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  • edited November -1
    Incoming!
  • edited November 2019
    But but but how about rear cross traffic alert and none existing blind assist bahahah
  • edited November 2019
    Don’t feed the troll.
  • edited November 2019
    oh why not, someone went through a lot of trouble to write all that for him, let him post it. It doesn't make any sense anyway.

    400,000 not statistically significant, wow, who was your statistics professor?
  • edited November 2019
    More made-up "facts" from Fish. Doubt there are more than a handful of Corvair and Pintos still on the road - more likely they are in a museum or crushed in a junkyard.

    #1 - Actually as a Tesla owner, 400,000 is very statistically important. Higher volumes than many other vehicle models in their competitive segments. More importantly, looking at comparative rates of accidents for the same identical cars - with and without Autopilot use is far more useful.

    #2 - Actually a large percentage of owners have stretched their budget and came from much cheaper cars. People I see driving are all over the range in age and sex, although I have no way of knowing their financial state. Just because you're an old wealthy man, does make all owners the same.

    #3 - Autopilot is used on all sorts of roads, perhaps many that it shouldn't be today.

    We also know Tesla's AP system is considerably better than others as the others are mostly dumb lane-keeping systems that do little to avoid accidents and only have one or two cameras.

    Many reports of problems with those systems too, including your beloved Subaru. Things like coming to a complete stop on a freeway with nothing in front is an unresolved complaint of EyeSight.

    The Tesla rear wide-angle camera does a far better job of seeing cross-track info. AAA has rated most of these radar-based systems cross-track systems as poor with lots of failures (and accidents). Better to see what's going on than rely on an idiot light/buzzer and hope for the best.
  • edited November -1
    Fish is ALWAYS wrong
    (I dont even have to read his posts)
  • edited November 2019
    Pretty much
  • edited November 2019
    FISHEV you know there is no such thing as FSD right now so why are you trying to say it's not clear what is being used? It's AP which is by far the best driver assist system available from any manufacturer despite your claims otherwise.
  • edited November 2019
    Banana
  • edited November 2019
    LOL. The stinking fish must be sad that nobody reads his BS.

    Damn EAP is so far ahead of the non-existent competition. Even the shorts seem to be covering now.
    The grin continues.
  • edited November 2019
    fishev flagged multiple times for general jackassery.
  • edited November -1
    "More made-up "facts" from Fish."@TapTes.com

    Except they were the lead off statements in the OP's link.

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    #1: Tesla only had a fleet size of roughly 400,000 cars in Q3 2018. That is too small of a sample size for accurate data.

    #2: Tesla builds luxury cars most likely driven by old, wealthy men. That demographic is less likely to get into crashes.

    #3: Autopilot is only used on highways, crashes are less likely to occur there.

    ********************************

    The post itself was a game of telephone with a link to another website's interpretation of another websites interpretation of another website's interpretation of some Tesla stats that only compared Tesla's safety improve to Tesla's own safety record. As the third player notes he makes a lot of "assumptions". They don't really work out.

    For safest cars, IIHS.org explains it for you. Accura and Subaru are the leaders.

    https://www.iihs.org/ratings/driver-death-rates-by-make-and-model
  • edited November -1
    I've only seen someone with a vested interest like this a couple times in the past. Our old troll friend is back with a vengeance.
  • edited November 2019
    Fish is ALWAYS wrong.
    I don't even read his posts anymore.
  • edited November 2019
    I just flag them )
  • edited November 2019
    Please stop flagging FISH's posts. His nonsense should be on display so that everyone can see it. That evidence is important to counter his arguments. Feel free to pass by his posts (which I mostly do), but you need to leave his nonsense hang around for future reference.
  • edited November 2019
    @calvin940: +1

    All you flaggers do a disservice by censoring the forums from contrarian views. Refute him if you like, but allow the posts unless they are vulgar, harassing, etc.

    Many of the posts on this forum are subjective and not backed up by fact. If you censor one user's posts, then censor everything without a documented, footnoted reference.
  • edited November -1
    Why are lies more acceptable than bad language? Aren't they more harmful?
  • edited November 2019
    I can educate myself on a subject, read multiple sources, and determine who and which "facts" I want to believe.

    As most people on this forum state (over and over), they can identify lies. Moreover, the lies are refuted in a multitude of posts. So is everyone really concerned that FISH (or anyone else with dissenting opinions) is going to spread an unfettered unflattering message ... engage in discourse and debate. If FISH is lying, you will all out the lie many times over and no harm will be done.

    Language and harassment is more harmful and damaging than discourse. Also prohibited per the forum rules.
  • edited November 2019
    Flag liars. Sorry.
  • edited November 2019
    DMastro - uh, no. And if I don’t say something many people will think,”oh, I guess so “
  • edited November 2019
    @jimglas, your saying fish is always wrong is almost as annoying as fish is.
  • edited November -1
    Offending someone is worse than making people believe lies? Not sure if i agree with that.
  • edited November 2019
    Fish is always right
  • edited November 2019
    That's the spirit! ;-)
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