Model S

Tesla wants feedback on any poor (or great!) customer experiences

edited November 2012 in Model S
I was intrigued by this thread (sorry it's locked) where @Chris10 had an amazing customer experience, but @DavidG had a pretty poor one. Elon and George have set very high expectations for both vehicle quality and customer experience and clearly DavidG's experience was not what TM (or any of us) would like.

I'm pretty passionate about customer experience myself and knowing how difficult it is for any company to stay on top of every customer touch I thought I owed it to TM and all of us to make sure DavidG's story got to the right place.

I happen to know (be acquainted with) a senior customer experience guy at TM. I reached out to him an pointed out DavidG's story.

He called me today and thanked me for the feedback. He says his team is trying to stay on top of all the issues and everything that is going on in the forum, but there are always growing pains. He REALLY wants to know about ANY experience problems there are out there, and it wouldn't hurt to throw in some good experiences too. :-)

He says that [email protected] will to straight to his team, and if you prefer you can get them on 877.778.3752 He promises that the phone should go straight through to the team and you shouldn't need to "press 1 for customer service"

I think we owe it to all current and future Model S (and follow on) owners to help TM stay on track and ensure the customer experience is the best in the industry. Please make sure the ownership team hears about any problems. Its they only way they'll be able to fix them.


  • edited November -1
    Nice thinking.

    Tesla, why you need someone else to ask this simple questions? Most of us are big fans and are happy to help!
  • edited November -1
    Just called for a status update. Call was answered on the first ring and I was able to get answers to my questions. Thank you for giving us the phone number, Nick.
  • edited November -1
    @ nickjhowe - I sent an email 6 days ago to [email protected] asking for help on an issue in the Software Enhancements thread. I have yet to receive a response. I plan to send a follow-up email tomorrow. I wonder if it would do any good to include your contact as a Cc on my follow-up email. If you think yes, maybe you can send me his email address at [email protected] Thanks, Rod.
  • edited November -1
    I was test driving the Model S in San Diego and was satisfied in general but have 2 things that did not.
    1. Even with the creep mode on the car rolls backward when releasing the brake when stopping on an uphill road. When standing in a line on a traffic light on an uphill road that makes we very uncomfortable to worry not to hit the car behind me. Your engineers should get a hand on a BMW ActiveE, when releasing the brake the car still stands still (braking) until you touch the accelleration paddle.
    2. There needs to be a setting to more agressively use of the regenerative braking (right now there is low and standard), there should be a high setting also. Again in the BMW ActiveE I barely use the brake, all what I do is get off the accelleration and the regenerative braking stopps the car for me. Just at the end when the car stopps I put my foot on the brake.
    I still are eager to get the Model S as soon as possible, great car.
  • edited November -1
    @pahlemann, I think you are speaking about "hill assist". I think this is one of the things that are in their way into software, but just isn't quite here yet.

    For parking I think it could be possible to make "parking mode" for a car where accelerator changes from torque to speed. Computer does the rest (low speed obviously). I mean no matter if you are going uphill, downhill, bumpy parking lot, slippery or whatever, when you press pedal this much car goes at this speed at the direction your gear selector points it.

    One of the things that ICE cars could not do, but what should be rather trivial to do with BEV:s.
  • edited November -1
    Seems like the improved communications push may be suffering from sprinter burn-out! It can't be sustained without adequate staff and tight internal commlines.

    Related, I've noticed a bit of a push from PayPal, banks, ISPs etc. lately to quickly follow up contacts with surveys and questionaires on the "experience". Getting irritating. As are the robot-like "Did I resolve all your problems?" closing questions! Got to think up some doozies for the next one who asks that ...
  • edited November -1
    I received an email response yesterday from the Tesla Ownership Team. The email noted that several customers emailed the team concerning my communications problem. Thanks for your help and support! FYI here is my post from the Software Enhancement thread concerning Tesla’s response:

    “I recently exchanged emails with the Tesla Ownership Experience Team. I told them about our software enhancement list and asked if they would forward the information on to the Tesla team responsible for selecting and implementing software enhancements. The Ownership Team told me that they forwarded the information to the appropriate Engineering and User Interface teams. I’m sure there many issues Tesla has to consider when selecting software enhancements, but I hope that our inputs will be seen as a useful resource.

    @ DouglasR – The Tesla Ownership Experience Team verified that the Model S does not currently have the mechanical components necessary for power folding side mirrors. So, this feature cannot be implemented via software only and therefore cannot be added to our list.”
  • edited November -1

    IMHO, unless you drive like a out of control maniac, I find that the normal regen mode is more than enough for everyday safe driving.
  • edited November -1
    In some places if you don't tailgate with the crowd, the traffic closes in on you and nips your heels (and elbows). And regen is only so-so for tailgating.
  • edited November -1
    Speaking of hill hold or hill assist:
    I've done a fair bit of driving in SF and on mountain roads in the last couple of weeks, and I don't miss hill hold much.
    I thought I would, but it's not that bad with the creep mode on.
    The only funny episode I had is when I rolled forward from my driveway (it's pretty steep), pushed the accelerator and to my complete surprise the car started backing up.
    Then I realized that I was still in Reverse (!), but the car happily rolled forward like it was in N or D.
    No harm done, was just me being a half-asleep dork, but something to keep in mind, check your gear ;)
  • edited November -1

    The reverse beeping in the Prius has saved me a couple of times when I've flubbed a shift. This should be a configurable option.
  • edited November -1
    Update: I just got off the phone with my Tesla contact. I had expressed some frustration to him that despite NKincaid's postings on the Bulletin Board, TM seemed to be deathly silent on many questions: when is 3G pricing coming out? Will we get 4G? When will we be able to buy the service package/extended warranty? Where are there multiple point releases for the same software (e.g. 2 versions of 4.2)? When/where are the supercharges coming?

    I suggested that a lot of people have a lot of questions that don't seem to be getting answered.

    His response was in several parts:
    <ol><li>There aren't that many questions/concerns being sent to [email protected], so maybe I'm overstating the issue</li>
    <li>There's a lot they can't say because it has commercial or contractual impacts - e.g., they don't want to say too much about future supercharger locations because it might drive up the real estate cost</li>
    <li>The gave dates in the past that they didn't meet and upset a lot of people; they don't want to do that again. They feel people will be more upset by them missing dates than by them not giving possibly incorrect dates</li>
    <li>They really don't know the timing of a lot of things. When they know they'll tell us</li>
    <li>They are going to try to put more effort into the bulletin board to get info out there</li>
    <li>Posting a comment/question to the general TM forum is NOT the same as sending an email to Ownership.</li></ol>

    So....if there's info you want to hear, or problems you are experiencing MAKE SURE YOU SEND AN EMAIL TO OWNERSHIP. They DO read the emails, and its the best way to influence their behaviour.

  • edited November -1
    The electric heater could be supplemented with hot air vented to the cabin from the motors and/or batteries to reduce impact on the range of the MS during cold weather. It may be sufficient to use electric seats with the vented hot air only in moderately cold weather.

    As A/C uses considerable power and reduces range, I suggest you consider the A/C system developed by Bill Lear (of LEAR JET fame), i.e., a simple air compressor with heat exchanger and compressed air container that can release the expanding COLD air into the cabin as desired to cool the cabin. It's comparably simple, uses no chemicals that can cause ozone problems, and would have less impact on the range.

    Additional changes desired are DOOR POCKETS and POCKETS on the backs of the front seats. This essential storage space is found on many luxury cars and even on the Prius! PLEASE do this!!!

    Also, please provide a console between the front seats to the dash for additional needed storage as standard equipment.

    I'm hoping that you consider these suggested changes to further improve the car.

    I'm expecting delivery of my MS near the end of the year, can hardly wait!
  • edited November -1
    This is not a corporate site. Address your appeals to [email protected], with notification here if you are recruiting support from 'Enthusiasts and owners'.
  • edited November -1
    I tried the email address mentioned here ([email protected]), and I recieved the following response:

    You have reached an address that is no longer monitored.
    If you have taken delivery of your vehicle, please email [email protected]
    If you have questions regarding your reservation or existing order, contact [email protected]

    I wish there was a customer feedback email, or form on their site. I'm getting very poor communication from the tesla representatives. I would think they would be more concerned about feedback from customers.
  • edited November -1
    Australia has servicehelpAU, based in Europe. I have to say they have been very responsive to my communications.
  • edited November -1
    Click on Support at the top of the page.
    Go to the bottom of the page and click on Contact.

    Under Submit a Question or Comment click on the pull down under Topic.
    Click on Model S Owner Feedback

    Fill out the form.

    I got a reply a few hours later when I used that form.
  • edited November -1
    @pixonti <i>I wish there was a customer feedback email, or form on their site.</i>

    Next time wish for something that doesn't already exist. You know, just in case.
  • edited November -1
    Like others have said:

    1. On top menu click on "Support"
    2. Scroll down to bottom right and click on "Contact"
    3. In the contact form change topic to "Model S Owner Feedback" and write a message.

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    Recently Jerome Guillen said they are reading all messages they receive and a priority list of issues is created according to number of messages they receive on any topic. Therefore it seems like a good idea to send them a message instead just calling them.
  • edited November -1
    I posted on a thread in this forum about a rattle I'm hearing in a door, and to my surprise I got an email from Tesla to set up an appt to have it looked at. In my case, it can wait a month or so until my second annual inspection, but it was impressive the way they followed up with me. Bravo!
  • edited November -1
    I too posted about my windsheild washer not shooting any fluid when pressed and I got a call the next day asking if I can bring the car in for service or if they can come pick it up and drop me off a loaner. Come to find out @Phillygal told me to push the button in harder and sure enough out came the fluid so I was able to cancel the service call. I'll chalk that one up to newbie error; however, Tesla's responsiveness to a random post on a forum is pretty impressive.
  • Here is mine. I decided to spring for paint armor on my 2014 Model S delivered in Sept. I based this decision on a diagram that showed the paint armor was extremely comprehensive. I don't remember if the diagram was on Tesla's website when I ordered in May or from the Tesla motors club.

    Recently, when listing the car for sale (getting S85D) a prospectve buyer backed out due to small cinder scrapes in the clear coat on the lower rear door edges and the area between the lower rear door and the front of the rear wheel. This triangle area was supposed to be protected according to the diagram as were the door edges. Even my wife' Camry has door edge protection as standard equipment. The buyer then sent me a copy of that same diagram. It showed that the scratched area was supposed to be covered in paint armor.

    After many discussions with Tesla ds and a very great service center guy they sent me an excel spreadsheet with a "new" diagram. It seems the one I used to make my purchase decision was from 2012 or so they said. That date info was nowhere on the "old" diagram. Nor could I find anywhere where that diagram was rescinded or supplanted with any new information. So it appears one of the many rolling changes Tesla made was to cut back significantly on paint armor coverage with no notification that I could find anywhere.

    At this point Tesla has offered nothing but an explanation that I used an "old" diagram for my purchase decision. Though, to my knowledge, a "new" diagram was not made publicly a available. Leaves me feeling not good about this.

    Taking an option from extra to standard adds value as with nav package etc.. Cutting back on something without making that known to your buyers is shoddy at best, deceptive at worst even if it is just part of "growing pains".
  • edited February 2016
    We've been dumb-founded by the poor service provided by TM ever since we took our delivery on Dec 7, 2016.

    First of all, we were sold on the promise that we can design our car online and get it exactly we ordered. Well, that was not the case. After the factory tour and all the ceremonial acts, we were told that there was a TINY mistake that the car came with a normal leather dash board instead of the Alcantara dash board that we ordered. We were told that Tesla will be happy replace it any time we bring the car back to the factory - sounds pretty easy, but the principles of customer service were already violated here. For a car that is over $80K and for a mistake on the manufacturer side, Tesla should know better not to inconvenience the customer to bring the car back to the factory and wait for who knows how long to get it fixed - anyone who lives in the Bay Area knows what a hassle it is. We contacted customer service multiple times trying to get it done at a nearby service center. After making an appointment and waiting for weeks, we brought the car in only to be told at the end of the next day that the part ordered was made for Europe and the correct part could not be located anywhere in the US - despite the fact that the service center was only 20 miles from the Fremont manufacturing facility. That was three weeks ago and we have not heard an update since.

    Second, as we drive the car, the driver assistant program will work intermittently. At the service appointment, we brought up the issue and were told it was caused by camera defect which required camera calibration. After one and a half day calibrating, the issue persists.

    Thirdly the car drives beautifully, but given the expense, the company should be ashamed of the quality of their customer service (I have to say that the customer service people we interacted were nice and friendly, but that is not all to customer service). All the other luxury car makers have regular survey of their customers not just on how well the car drives, but how comfortable and how driver-friendly their cars are designed. I wish Tesla had something like that to continue improve the design of the car and to evolve the brand rather than dissolve the brand into bankruptcy.

    On the last note, I did call the number listed at the beginning of this thread and instead of going directly to "the senior customer experience guy's team", it went DIRECTLY to the roadside assistance switch board which required further selection.
  • edited November -1
    When are Model X owners going to get documentation allowing us to buy the extended service warrantees?
  • edited December 2016
    Don't know the answer and don't know why this it the thread you would use to post the question. It's not even on X forum.
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