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The giant and shameless Trump-Derangement Conspiracy (TDC) led by the HRC Cartel has been unmasked

The giant and shameless Trump-Derangement Conspiracy (TDC) led by the HRC Cartel has been unmasked

The bloated anti-American bureaucracy of the Deep State is finally careening into the Washington Swamp it helped create, dragged by the criminal actions of the HRC Cartel and their FBI moles.

As these TDC gangs attempted to change the results of the 2016 Presidential Elections, by stealth, fake news, manufactured evidence, press disinformation campaigns, and lying under oath or before a major court of the land (the FISA Court), they have been unmasked as the treasonous conspirators they are.

Rather than direct you to the press, I hope to encourage you to read the pertinent LAW:

https://intelligence.house.gov/fisa-702/

RedShift | 02. Februar 2018

Cherry picked and misleading reports affect the weak minded. And you are particularly weak minded, judging by your post history.

Remnant | 02. Februar 2018

@RedShift (February 2, 2018)

<< Cherry picked and misleading reports affect the weak minded. And you are particularly weak minded, judging by your post history. >>

Unfortunately, it is as easy for me to call you weak minded.

Do you think mindful means name-calling?

SCCRENDO | 02. Februar 2018

Hey Brain Remnant. Get out of your Fauxnews shithole and get some factual information from legitimate news sources. Trump is guilty as hell of many crimes. This is all a pathetic diversion only believed by those whose brains have mostly atrophied.

The only questions arewhether the Republican congress has developed a spine and are willing to impeach him or do we have to wait until the Dens take over the house. The other thing that needs to be tested and is otherwise unknown is whether Mueller can indict a sitting president and if so will he be able to pardon himself.

Remnant | 02. Februar 2018

@SCCRENDO (February 2, 2018)

<< Trump is guilty as hell of .. [fill in your preferred delusion] ... >>

You're losing it, SaSoT ... !

RedShift | 03. Februar 2018

@remnant

The moment you were conjuring up meanings for the word ‘covfefe’, you’d proved how intelligent you are.

Remnant | 03. Februar 2018

@RedShift (February 3, 2018)

<< @remnant ... The moment you were conjuring up meanings for the word ‘covfefe’, you’d proved how intelligent you are. >>

Careful, SaSoT, you're in no position to show intelligence, without actually having some.

The Kabuki theater of the Deep State plus HRC Cartel posturing has survived the limits of decency and should fold now..

SO | 03. Februar 2018

Putin has got to be laughing his butt off. Between Trump becoming president, discrediting our own intelligence agencies, brexit occurring and the US treatment of the UN, this couldn’t be going any better for Putin.

Just a few years ago, the republicans would have never thought to try and discredit the intelligence agencies. Any concern would have been handled behind close doors.

bucfan11 | 03. Februar 2018

@Remnant. Be patient. Let the left keep screaming it only shows the rest of the world how disconnected they are. It was only a few days ago they were in a panic about releasing secrets, now they say the memo is a dud. It goes all the way back to the first days of the Presidency. The President tweets he was wiretapped and their heads exploded...we now know who was correct. This is just getting started, as more and more corruption is exposed, the left will continue to try to make excuses for it but facts are facts. Let them keep looking for Russians, it seems they are finding them but just not where they thought they were.

bucfan11 | 03. Februar 2018

The left is now concerned about law enforcement...HILLARIOUS!

RedShift | 03. Februar 2018

@remnant

More vulgar names you call, more you reveal your upbringing. Reflexive, tribal support from your cronies not withstanding.

Should_I | 03. Februar 2018

Those of you claiming Putin wanted Trump elected , why did he allow his minions to work with Hillary minions to draw up the dossier that was the basis for the warrants that found nothing?

RedShift | 03. Februar 2018

Dossier started out Republican. Explain that first. Opposition research is why it ended up where it did.

Is that a problem?

Central question is this - what’s the stuff Trump is hiding that he is SO scared of? What is it? Why hasn’t he appointed an independednt panel if he has nothing to fear?

He is behaving like he has something really bad to hide. We need to find out what it is.

bucfan11 | 03. Februar 2018

@RedShift - Republicans hired Fusion for op research. They had nothing to do with the fake dossier that was paid for by the DNC long after the Repubs had stopped financing the "research". Trump is allowing the Russian collusion...oops, obstruction investigation to continue. I'm not sure what you are complaining about. I do believe there is another investigation coming. You need to open your eyes and quit seeing what you want to see.

sabbia | 03. Februar 2018

Should_I, Bucfan and probably others are correct. After all, Trump said today that the 4 page memo total "vindicates" him. "This memo totally vindicates 'Trump'", Trump tweeted.

There you have it. Dispositive.

RedShift | 03. Februar 2018

Don’t throw around the word ‘fake’ willy - nilly. Just because you don’t like something doesn’t make it fake.

bucfan11 | 03. Februar 2018

@RedShift - So it is guilty until proven innocent? How do you prove a negative? It has been almost 2 years for the dossier, it would have leaked if there was any truth discovered. Just because you like something does not make it true. I say turn the lights on, let the sunshine in. We should know about everything that happened in the last election but for some reason, the Democrats want us in the dark.

RedShift | 03. Februar 2018

I'm saying don't say it's fake. That's not the same thing as saying guilty until proven innocent.

Though the attempts to obstruct so forcefully does make one wonder WHY. WHAT is he trying to hide that's so bad.

An independent investigation could have been started to put aside all the questions. But no. Instead, try to obstruct and discredit an investigation? Why? What is he afraid of?

RedShift | 03. Februar 2018

And to say 'democrats want us in the dark' makes absolutely no sense. This is an FBI investigation ring conducted by people who are Republican!

sabbia | 03. Februar 2018

I repeat. Trump said he's vindicated.

cfarleyaz | 03. Februar 2018

Here for the comments. But seriously, this should all all be deleted.

In the meantime, P85+ or wait out for M3? Want to put my solar to use some more.

J.T. | 03. Februar 2018

@SCCRENDO >>>>> Trump is guilty as hell of many crimes.

When are you going to stop saying this? He has not been tried and convicted of any crimes. You do no service to your cause with inaccurate proclamations.

SO | 03. Februar 2018

@should_i - what do you think Putin wants for America?

sabbia | 03. Februar 2018

Bucfan, Should_I. You should see what John McCain (a Republican and a patriot who didn't have bone spurs) has to say about your Trump Derangement Syndrome).

carlk | 03. Februar 2018

Whether anyone is guilty or not will have to go through the due process. However any attempt to circuvent the due process, which is the sole purpose of this memo, is nothing but obstruction of justice.

carlk | 03. Februar 2018

SO Putin does not care whether Trump is the president or whoever is going to the prison. He justs want a weaker American. With the congress's assitance he's already successded no mater what the outcome of the investigation turns out to be.

SO | 03. Februar 2018

@carlk. - exactly. Putin only wants a weaker US. With the US discrediting our own intelligence agency and our own election process, this plays right into that goal.

TeslaTap.com | 03. Februar 2018

Putin does seem to be winning! Look at all he's accomplished in the last year...
- Taxes going up for most Americans
- Massive new deficits
- Elimination or weakening of trade agreements
- Prevention of the smart, hard working people from staying in the country
- Killing off children with increased pollution from Coal
- Massive oil spills in our future with new offshore drilling on the West coast
- Decimating green industries with new tariffs
- Making the US the laughing stock of the world
- Politicians completely losing their moral compass
- Created the most divisive politics since the Civil war
- The discrediting of real news

All this and more for a few $100K in social media purchases and some well placed easily manipulated people. Hopefully we can turn it around, but the destruction is far and wide.

RedShift | 03. Februar 2018

@teslatap

But what does any of this matter. When one is in it ‘to win at all c osts, let the principles be damned’, everything is fair. Sleeping with a porn star as you wife takes care of a new born, (‘mulligan’), being a Russian stooge (‘HRD has done much worse’), siding with racists (‘you bring race into this discussion, because _you_ are the real racist’), denying AGW (‘it’s a liberal/Chinese conspiracy/hoax)

None of it matters. You have to win. At any cost.

That cost seems to be pretty high. When it’s all over, it might still be a pyrrhic victory anyway.

SCCRENDO | 03. Februar 2018

So what is the story that Nunes is trying to spin. The FBI was watching Papaopolous after he opened his mouth in front of an Australian diplomat. Nunes is flipping out that a FISA warrant was obtained against Carter Page based on the Steele dossier. Nobody even knows whether this was the only evidence used to obtain the warrant. How the warrant was obtained is confidential. But even if this was the only evidence what does this have to do with the Mueller investigation. Nunes is purely trying to cause a distraction and a pretext to fire Trump appointed Wray and Rootstein, both Republicans. Looks like the Mueller investigation has enough to bring Trump and family down. Will the Nunes/Ryan have the guts to impeach Trump. I doubt it

johnse | 04. Februar 2018

The FISA warrant was renewed three times. This requires them to show the court that they have been producing valid intel from the prior 90 days. That last paragraph of the memo completely undermines the premise that the dossier was the reason for the investigation. Not only did Papadopolis trigger investigation, Page was already on FBI radar.

Court was aware of the funding and opposition research genesis of dossier. That’s just one of the outright lies in the memo. It is also highly likely that wpthe Whitehouse collaborated on drafting the memo.

J.T. | 04. Februar 2018

@TT>>>>- Making the US the laughing stock of the world
- Politicians completely losing their moral compass
- Created the most divisive politics since the Civil war
- The discrediting of real news

I wish these things had only happened in the last year; the country would be in far better shape than it is.

Carter did a good job of making America a laughing stock as did Nixon and Watergate.
Politicians since Hamilton have had a hard time with morality. Remember Gary Hart and Monkey Business. Ted Kennedy and Chappaquiddick. Bill and a host of indiscretions topping it off with Monica. Newt, Eisenhower, JFK and RFK, Wilbur Mills, Larry Craig and many others.
The divisive politics started quite a while ago during the W era. Obama, Reid and Pelosi did nothing to diminish it and McConnell just liked pouring gasoline over it. I've said it many times that McConnell's call to make Obama a one term president was almost treasonous. And Garland should have gotten a vote. I can't for sure say that Trump has made it worse because I don't think it could get any worse than it was during the Obama administration.
As fo the news, there is such a rush to publish that getting it right falls far behind getting it first. I've always been amused that you can have 4 or 5 incredibly educated people reporting on a story and none of them can agree on what happened or what it means. So which one has the emmes? Listen to Van Jones talk about a story and then listen to Krauthammer discuss the same story. Both of these guys are brilliant but their perceptions of the truth are skewed by their politics. I could never tell what side of a story Cronkite, Jim Lehrer, David Brinkley, Ted Koppel or Harry Reasoner was on.

So, yes things have gotten worse in some areas because of Trump and his incredible record of never missing an opportunity to miss an oppotunity to do the right thing, but lots of crap has been going on before he got there.

Remnant | 04. Februar 2018

@johnse (February 4, 2018)

<< That last paragraph of the memo completely undermines the premise that the dossier was the reason for the investigation. >>

You are conflating the Steele dossier and the Carter Page FISA applications based on it with Strzok's 2016 investigation of Carter Page. There is no legitimate reason to do so.

That last (5th) Memo paragraph mentions Papadopulous only in order to emphasize that, "there is no evidence of any cooperation or conspiracy between Page and Papadopoulos."

SCCRENDO | 04. Februar 2018

The rules of the game have changed. Journalists were meant to be neutral, However Trump, Fauxnews and Breitbart have completely subverted truth and the rule of law. This has prevented the rest of the journalists form following the high road. Journalists are now longer neutral. As someone noted. You cannot call us a “banana republic”. That would be an insult to banana republics.

SCCRENDO | 04. Februar 2018

The rules of the game have changed. Journalists were meant to be neutral, However Trump, Fauxnews and Breitbart have completely subverted truth and the rule of law. This has prevented the rest of the journalists form following the high road. Journalists are now longer neutral. As someone noted. You cannot call us a “banana republic”. That would be an insult to banana republics.

SO | 04. Februar 2018

@SCCRENDO - sadly even CNN has reduced their standards. There are enough facts to report on. I wish CNN would take the bias out. Fox News is beyond help. Fortunately they do have Shepard Smith and Chris Wallace to help balance out the Wackos on that channel.

@JT - as bad as the other presidents have made the US look at times, there is absolutely no comparison to today.

J.T. | 04. Februar 2018

@SCCRENDO The rules of the "jouralist" game changed with Woodward and Bernstein. All of a sudden reporters realized they could be superstars with the right story. Then there was the explosion of cable news. If you wanted to keep your job you had to have an angle on the story no one else had. Not hard to do with 3 networks and 4 major newspapers, but with 150 cable channels you have to come up with something fresh every day or you're gone. All of a sudden this is a headline: RECENT CUTS IN THE NEW BUDGET MIGHT SPELL THE END OF MEDICAID!!

Now is that really a story? Sure, it might spell the end of Medicaid, but that means it might not. But, it's damn effective click bait if you're on medicaid.

psusi | 04. Februar 2018

You really need to put down the crack pipe there buddy. You don't get federal indictments and guilty pleas with partisan hackery. That gets you a "memo" from a nut who has already been caught licking Trump's boots and coordinating with him to make shit up. Maybe Trump isn't guilty, and even if he is, maybe enough proof won't be found to convict him, but the wheels of justice turn, and it is now Republican's who are attempting to obstruct it.

It's watergate all over again. It may not be the actual crime that brings him down, but the cover-up will. Either that or all rule of law is lost and the US becomes a dictatorship.

bucfan11 | 04. Februar 2018

@psusi - Trump will be the first dictator in history that has encouraged the people to arm themselves. When this is over I strongly suspect the people in jail will be Democrats. Obama should end up there too but I know that will not happen. Weaponizing the IRS and the justice dept against ones political opponent should never happen. Next time it could be you. The rats are starting to jump overboard, it's just a matter of time now.

Remnant | 05. Februar 2018

@psusi (February 4, 2018)

<< Maybe Trump isn't guilty, and even if he is, maybe enough proof won't be found to convict him, but the wheels of justice turn, It's [Watergate] all over again. ... It may not be the actual crime that brings him down, but the cover-up will. Either that or all rule of law is lost and the US becomes a dictatorship. >>

You're blinded by hatred and eminently ignorant. There are no grounds to investigate or indict Trump of anything, hence the criminal predicate required to appoint a Special Counsel is missing.

During the Rep-Dem exchanges of opinions on the Federal Budget – and in response to POTUS' call to spend more on our Armed Forces – Nancy Pelosi voiced her quasi-idea that any increase of the military budget should be accompanied by a proportional increase of the domestic budget.

The vernacular would call this a ratchet and it describes the financial device by which our national budget and so-called sovereign (yet enslaving) debt have ballooned to the current size and beyond. Pelosi is not just stupid and uneducated at her own expense and risk; she also epitomizes the general educational and reasoning level of the entitlement recipients and promoters of this country whom she indeed represents. In other words, she's a Sanctimonious Socialist Turd, or SaSoT.

It is only logical for her and them to feel threatened by and hate the Donald and his Americana reforms and policies. The Trump-Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is the natural psychotic outgrowth of this hate, and you're a good example of it, but my guess is that you don't have either the intelligence or the integrity to make the pertinent amends.

Wherefore, we should support President Trump and slam the treasonous Pelosi and her supporters, perhaps including yourself.

SCCRENDO | 05. Februar 2018

@Remnant. There are more grounds to investigate Trump than there ever were to investigate Hillary. If Trump is innocent why all the protests from him, the brown nose Republicans and indeed people like you and Bucfan, Let justice take it’s course? And we can find out how innocent he is. Of course you guys all fear an investigation and are striving hard to shut it down. Perhaps you all fear the results???

Silver2K | 05. Februar 2018

J.T. | February 3, 2018
@SCCRENDO >>>>> Trump is guilty as hell of many crimes.

When are you going to stop saying this? He has not been tried and convicted of any crimes. You do no service to your cause with inaccurate proclamations.
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O.J is innocent too right?

Our system is not perfect, but we can sometimes think on our own and realize the facts speak for themselves.

Nexxus | 05. Februar 2018

What are you guys on about? I read that 4 page memo and each sheet had one word on it, in bold text:

A MORON GOVERNING AMERICA!

What else is there to know?

Remnant | 05. Februar 2018

@SCCRENDO (February 5, 2018)

<< Let justice take [its] course? And we can find out how innocent he is. >>

Searching for possible crimes without probable cause ("criminal predicate") is not "justice", but "witch hunt".

In a free country, without a criminal predicate, innocence is presumed. No one is required to prove anyone's innocence, aside from the logical impossibility of proving a negative.

finman100 | 05. Februar 2018

ITMFA. and to donald himself, FOAD.

sabbia | 05. Februar 2018

"No grounds to investigate Trump."

"Meetings with Russians was about adoptions."

MAGA. Manafort And Gates Arrested.

MitchP85D | 05. Februar 2018

Ronald Reagan cut taxes. The SaSoTs went bizerk over that and tried everything they could to kick Reagan out of office. They failed. Same thing is going on with Trump. Trump cut taxes and all of you SaSoTs are throwing a big conniption fit over it. Trump is opposed to the authoritarian direction you SaSoTs want to take America, So, you will lie, cheat, steal, and spy to get Trump kicked out of office! That will also fail.

SCCRENDO | 05. Februar 2018

@Remnant. Looks like there is enough probable cause. Have you forgotten the Manafort and Gates indictments and the Flynn and Papadopolous plea bargains? I guess you have.

Remnant | 05. Februar 2018

@SCCRENDO (February 5, 2018)

<< Looks like there is enough probable cause. Have you forgotten the Manafort and Gates indictments and the Flynn and Papadopolous plea bargains? >>

Those cases contain no incriminating evidence for Trump or his electoral campaign regarding Russian contacts or collusion.

Furthermore, any possible or needed info Mueller might seek from Trump must be proven not to be available elsewhere to deserve POTUS' answer.

SCCRENDO | 05. Februar 2018

@Remnant. Have you thought about why Papadopoulos and Flynn have received plea bargains. Sounds like they must be after bigger fish than Flynn. Otherwise they would have just indicted Flynn. Many of us think that he may have something on a higher up. It may not be Trump. But it could be his son or son-in-law. Just saying. Even if they are all innocent little lambs many would think it is worth a look. No need to try vigorously shut down the inquiry. Look at the hoopla created by Hillary using the wrong email server. Flynn wanted to lock up without a trial. I guess some would call this karma. In case you forget here is a little reminder
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/feb/14/michael-flynn-rnc-...

SCCRENDO | 05. Februar 2018

@Remnant. Do you think Bill Clinton getting a "blow-job" was worthy of an inquiry???

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