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How Long Do Tires Last?

edited November -1 in Model 3
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  • edited March 2019
    Too many variables. I'll answer your question obtusely.

    Buy a tire depth gauge. They are cheap and can help you anticipate how soon you'll need replacements based on your existing driving habits. It'll help you with the effects of tire rotation too.

    At 2500 miles I was at 7/32 for my rear tires (from factory 8/32).
  • edited March 2019
    Which car? Which tire package? Who's driving?
  • edited March 2019
    Have you ever owned a car before? The only answer anyone can give is "It depends".
  • edited November -1
    We've got around 21K miles on our December '17 M3 RWD LR. I've only rotated the tires twice. I'm guessing another 5-7K miles will be about it.

    Tires will last longer on AWD M3s due to more even stress between front and rear.
  • edited March 2019
    ^^^. Lots of variable. But in general AWD cars are much harder on tires than 2wd. Due to tires on either side of a diff get increased strain. On 2wd tires get a break from that strain half the time. Again this assumes conservative driving.
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    edited November -1
    Conflicting answers from @rxlawdude & @coleAK, lol!
  • edited March 2019
    It depends. I am still in the "drive it like I stole it" honeymoon phase, after five months, and expect to get at most 20k miles.
  • edited March 2019
    Some have burned through rears in 5,000
  • edited March 2019
    I'm at about 4800 mi, with no visible signs of wear. The SC said 8s and 9s, whatever that means (I assume out of 10). I've never heard it put that way before.
  • edited March 2019
    @ODWms - They speak in the units of 1/32" for tire thread depth. Your threads were 8/32" and 9/32" deep which is pretty normal wear for that mileage on 20" tires. Ditto here.
  • edited March 2019
    I get 40,000 miles on the Primacy MXM4 on the S70D. That's without rotation.

    I respectfully disagree with @cole. Not sure his experience is with Teslas, but it sure doesn't match mine nor most of the AWD MS owners who post similar results.
  • edited March 2019
    Thanks, Surfpearl!
  • edited March 2019
    I thought I wasn’t driving super hard but at my first 6250 miles rotation my tires were: fronts 7/32, rears 4/32! I rotated fronts to back, and two weeks later for a follow up SC visit on an unrelated issue, they measured them at fronts 3/32, rears 6/32. Good lord, I must be driving harder than I thought. ; ) I imagine at this rate I’ll need to get a new set soon.
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  • edited March 2019
    I have 18 inch tires by Michelin and with over 6,000 miles I have used only one half 1/32. The factory told me they were 8.5/32 when new and now both the front and the rear show 8/32. I expect around 32,000 miles on this set. I am real pleased as the tires tend to be harder with the increased PSI.
  • edited March 2019
    @rxlaw. On our 2nd Tesla. Had a S and sold it when we got the 3. Have had around 40 cars over the last 35 years. And more than half were AWD: Audi’s, Subaru’s , Land cruisers, rovers, Porsche’s, MBs, now Tesla’s. I think over on the S forums you hear about it because people aren’t rotating their tires. And when people are complaining of uneaven wear F to R it’s almost always because they aren’t rotating often enough. I think not needing to take them in for service every 5k miles is a reason people aren’t doing it as often.

    Also on a 2wd it’s easier to just get 2 tires at a time rather the of a full set of 4. I guess with the Tesla’s one could argue without a center diff getting all 4 wouldn’t matter as much but who knows over time. I’m a little obsessive over rotations and do it on all my vehicles (well that don’t have differant front and rear sizes) every 5k miles. But I have a frame lift so it’s easy. Again with conservative driving when you drive a 2wd the non drive tires have much less energy going to them so more or less are much more along for the ride. But again it all depends on how you drive. When my wife had a cayenne turbo she went through a set of 4 tires well before her first oil change. At Over $3k a set, in 2003. And I fully expect her to go through the OEM tires on the 3 in 1-2 summers. When I had my GT3 cup on the track I would go through a set of rears in a weekend.
  • edited March 2019
    12k on rears
  • edited March 2019
    As I said, our AWD MS70D wears tires incredibly evenly.

    Our M3 is RWD and getting close to needing to replace the tires that were on the rear and rotated to the front. I'm not a fan of mismatched sets of tread depth, but I suppose it's okay to do. Better is to remember to rotate every 5K miles (and NOT to use Tesla Service to do it) so all four wear evenly. Easy peasy.
  • edited March 2019
    They last longer than @Baozij
  • edited March 2019
    First tire rotation ~7k. Shocked to learn still had 5/32 left on rear and 6/32 on front because i love to drive and particularly blast past assholes on NYC highways.
    Now that the shock is over, hoping i can stretch tires past 10k.......
  • edited March 2019
    Here is info I can provide:
    2018 M3P with 20" wheels. OEM Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires. Michelin website says tread depth is 9/32 (.28125) new but not sure the OEMs have that much? Unfortunately I didn't measure them new.

    First rotation at 5300 miles using Rennstand Jackstands, in my garage. Here are the tire measurements in thousands of an inch and approx treadlife left based on 3/32" (.09375) discard tread value:

    Outside Middle Inside Avg Est. Life Left
    LR .229 .231 .217 .225667 70.36%
    RR .215 .223 .224 .220667 67.69%
    LF .265 .269 .229 .254333 85.64%
    RF .27 .283 .234 .262333 89.91%

    Seems the even though it is dual motor the rears are wearing almost 2x as fast. I performed a cross pattern rotation LR->RF RR->LF LF->RR RF->LR per the michelin tire guidelines. I will check on the measurements at 7500 and see where it is.

    BTW the rennstand jackstands work great and aren't that expensive.
  • edited July 2019
    My wife has a M3 2wd LR with 7000 miles on it and the tires are down to 5/32. Unbelievable. My wife is 72 years old and does not race the car. I have a Model S and need new tires at 16K miles.
  • edited July 2019
    Its possible Tesla is not using the best tires on the market.
  • edited July 2019
    The first 3 answers are the best. YMMV

    My first set lasted 25K. They were at 3/32" when I replaced them.

    More detail if you care: The car's tires were at ~5/32" when I was at ~10K (going by memory here), then I really changed my driving habits and was able to get 15K out of the tires. Rought math says that's 30% better tire life if you change your driving habits.

    I feel confident I can make my new tires last 35K with the altered driving habits (Chill mode + No stomping on the pedal + no tight squealing turns)

    There's a thread floating somewhere that gives the exact dates when I took measurements, what the front/rear tire depths were, the math, etc - but all that means zilch. It's all about how you drive the car.
  • edited July 2019
    andy.connor.e | July 23, 2019
    Its possible Tesla is not using the best tires on the market.
    I am happy with Tesla's choice, I did extensive research before replacing my tires and replaced them with Primacy MXM4, same tires that came with the car.
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