Model X

New Model Y or used Model X?

edited November -1 in Model X
I plan on replacing my Audi MDX with an electric 3-row SUV in 2 years. I almost ordered a model Y, but now I am thinking maybe I will wait and buy a used X.

Questions
- how big is the back with all 3 rows seated in the Model X? Can I fit a stroller, a few bags?
- how reliable is the X?
- how much will a 2017 100D sell for in 2021 (roughly)?

Pros for X: larger, more stylish (Y is too similar to my Model 3), tow package,

Pros for Y: new vehicle, better battery technology = V3 supercharging, no falcon wing doors (my wife hates them)
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Comments

  • edited March 2019
    epostby - if you have 2 years still - there is plenty that can change in battery tech on the X - we know that at some point - things are going to change on the S and X.

    My bet - you will see the X and S get battery range boosts in 2 years time... I shouldn't say bet - my thoughts and opinions.

    You have time - I would wait and see. I will say...if you don't need 7 seats, the 6 seater X feels very spacious inside. I can't tell you how many people are amazed at the amount of space in our 6 seater X. I don't think you will feel the same at all in the Y. I would be surprised if the Y had any storage room if you used all 3 rows of seats as well...

    Our X with all 6 seats used - we fit everything we need for our family for a week trip (oldest is 16, youngest 10, 4 kids 2 adults). It is amazing between the frunk and trunk how much room there really is.
  • edited March 2019
    I would also think that come 2 years from now - the X and S will be able to do V3 charging - no way they let their higher priced models not get updated to this ability - it would become more suicide for their high end market - and frankly a little laughable to me. Elon has not held up the one promise he made - any new tech would first appear on the S and X before the 3...I know that situations has forced his hand to do what they have so far...but as time goes on - they will be doing things to make the X and S on par and beyond the 3 and Y...

    But of course 2 years from now - you are comparing a used X (so one that someone probably is buying now or earlier than now) - so you won't be getting the newer stuff yet from the X....So that is a tough decision.
  • edited March 2019
    [email protected] thanks good feedback on the size of the X, my family size is now 5 with little baby girl who arrived two weeks ago, two boys one girl. The 6 seater with the captains chairs sounds like it will be the right size for us, as long as I can put some bags in the back. In 2 years we probably won't need the stroller much.

    On the battery technology, yes I assume X and S will see some major interior and battery refreshes (upgrades) within 1-2 years. The problem is that I can't afford $100k brand new X, but I can afford a $30-50k X or Y. I will probably be stuck with a 3-4 year old X with the old battery technology, as long as it is a 100 kWh battery it should be ok and I can forgo the super fast V3 charging (more time for dinner!).

    My plan right now is to buy a 2017-2018 100D X in 2021, hopefully for $35-45k.
  • edited March 2019
    You won’t touch a 2018 100D for $35-$45k in 2021... sorry but that’s a six figures car, it doesn’t lose that much in 3 years!
  • edited November -1
    Think I have seen some people putting strollers in the Frunk of Model X. Handy space to carry a bunch of extra baby stuff.
  • edited March 2019
    Wow a stroller in the Frunk, amazing. I can fit only a backpack in my M3 Frunk.

    My guess is a 2017 X 100D will cost about $50k in 2021, which is about the same as last nights pricing for Model Y LR RWD.
  • edited March 2019
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  • edited March 2019
    I will need to see the Y in person and put my kids in the back to see if it will work.
  • edited March 2019
    We have a M3 and a MX. I drive the 3, my wife drives the X.
    Take an X for a test drive. It is an amazing vehicle and is surprisingly large inside (even with the 6 seat configuration that we chose). We use it for hauling stuff and when we head to the mountains. The air shocks are nice when there is snow piled up, the 3 would get high centered, I dont think anyone knows what the suspension will be on the Y. The funky doors are very nice for putting in the granddaughters carseat in the second row. Makes it effortless, other than that, I always thought they were ostentatious and unnecessary.
    To me, the X feels like a sports car pulling a trailer, my wife loves it. She says she feels safe driving it. She felt the same driving her old Suburban. No worries about "gas milage" with the bigger car which was the biggest drawback with the suburban, but the range is definitely less on the MX
    x2 on what Burdogg said about technology and changes in the next 2 years.
    I suspect you will be pleased whatever choice you make.
  • edited March 2019
    epostby,

    I wonder how folks will test-fit the Model Y (with their kids) when all the Tesla Stores are gone?
  • edited March 2019
    I have a model X, but have a model Y on order as an additional car. The X is fantastic car and I have found reliable. You have got to balance space with the newer technology including fast charging of the Y and see what is most important for you.
  • edited March 2019
    @jimglas and @ Jonathantuba thanks for the insights, I would love to get a used X in a few years, we'll see if it is in my price range. I hope Tesla puts air suspension on the Y, my 3 is very firm and bumpy, sporty as intended. For the family vehicle I would prefer a softer ride, and being able to increase clearance for snow or water would be a plus.

    @tropopause - 90% of the stores are staying, and a friend of mine just got an X so I will ask her about storage and look at the back with 3rd row up.

    It's good to have hard choices to make with EVs!
  • edited March 2019
    Is that Audi MDX from Germany or Japan?
  • edited March 2019
    @lin_bryce my MDX was built in the US
  • edited March 2019
    @epostby I was just having a little fun. Your post said Audi MDX but I’m assuming you mean Acura MDX.
  • edited March 2019
    Lol good one, SMH I looked at the Q7 but it drove heavy and ate tires for breakfast.
  • edited December 2019
    Wow, exactly the thread I am looking for. I’m in a similar situation. I’m planning to spend about 50K on a Tesla (for my wife who drives an Acura “not Audi” RDX) :D. Either order a new Y or get a used X in the next couple years. As I understand the currently available Model X use older technology batteries which is not appealing to me. But I have three small kids and space is so much valuable. Whenever grandparents visit there will be seven of us (but that is infrequent and we have a minivan for that use / hauling stuff).
    So
  • edited December 2019
    So the options are
    1) order a 5 seat Y (trading RDX)
    2) order a 7 seat Y (trading RDX) and wait longer.
    2) buy a used X (trading RDX)
    3) buy a new X whenever the newer technology batteries arrive, and trade my minivan along with the RDX.
    If I’m getting a Y (whichever version) it’ll be primarily for wife’s commute only. With Model X it can be business + pleasure (long trips included).
    Any opinions???
    Okay I have a Cybertruck on order which is non negotiable. :D.
  • edited December 2019
    I saw a 2018 MX 100D selling for $66K with 32K miles listed in my local CL. (6 seat config w/ enhanced autopilot).

    you may be able to get lucky if there are drastic changes in the MX by 2021 and people are dumping their old MX for an upgrade.

    MX is awesome with only regret of poor efficiency of the 22" wheels.
  • edited December 2019
    Go with a used X. About to pick one up from Tesla tomorrow. 2016 X, 75D, Fully loaded but with only AP1 for only 57k with a 4 year/50k mile warranty. Hard to buy new when it depreciates 40% in 3 years or so.
  • edited December 2019
    I'm actually thinking about selling my 2016 X 75D and buying a model Y next year. I was hoping I could get around $60K for it so thats good to know. I love my X but between the battery degradation and all of the older software/hardware I think a 2020 model Y will be a better move long term.

    I dont think the S or X are going to get a major refresh anytime soon to be honest. Tesla is going to be crazy busy over the next couple of years hitting production on all of their new cars, trucks, and energy products.
  • edited March 7
    Great post, I have a 2016 X 75D with AP1 and my lease is ending this month. I was also thinking about getting the Model Y or just keeping my Model X. I was hoping I could see a Model Y in person before making that decision. I love the X, but it has the old battery and hardware, other than that the car is amazing.
  • edited April 23
    Im looking at a 2019 X Long Range DEMO with 2K miles for 79K. Looks like a good deal.
  • edited April 23
    All Tesla have newer technology batteries. The 3/y use a different physical size than the S/X, but all have recently had their internal chemistry updated for better safety and performance. Rated range has increased for all of them as well. Latest Model S/X are called Long Range+ paritally due to recent changes to batteries and battery packs.

    Tesla batteries are under constant improvements. Waiting for a better battery will have you waiting forever.
  • edited April 24
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