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Chevy Bolt charging at Tesla Supercharger

I saw a Bolt pull up to the Supercharger, put on an adapter, and walk away once it startEd charging. How is a Bolt owner paying for his electricity at a Supercharger or is he not paying? I have pictures but it doesn’t look like you can upload them on here.
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  • > @phil4791eng_98746796 said:
    > I saw a Bolt pull up to the Supercharger, put on an adapter, and walk away once it startEd charging. How is a Bolt owner paying for his electricity at a Supercharger or is he not paying? I have pictures but it doesn’t look like you can upload them on here.

    I saw the same thing in san diego over the weekend. I saw a FIAT 500e next to me as well.
  • You can post pictures at imgur and paste the links here. https://imgur.com/t/upload

    Are you confusing a destination charger with a supercharger?
  • @phil,
    Are you sure it was actually charging?
    Was it a Supercharger or a Wall/Destination charger?
    One can buy Tesla -to- J-1772 adapters that will physically connect a Supercharger to a J-1772 (Level 1 or 2) connector on the car but charging won't start.
    Did you look carefully enough to see if the adapter was to the full CCS connector including the 2 high power connectors under the J-1772 round, top portion? I'm guessing not.
  • Just Super! 😜
  • It was definitely not a Supercharger. When you see the blue ring or in the case of the 3 and Y, the blue "T", that is the car communicating with Tesla. Only after this "handshake" will the car be allowed to charge. A third party adapter is not going to make a Bolt "look" like a Tesla.
  • > @jordanrichard_629778 said:
    > A third party adapter is not going to make a Bolt "look" like a Tesla.
    But it will make a Bolt owner look like a Dolt.
  • I’m certain it was a Supercharging station (150 kW). I did not see which port in his car he plugged it into. He went in his car several times which appeared to be him verifying it was charging. Then walked to the mall.
  • edited August 31
    I mean... I suppose it's possible someone was able to build an adapter that translates protocol to spoof being a tesla and limit DC charge rate to 55kW to avoid damaging the bolt, but it doesn't seem very likely. Maybe he just wanted a good parking spot.
  • https://imgur.com/gallery/kxBM0QZ
  • I posted the link above to the pics
  • This chargers are at the far edge of the parking lot so parking spaces don’t get worse than this for the mall.
  • edited August 31
    @phil4791eng_98746796 It looks like one of these: https://ev-lectron.com/products/lectron-tesla-to-j1772-adapter-white

    From the product description: "Note: This product is not compatible with the Tesla Supercharger."

    There's nothing to prevent it from plugging in, but it isn't for DC fast charging; it's level 2. As you can see, and as predicted by @"Earl and Nagin 08 RDS 359" , it doesn't have the DC contacts:

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/2948/6296/products/[email protected]?v=1596768423

    https://evcharging.enelx.com/images/PR/Articles/blog/EMW_plugs_.jpg
  • Scam to get a spot, did you witness the car actually charging "phil"?
  • I did not look at his instrument panel or any other indication that it was charging. Two things made me question that someone found a work around. First, his in and out of the car while looking at his instruments (I’m assuming to verify charging start/rate). Second, it was my first trip to a Supercharger and it let me charge without a payment method setup and didn’t prompt any warning. Later that day I got a message on my car saying I owed money for charging today. Makes me wonder if a lot of the verification isn’t done until the charging has completed.
  • I seriously doubt he was charging. I am guessing prank or scam. You got that message because TESLA was able to shake hands with your car identifying as a Tesla would be my guess how it works. Your car is part of the mothership.
  • edited August 31
    It would be interesting to see what his display said. Maybe it confirms that there is a charger connected and he thought that meant it was charging. Superchargers don't put out VAC, it's VDC only. Even if the adapter spoofed being a tesla, when 50-400VCD got applied to the Bolt's 240VAC AC/DC converter, the driver would have had a really bad day.

    But I'm going back to my initial guess: he wanted the parking spot.
  • Just saw a Bolt do that at the Kelso Tesla charger. The Porsche Taycan owner I charged next to at EA said there is an adapter sold to allow CCS charging from Tesla's proprietary charge plug.

    And one of the Oklahoma public charging places sells an adapter to allow Tesla's to charge using their CCS plugs.

    " Our Francis EV fast chargers come with both CCS and ChADeMO universal plugs, and Tesla™ drivers can purchase an adapter to use our universal plugs."

    https://francis.energy/

    Not sure if they mean the Chademo or their CCS or Tesla's adapter or theirs.

    Waiting on call back from their tech support.
  • > @FISHEV said:
    "And one of the Oklahoma public charging places sells an adapter to allow Tesla's to charge using their CCS plugs."

    > @FISHEV said:
    " Not sure if they mean the Chademo or their CCS or Tesla's adapter or theirs."

    If you're not sure whether they mean Chademo or CCS, why did you state the they sell an adapter to charge using CCS? You're contradicting yourself within one post.

    Read the next sentence after the one you quoted. It's pretty clear they're talking about the adapters Tesla sells, i.e. chademo and J-1772.
  • > @M-A-B-MCMLXXX said:
    It's pretty clear they're talking about the adapters Tesla sells, i.e. chademo and J-1772.

    Except it's not clear is it their Chademo or CCS adapter or Tesla's. If they meant Tesla's, they'd have said "Available from Tesla" but they pointedly don't. Poor copy work? Possibly but we'll see.

    And what was the adapter the Porsche guy mentioned that allowed other EV's to use Tesla chargers. I assume it was built for the "destination" Tesla chargers at hotels.
  • Zero evidence the car was charging
  • The word "also" should be a clue.
  • The brand new, 12-stall, 250 kW supercharging station in Chula Vista CA has a few DC fast charge-type stations installed discreetly between the more showy red and white supercharger stalls. Could it be that that's what you saw?
  • edited September 1
    > @avesraggiana said:
    > The brand new, 12-stall, 250 kW supercharging station in Chula Vista CA has a few DC fast charge-type stations installed discreetly between the more showy red and white supercharger stalls. Could it be that that's what you saw?

    No, his photos tell the tale. It's clearly a tesla charger connected to an adapter sold by ev-lectron. The red button referred to on the product site is quite apparent. https://i.imgur.com/SXesZxF.jpeg

    It is for AC charging, not DC. It was connected, but not doing anything.
  • that Bolt owner should send that pic to GM corporate. "see, if you made a decent EV and buy into the Tesla network, you'd sell a ton of these things".

    wait. GM doesn't want that.
  • > @finman100_639203 said:
    > that Bolt owner should send that pic to GM corporate. "see, if you made a decent EV and buy into the Tesla network, you'd sell a ton of these things".

    What was odd about the Bolt owner I saw charging at Tesla's Kelso SC last week is that there is an EA fast DC charging station in the same mall parking lot where she could have just hooked up to the CCS plug.

    How does she pay for the hookup?

    Is it just L2 or full 55kW that the Bolt can take?
    .
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