Model 3

New Key Fob

edited November -1 in Model 3
I just read an article that Tesla is going to release a new Key Fob for the M3 that has passive entry built in. Sorry if this was mentioned before, but searching this forum is impossible. The source is Electrek
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  • edited October 2019
    Link for the google challenged (and then I'll go read it): https://electrek.co/2019/10/02/tesla-relaunches-model-3-key-fob-fixes-drawback/
  • edited November -1
    Haha! Thanks, @ hokiegir1!
  • edited October 2019
    It is available for order
    https://shop.tesla.com/product/model-3-key-fob

    Description
    No hands required. Locking and unlocking your Model 3 has never been easier. Keep your key fob in your pocket and simply pull on the door handle for easy entry. Same with the trunk. Your key fob is automatically enabled when you pair with your vehicle.
  • edited October 2019
    Already sold out.
  • edited October 2019
    I thought model 3 isn't equipped with RF sensors. I guess the new key fob sends out bluetooth signals every few seconds?
    Does anyone know?
  • edited October 2019
    The car, I believe, uses Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE) signals for communicating with your phone for lock/unlock. This is a relatively recent addition to the Bluetooth standard, which is why older Android phones tended to have issues with lock/unlock. I'm sure that the fob uses the same thing.

    I don't know the specifics of how BLE works, but it's more likely that the car is transmitting a signal every few seconds, and the phone/fob is simply listening - but I could be wrong. BLE was designed specifically for this kind of use, so even the tiny battery in the fob should last for many months (a year? Two years? Who knows).
  • edited October 2019
    That sold out quickly.
  • edited October 2019
    Bluetooth 5.0 has a low power mode. This is probably why initially there were connectivity issues, because people have phones that have every version of bluetooth all the way down to 3.0.
  • edited October 2019
    I word of caution - Tesla goofed this up before - with the purchase page detailing passive entry functions. This was an error, and they corrected it. This could be a repeat, as the support page directly linked on the purchase page is still says that the fob doesn't do passive entry. Owners manual also not updated, and no direct announcement or mention from Tesla. This could be a issue of documentation catch up, but there is critical info lacking like what firmware version supports this, and does already released Model 3 fob support this?

    I am holding out hope, and will be very pleased if this is true. But we have been down this road before.
  • edited November -1
    Model S/X fobs have used Bluetooth since 2016.
  • edited October 2019
    Note that the quoted text from Tesla talks about locking/unlocking. It doesn't mention starting the vehicle, although that would be incredibly dumb if it didn't.
  • edited October 2019
    For those of us whose phone proximity unlocking is an issue, this is welcome news. I'm going to wait a while for positive feedback on the new fob before taking the plunge. Or maybe my new phone will resolve the issue - it would be awesome not to buy and carry a fob.
  • edited October 2019
    @dmastro

    What phone are u using right now?
  • edited October 2019
    I'm using a 1st gen Google pixel. About half of the times the car won't unlock if I just keep my phone in my pocket. The phone's Bluetooth seems to be "4.2, A2DP, LE, aptX" Not sure if a new phone helps.
  • edited November -1
    It could. If you get a truly new phone, it will have bluetooth version 5.0 minimum.
  • edited October 2019
    @MF16, The Pixel 4 is coming out in a couple of weeks, you might want to consider an upgrade. I have the Pixel2XL and the only time I've had any problems with the Tesla was when it ran out of battery. I'll be upgrading to the Pixel 4XL just as soon as they announce it, looking forward to the zoom lens, that's the only thing that was missing from the 2XL.
  • edited October 2019
    @andy.connor.e: I'm using iPhone X with 13.1. This phone has been unreliable with each different iOS version - I was hoping upgrades would force some kind of fix.

    The issue I experience over 90% of the time is that my screen needs to be on in order for proximity unlock to work. The phone doesn't need to be unlocked, just have the screen awake. So I end up digging into my pocket to fish out my phone and tap the screen.

    It doesn't affect proximity lock in any way - that always works.
  • edited October 2019
    +1 @dmastro: I have the same issue digging into my pocket and waking up my iPhone X to unlock the car. So if this keyfob will allow me to just walk up to my car and unlock it without any interactions with my phone, it is a must buy.
  • edited October 2019
    Wow im surprised such a new phone has so many issues. FOB is the way to go. Phone is a good backup plan.
  • edited October 2019
    The car shouldn’t unlock all doors as soon as the driver opens the door. This is basic safety as anyone can get in right after the driver!

    The car/app or whatever needs to be updated to have ability to unlock the driver door separately from the other doors.

    For a 50k+ car I expect a basic safety feature to be included and not have to buy it. Ricockulous!
  • edited November -1
    @OC

    i am almost completely sure that is a setting to only unlock driver door.
  • edited November -1
    +1 for Pixel phones. I have Pixel 3 XL and haven't had any issues.
  • edited October 2019
    @MTF16 I had a first gen pixel too and it sucked. Got a pixel 3 a couple months ago and it is flawless. Works 100% of the time.

    However, Tesla's use of GPS is another story... my pixel 3 doesn't really work with summon / enhanced summon. Phone GPS is fine, but the Tesla app mangles it somehow.
  • edited October 2019
    Pixel 3A is also flawless for me. Cheaper at $400.
  • edited October 2019
    It's legit - the support page has been updated. Total bummer though, this is a new fob - the original fobs won't support passive entry...

    https://www.tesla.com/support/model-3-key-fob

    Not clear if this authenticates for driving the car or just unlocking - not mentioned anywhere. Also conflicting info about walk away lock - says it won't, and says it can.
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