Model 3

0-60 MPH ??

edited November -1 in Model 3
Configure page currently states 0-60 in 5.1 seconds for LR battery. Though reported to be faster. Any guesses or reliable(?) rumors what official ratings will be for AWD and Performance options?
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  • edited November -1
    It’s anyone’a guess at this point. I would expect the AWD to be fairly close - maybe 4.8s and performance to be probably around a second faster. That said, ask 10 people and you’ll get 10 different answers.
  • edited November -1
    I started with an S85 in 2013 that had a 0-60 of 5.4 seconds, and then traded in for S85D with 0-60 of 4.2 seconds. The 0-60 times for the S85D have been timed under 4 seconds. Our LR RWD M3 gets 0-60 under 5 seconds and has been timed at 4.68 seconds, and I would guess that the AWD version M3 will be substantially faster than that given the history noted for our MS's. I have found a huge difference in our S85D as compared to our S85. I would bet that the AWD M3 will be close to 4 seconds.
  • JADJAD
    edited May 2018
    My guess is closer to 4 seconds for AWD and close to 3 for performance.
  • edited November -1
    @Tesla-David: I don't think you can use Model S stats to predict Model 3 performance. Bear in mind that the uncorked RWD S75 had about the same 0-60 time as the S75D (4.3 vs. 4.2 seconds). Some people have also said here that the Model 3 is slower off the line than Model S.

    We won't really know until Tesla publishes the specs. Hopefully they'll do that when they start taking orders for AWD next week.
  • edited May 2018
    Motor Trend tested the Model 3 carefully:
    http://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-model-3-2018-car-of-the-year-finalist/

    TEST DATA 2017 Model 3 Long Range battery
    ACCELERATION TO MPH
    0-30 2.1 sec
    0-40 2.9
    0-50 3.7
    0-60 4.8
    0-70 6.1
    0-80 7.7
    0-90 9.6
    0-100 12.0
    PASSING, 45-65 MPH 2.1
    QUARTER MILE 13.4 sec @ 104.9 mph
    BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 119 ft
    LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.87 g (avg)
    MT FIGURE EIGHT 25.7 sec @ 0.74 g (avg)

    Interestingly, compared to my 2014 Model S 85 (RWD, not performance), the Model 3 is actually faster off the line (0-30, 0-40, 0-50, and 0-60) but slower at passing speeds (45-65, 0-70, 1/4 mile, etc.):
    http://www.motortrend.com/news/2013-motor-trend-car-of-the-year-tesla-model-s/

    TEST DATA 2013 Model S 85 and P85
    ACCELERATION TO MPH
    0-30 2.3; 1.7 sec
    0-40 3.1; 2.4
    0-50 4.0; 3.1
    0-60 5.0; 4.0
    0-70 6.1; 5.0
    0-80 7.4; 6.3
    0-90 8.9; 7.7
    0-100 10.8; 9.5
    PASSING, 45-65 MPH 1.9; 1.7
    QUARTER MILE 13.2 sec @ 110.9 mph; 12.4 sec @ 112.5 mph
    BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 124; 113 ft
    LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.87; 0.89 g (avg)
    MT FIGURE EIGHT 25.7 sec @ 0.76 g (avg); 25.6 sec @ 0.77 g (avg)
  • edited May 2018
    The last thread in the acceleration mentioned, the Model 3 is limited by *software* till 40 mph. The standard "cheapo" tires they are using in current production will be shredded if full torque of the motor is fed to them.

    I smell a "performance option" paired with a tire upgrade and a software update for about $5000 to reclaim the "fastest accelerating production vehicle" crown.

    The SR will have less heavy battery, that might beat the LR in these tests. Given the same motor power and torque and less mass, SR might out perform LR.
  • JADJAD
    edited May 2018
    No, SR won't have enough power in the pack, just like with the S, bigger battery equals faster car.
  • edited November -1
    I just love me some speculation... in the end, it just makes everybody mad that they didn't get what they thought they should have.
  • edited May 2018
    It would be stupid of Tesla to have model 3 get too close to model S in terms of performance. AWD might shave off a tenth, P might take off 0.5-1.1 seconds. Sub-4 doesn’t make sense from a marketing point of view.
  • edited November -1
    @AJPHL: That's not how Elon thinks. He would make a really quick Model 3 just to make ICE cars look bad, and plenty of people would be willing to buy one. Model S will do just fine regardless of what Model 3 does.
  • edited May 2018
    Then I hope they update my LR to do 0 to 60 in less than 4 seconds!
  • edited May 2018
    Ya, my M3 is already shredding tires from the torque. Rubber accum fast on fender with white paint. Feeling better we didnt wait for the awd. We needed a car more than a dragster. And snow has never been a problem for this Canadian in Az. Plus, I dont like torque affecting steering. Never did. Thanks a bunch 4 the specs.and comparisons.
  • edited May 2018
    I’m with EVRider on this one. Short burn of the century comin soon.
  • edited May 2018
    I'm going from w trucks and an Aveo5, I'm sure I'll be impresssd. Red vin and phone call 5/11 car not released from factory yet. :0
  • edited May 2018
    2 trucks lol
  • edited May 2018
    My opinion is 4 seconds for AWD, and 3 for performance. I don't think P is gonna have the same premium as it does on the S, because I don't think they're going to have to make the significant electrical changes that they did for model S P.
  • edited May 2018
    The ICE cars charge just 3 or 4 K for AWD over FWD. They need to run a shaft to the rear, add a center differential, redesign the floor for the propellor shaft. There was one crazy Volvo that used an inline V6, transmission behind the engine and ran the front wheel drive shaft through the center of the engine crankshaft! Subarus have a center transfer case behind the transmission and two shafts one for the front and one for the rear. All this complexity and they sell for just 4K more.

    Electric AWD is simplicity itself. Two motors, electrically linked. Costwise it would probably add 1K max. But it is a good profit center and it will be sold at whatever the market will bear. And without any competition on the horizon it will bear a lot.
  • edited May 2018
    I am not sure I recall the volvo engine correctly. What I said seems impossible to be correct. What am I misremembering?
  • edited May 2018
    Bump
  • edited May 2018
    M3-P75D- 3.1 0-60
    M3-P75DL- 2.7 0-60
  • edited May 2018
    @ST70: down 2 whole seconds from now?? Not that fast. Or can it?
  • edited May 2018
    john just put it in range mode. No more rubber burn out. If you can't control yourself let the car control that problem.
  • edited May 2018
    As for times... S had one big motor and 1 small motor. Model 3 has 2 same sized motors and magnetic. So our speculation will only be a guess as this hasn't been done b4
  • edited May 2018
    I forgot the base model:

    MS-75D- 4.6 0-60
  • edited May 2018
    doh!... s/MS/M3
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