Climate deniers lose bets against Scientists. Taking Candy from a baby.



  • Thanks for sharing
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    Why don’t you just make a bet with the subject of this thread and leave us be? :-D

    It’s just so tiring to the same old junk from you all the time.
  • edited November -1
    The above post was for Mitch. His posts have a way of vanishing away. ;-)
  • edited November -1
    If I meet you, ever, I will show you how wrong you are in your opinion of this ‘wuss’.

    You don’t have much time left on this earth, you old fart. Grow up. It’s embarrassing how you conservatives behave.
  • edited November -1
    I think this guy might be more than just conservative.
  • edited July 2019
    On mental level I’ll be the Steph Curry to your junior league basketball. I have no doubt, given the extensive 5+ years of chatting with you here. :-D

    Forget it old man. You are just fighting with the wind. There is no point. Grow up, give it up, live your life peacefully.

    I was kidding when I said I should meet you and set you straight. See, here whenever I’ve tried to reason with you last 5 years, it’s always been futile. I know not to try the same thing over and over, coz, it’s the definition of insanity.

    Do you know that, Mitch? :-)
  • edited July 2019
    Losing Reflective Sea Ice in the Arctic will advance Global Warming by 25 YEARS.
  • edited July 2019
    @MitchP85D Please provide facts supporting your claim that Ice is on the increase. Looking at site: we can see that comparing today to the average of Ice mass from 1981 to 2010 where we have reliable data, the current is lower 2010, and current today is about even of your reference of 2012.
    Also your referencing Arctic Ice which will vary year over year. What is a better measure would be a global average temp. How is that compared to 100 years ago. Measuring Ice on one polar cap will show 1 side of planet, but if the opposite is seeing a much more drastic change could indicate a larger shift as a planet as a whole.
  • edited July 2019
    your "response" was disinformation
  • edited July 2019
    your "response" was disinformation
  • edited November -1
    Total BS from a weather announcer who can't understand numbers or science.
  • edited July 2019
    Great car, maybe continue posting in the weather channel
  • edited July 2019
    I dedicate Iceland's OK memorial to mitchp85d for helping it come to pass. Bravo mitch!!!
  • edited July 2019
    Yawn, the weather moron thinks by viewing a satellite video of snow and ice it means the ice caps are not melting. No wonder he is still a denier. If this guy is in fact a real weather man I pity the poor fools that hire him.
  • edited July 2019
    weathermoron link does at least help show that the sea ice is being reduced due to increase in global temperatures due to manmade pollution.
  • edited November -1
    The scientific consensus that humans are causing global warming is likely to have passed 99%, according to the lead author of the most authoritative study on the subject, and could rise further after separate research that clears up some of the remaining doubts.

    Three studies published in Nature and Nature Geoscience use extensive historical data to show there has never been a period in the last 2,000 years when temperature changes have been as fast and extensive as in recent decades.

    It had previously been thought that similarly dramatic peaks and troughs might have occurred in the past, including in periods dubbed the Little Ice Age and the Medieval Climate Anomaly. But the three studies use reconstructions based on 700 proxy records of temperature change, such as trees, ice and sediment, from all continents that indicate none of these shifts took place in more than half the globe at any one time.

    The Little Ice Age, for example, reached its extreme point in the 15th century in the Pacific Ocean, the 17th century in Europe, and the 19th century elsewhere, says one of the studies. This localization is markedly different from the trend since the late 20th century when records are being broken year after year over almost the entire globe, including this summer’s European heat wave.
    Major temperature shifts in the distant past are also likely to have been primarily caused by volcanic eruptions, according to another of the studies, which helps to explain the strong global fluctuations in the first half of the 18th century as the world started to move from a volcanically cooled era to a climate warmed by human emissions. This has become particularly pronounced since the late 20th century, when temperature rises over two decades or longer have been the most rapid in the past two millennia, notes the third.
    The authors say this highlights how unusual warming has become in recent years as a result of industrial emissions.
    “There is no doubt left — as has been shown extensively in many other studies addressing many different aspects of the climate system using different methods and data sets,” said Stefan Brönnimann, from the University of Bern and the Pages 2K consortium of climate scientists.
    Commenting on the study, other scientists said it was an important breakthrough in the “fingerprinting” task of proving how human responsibility has changed the climate in ways not seen in the past.
    “This paper should finally stop climate change deniers claiming that the recent observed coherent global warming is part of a natural climate cycle. This paper shows the truly stark difference between regional and localized changes in climate of the past and the truly global effect of anthropogenic greenhouse emissions,” said Mark Maslin, professor of climatology at University College London.

    Previous studies have shown near unanimity among climate scientists that human factors — car exhausts, factory chimneys, forest clearance, and other sources of greenhouse gases — are responsible for the exceptional level of global warming.

    A 2013 study in Environmental Research Letters found 97 percent of climate scientists agreed with this link in 12,000 academic papers that contained the words “global warming” or “global climate change” from 1991 to 2011. Last week, that paper hit 1 million downloads, making it the most accessed paper ever among the 80-plus journals published by the Institute of Physics, according to the authors.
    The pushback has been political rather than scientific. In the U.S., the rightwing think tank the Competitive Enterprise Institute is reportedly putting pressure on NASA to remove a reference to the 97 percent study from its webpage. The CEI has received event funding from the American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers and Charles Koch Institute, which have much to lose from a transition to a low-carbon economy.
    But among academics who study the climate, the convergence of opinion is probably strengthening, according to John Cook, the lead author of the original consensus paper and a follow-up study on the “consensus about consensus” that looked at a range of similar estimates by other academics.
    He said that at the end of his 20-year study period there was more agreement than at the beginning: “There was 99 percent scientific consensus in 2011 that humans are causing global warming.” With ever stronger research since then and increasing heat waves and extreme weather, Cook believes this is likely to have risen further and is now working on an update.
    “As expertise in climate science increases, so too does agreement with human-caused global warming,” Cook wrote on the Skeptical Science blog. “The good news is public understanding of the scientific consensus is increasing. The bad news is there is still a lot of work to do yet as climate deniers continue to persistently attack the scientific consensus.”
  • edited July 2019
    The record temps in Western Europe have abated. Nothing to see here, increasing rate of high records is now normal, move along. Oh, those high temps are now streaming over Greenland.
    They enter in the southeast then exit north toward the pole. Perhaps Greenland's ice will cool that massive amount of heat so that the new ice gap on Greenland's north coast wont be affected?
  • edited July 2019
    My brother said the acorns are falling off the trees in his yard already and the squirrels are gathering them up. Whenever it happens this early, he said they have a really bad winter with lots of snow and record lows.

    But then people believe that a groundhog can predict if fall will be early or late so who knows what to believe.

    I moved to Fl so all I know is that it will be between somewhere 60 and 90 every day with no chance of snow.
  • edited July 2019
    @teslu3. Do you have a point to make and if so what is it
  • edited July 2019
    Sigh, weathermoron still just doesn't get it. I guess he doesn't live in an area that's affected yet. lucky him.
  • edited July 2019
    Mitch linked to a graphic of the Arctic region that gives little insight to its condition. This year's ice extent is nearly matching the record year 2012. This is indeed unusual: https://skepticalscience.
    The jet stream brings considerable warmth over Greenland into the arctic this week, continuing the Arctic melt.
    Climate deniers may lose some trivial bets with scientists but they win big as they have convinced so many to ignore the huge costs now and far more to come.
  • edited July 2019
    @leeramer. He lives in Houston and his house got flooded. But like all deniers he doesn’t get the connection. He was only too happy that he had taxpayer funded FEMA flood insurance.
  • edited August 2019
    NEW YORK was able to ban fracking using facts. Other States should do the same.
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