf

jrweiss98020 | 19. Dezember 2019

$1200 for the cables?!? Sounds a bit ridiculous!