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If there's a software upgrade to bring the LR Dual Motor acceleration close as the Performance, I wo

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  • edited November -1
    TM3Q, Nothing really, it just continues to cheapen the brand. Why buy a performance or any other aspect (EAP, AP, FSD) of Tesla if you can get it cheaper after the purchase. It is the bigger picture of the value of owning a Tesla. Not the stupid incremental after the fact sales tactics of trying to get less money, heck any money at all, for anything possible, after the sale has been made. Since they appear to be begging for additional revenue at every turn maybe Tesla could set up a go fund me page and sell badges, spoilers, and software.
  • edited March 2019
    I think what will piss off the "P people" (like myself) is knowing the difference between a Performance and regular AWD Model 3 is a software unlock. Elon promised we had top binned motors and different inverter (capable of higher loads).

    If we paid $11k for a software checkmark, that's a pickled pisser.
  • edited March 2019
    Tesla's mission is "to accelerate the world's transition to sustainable energy", not to create and sustain a premium brand. And, according to EM's "Secret Master Plan" building expensive (premium?) cars was the means necessary to achieve the end - building affordable, high volume cars. As Tesla progresses on their mission, I would expect the perception of Tesla as a premium brand to change into more of a valued brand for the masses.

    Also, as long as a speed upgrade for the Dual Motor Model 3s was priced fairly, relative to the Performance model, I don't think it would devalue those cars - and would certainly add value to the Dual Motor models.
  • edited March 2019
    Sorry, I should have used Kickstarter not go fund me but it is the same stupid issue.
  • edited March 2019
    Does not have to be performance level but it could be faster for cash!
  • edited March 2019
    @TM3Q: you are describing P3D-, like mine
  • edited November -1
    tom8959, I get your point. And perhaps EM can indeed provide a car to the masses with extremely low margins without having the higher profits from the Premium cars to sustain it. But history is not on his side. Kind of a shame in my opinion.

    Wonder how the board and all the Tesla shareholders feel when the very brief profits from the premium sales never show up again? It is going to be a long time before profits show up again even with selling the "free" software updates to everyone after the sale. This is shortsightedness.
  • edited March 2019
    @jimglas

    So P3D- is the LR Dual Motor with the same acceleration of the Performance at 3.4 sec is that correct?
  • edited March 2019
    I am a shareholder and an owner of two M3's. I completely support the decision for offering software upgrades. Lowering the price of cars, like he just did, is a much worse option!
  • edited March 2019
    @howard

    Do you know other compagny who gives all their patent to the world for free for technology advancement?

    They could have made $$$$ if they sold their patent.....it’s not all about cash! Elon has a mission so shareholder must fully understand that they are part of this adventure and not only for money!
  • edited March 2019
    *Clarification: Not just lowering the price of cars and hurting current owners but also the constant price adjustments. Makes it look like a clown show, especially to non Tesla fans and owners... Those who otherwise might have been interested.
  • edited March 2019
    TM3Q it is never about cash. It is about establishing a business model that is profitable and sustainable.

    Giving his patents away was a very cool and admirable thing to do. So there is the path to the masses?

    Like it or not Tesla the brand has always been at least up till now seen as a coveted premium brand. It is being viewed very differently now and is going to continue to be viewed negatively if the continued lack of focus and cohesiveness along with the knee jerk marketing decisions continue. This is viewed in the current downward valuation trend, even after the Y release and hint of the future pickup.
  • edited March 2019
    TM3Q, It is about establishing a business model that is profitable and sustainable.

    Giving his patents away was a very cool and admirable thing to do. So there is the path to the masses? He even provided a complete Smart EV to MB, an even bigger gesture.

    Like it or not Tesla the brand has always been at least up till now seen as a coveted premium brand. It is being viewed very differently now and is going to continue to be viewed negatively if the continued lack of focus and cohesiveness along with the knee jerk marketing decisions continue. This is viewed in the current downward valuation trend, even after the Y release and hint of the future pickup.
  • edited March 2019
    @TM3Q: Almost correct, 3.2 seconds (also has track mode after recent update)
  • edited March 2019
    I too would pay to get some extra accel for my dual motor version....as I see it, a software upgrade to, say, 3.9 sec would be a private transaction between me and Tesla and all others can butt out. No one will even know what the capabilities of my 3 are but me and Tesla; there was not even an outward sign that my car was the dual motor version until I badgered them into installing the badges. You won't know I upgraded until you try and jump me at a light.
  • edited March 2019
    I suspect Tesla knows and recognises that establishing a profitable and sustainable business model is key to achieving their mission. How they go about doing it is literally their business - not ours. They've made some missteps, but on the whole I think they're doing pretty well.

    And yeah, I'd pay $$$ to turbo-boost my Dual Motor :)
  • edited March 2019
    Tesla, dont listen to Howard. Lots of us will hand over money for software upgrades that make the car more powerful or more enjoyable around a track. I'd pay $1000 just to have traction control off while I'm at bogie motorsports.

    Except AP, tesla you're totally giving that to me for free because you fuct up my resale by lowering the cars msrp. So yeah, you owe me, oh no....even better....im ENTITLED to free AP.

    There, that should get a bunch of panties in a knot.
  • edited March 2019
    I have a P3D- that was 11k more than the AWD at the time. However I did get 5k refunded. So I'm OK with AWD owners paying 6k to get the power unlock to 3.2 0-60
  • edited March 2019
    What does the P3D- physically have that LR AWD doesn’t? Is it all software?
  • edited March 2019
    @lbowroom

    Ohhhh so it cost you 6K!!!!

    Ok now I want 3.2 sec for 6K lollllll
  • edited March 2019
    @amanwithplan sounds like binning for higher grade parts is the only difference? If that’s even true?
  • edited March 2019
    @xtermz

    As far as I am aware, that is all the information anyone has. All part-by-part disassemblies that I have read were on a non-P.
  • edited March 2019
    @TM3Q or free for those who prepaid FSD and EAP before price cuts.
  • edited March 2019
    P3D- owner here, I am in full support of a software grab for the LR DM to performace, as per the chassis, there is nothing different other than 1) warranty support 2) higher binned motors.
    If the LR DM motors just were that spec as they mass produced them and are not being utilized, they might as well cash grab this.

    The extra cost will justify warranty if the motors had issues, but the influx of cash more than makes up for it.
    Basically upsell when you do have money later, opposed at the time of purchase.

    This will not make the P3D+ any more different than the P3D- , so there shouldnt be any sour pickles.
    They still paid the same price (or minus 8 months of without P usage).
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