Model 3

$10,000 for FSD!

I love Autopilot, and for the most part it works great on my 3. The only feature I’d add to it is the ability to change lanes while on AP. But for that one feature, since it’s part of FSD, we have to cough up $10,000! That’s about 20% of the car’s total cost! Tesla really should come up with an a la carte program (where the total of all of the individual features exceeds the $10k) giving owners the ability to choose only what they need.
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  • Should have bought EAP when it was on sale for 4k.
  • In meantime, some less expensive ways to get some of the features or at least make the AP safer.

    https://forums.tesla.com/discussion/177855/blind-spot-monitor
  • Rip van Winkle, ladies and gentlemen.
  • Call your cable company and tell them you don’t like their cable lineup and you prefer to pick just the channels you want.

    Go to the store and tell them you don’t want the entire dozen eggs you just want 2 out of the package.

    Go to a casino and tell them you don’t want to bet the minimum.

    Maybe you need to wait for subscription pricing.
  • God, Fish is pathetic
  • Anyone else notice that fish doesn’t post about any recent experiences driving his car? No more commuter stories, no updates on which chargers work or don’t, where he can buy coffee while he charges, nothing.
  • > @SALR1221 said:
    > we have to cough up $10,000! That’s about 20% of the car’s total cost!



    Being a tesla shareholder, I appreciate your contribution to the bottom line.

    The software charges are what kept us afloat during the lean years.

    There is only so much profit you can squeeze out of metal and plastic (the car).

    Increasing the software license is an easy way to increase the profit margin on each vehicle sale.

    My friend works in tesla marketing and it might get bumped up another 2k in 12-18 months.
  • > @sixstring09 said:
    > Increasing the software license is an easy way to increase the profit margin on each vehicle sale.
    >
    Only if the buyer elects to purchase the license. I bet they would earn more profit from FSD at $5,000 than $12,000, simply because far more people would buy it.
  • Since I've already purchased FSD for my Model 3 at $7k ($5k for EAP when purchased in '18 plus another $2k to get the HW3 computer upgrade when it was on sale later), it makes my decision harder to ever trade my car in and get a newer Model 3/Y knowing if I want FSD I'll have to cough up another $10k for it. I haven't even had a chance to experience the current FSD (that will be released hopefully soon) with FSD on surface streets. Guess I'll stay with my '18 Model 3 for a few more years but in that time as I watch FSD go up in price, the decision on whether to pay the increasing price becomes even harder.
  • > @sixstring09 said: > The software charges are what kept us afloat during the lean years."

    Nah...that was US government loans $500M when Tesal was going bankrupt in 2009. That's on top of....

    "A recent L.A. Times analysis of subsidies for all three companies headed by Musk -- Tesla, SolarCity SpaceX -- found that the company has received or secured commitments for $4.9 billion in government support. The figure underscored Musk’s strategy of incubating high-risk, high-tech companies with public money. Tesla accounted for almost half of the total."

    https://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-tesla-grabs-california-subsidy-20150609-story.html

    Now back to customers paying $10K to be beta testers.
  • So Tesla paid back the 500 million dollar loan. When is GM going to pay back the 11 billion?

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-autos-gm-treasury/u-s-government-says-it-lost-11-2-billion-on-gm-bailout-idUSBREA3T0MR20140430
  • > @HAL2001 said: > So Tesla paid back the 500 million dollar loan."

    Tesla would not be in business today without it.
  • $6B could come in handy now. Pay the fuck up, Ford.
    Be more like Tesla.

    https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/07/29/ford-government-loan-department-energy-debt/5526413002/
  • > @Bighorn said: > $6B could come in handy now. Pay the fuck up, Ford. "

    Yikes...you never read your link. All payments made by Ford, just $1.4 to go, all on time just like Tesla.
  • Robbing Peter to pay Paul. They’re in debt up to their eyeballs.

    Tesla paid it off years ahead of schedule. So not like Tesla. Financial crisis mode for Ford. That’s why their entire market cap is a good up day for TSLA.
  • > @Bighorn said: > Tesla paid it off years ahead of schedule."

    A good investment by US government then, saving Tesla from bankruptcy.
  • The point remains that FSD has helped pay the bills in recent years, not some irrelevant loan.
    At least Tesla did with the money what they promised unlike Ford which shipped the jobs they were supposed to save in the US to Mexico. Plus their EV program remained wanting.
  • > @lbowroom said:
    > Anyone else notice that fish doesn’t post about any recent experiences driving his car? No more commuter stories, no updates on which chargers work or don’t, where he can buy coffee while he charges, nothing.

    I had already assumed he never had one...
  • Ford! I’d be embarrassed to drive one! An idiot to buy one and a loser to fawn over one on a Tesla forum!
  • "A good investment by US government then, saving Tesla from bankruptcy."

    I guess you could say that it would have been a "good investment" by whoever Tesla chose to borrow money from.

    Also, you need to brush up on your if/then statements. Your conclusion is unfounded.
  • > @TabascoGuy said:
    > I guess you could say that it would have been a "good investment" by whoever Tesla chose to borrow money from.

    Well maybe not. Tesla paid the loan off early so they didnt earn as much interest on the loan as they could have. ;-)
  • The govt also didn’t get a piece of TSLA by paying it off early.

    Fish has already moved on from Ford if you can believe his Mache posts. Too disappointed in the meager range.
  • @HAL2001

    Touché.

    Perhaps they made up for it from Ford and GM.
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