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Enter the Dragon. Xpeng takes on Musk and Tesla.

Xpeng Calls Musk's Tweets 'Bullying' Tactics, Isn't Taking It Anymore
Xpeng CEO to Elon: "Be prepared for us to beat you out of your mind."

Duamn!!!

Guess Trump....er....Musk went one tweet over the line though the parallels are interesting all the tweets and phone lawsuits.

Xpeng CEO to Elon: "Be prepared for us to beat you out of your mind."

Xpeng Motors is tired of Elon Musk's repeated accusations about intellectual property theft and broke its months-long silence on the issue. This came following a tweet Musk made last week after Xpeng announced it will be the first electric vehicle automaker to include lidar on its vehicles.

Earlier this year we posted a deep dive into the IP theft allegations, and thoroughly explained the entire situation.

https://insideevs.com/news/455900/xpeng-responds-elon-musk-tweet/

Musk and Tesla pulled the same thing on Rivian.

"Rivian has asked a judge to dismiss a lawsuit filed by Tesla, arguing that two of the three claims in the case fail to state sufficient allegations of trade-secret theft and poaching talent and instead was an attempt to malign its reputation and hurt its own recruiting efforts."

https://techcrunch.com/2020/08/11/rivian-fires-back-at-tesla-in-lawsuit/

Comments

  • Gotta say the Xpeng P7 makes the Model 3 a bit dated.

    https://en.xiaopeng.com/p7.html
  • I would hope that every EV manufacturer considers their competition to be ICE vehicles, not other EV manufacturers. That's certainly how Tesla sees it.
  • Sweet! Bring it on!

    Rivian asking a judge to dismiss the case isn’t news
  • > @FISHEV said:
    > Gotta say the Xpeng P7 makes the Model 3 a bit dated.

    Tesla made in America
    Xpeng made in communist China
    Bolt made in Korea
    E-Stang made in Mexico
    Your hate for American products says everything
    You are dated
  • Fish doesn't get that China making more EV's is a good thing.

    Sounds like Elon is daring them to out produce Tesla.

    Likely the puppet is not aware that someone else is pulling the strings.
  • > @Xerogas said: > I would hope that every EV manufacturer considers their competition to be ICE vehicles, not other EV manufacturers. That's certainly how Tesla sees it."

    Not based on actions as Tesla has sued other EV makers, Xpeng and Rivian, but not sued any ICE mfgs.

    Tesla pretty much gave up on being an advocate for EV's and is now an advocate for Tesla profits uber alles.
  • Ha ha ha. Buy one. I dare you.
  • > @SamO said: Buy one. I dare you. "

    If Xpeng could sell in US, I'd get the G3 over the X7. If US is going to meet the Green New Deal goals of all zero emissions cars for sale by 2035, we may need Chinese imports to do it.
  • Lol. Sure guppy. Show yourself maths.
  • "Tesla is doubling down on its claim that Xpeng, a Chinese electric vehicle startup, has stolen and is using its Autopilot source code."

    "Last year, Tesla initiated a lawsuit against Guangzhi Cao, a former Autopilot engineer who quit to join Xpeng’s autonomous driving team."

    "In the lawsuit, the automaker claims that Cao downloaded the Autopilot source code to his personal device through Airdrop before leaving and selling it to Xpeng when joining the company."

    "Tesla also made similar accusations against its former head of Autopilot, Sterling Anderson, when he went on to launch his own startup, but Tesla ended up dropping the lawsuit."

    https://electrek.co/2020/04/27/tesla-claim-xpeng-stole-autopilot-source-code/
  • And the Chinese stealing US technology is news? Been happening for a long time, and will continue for a long time. It's hard to imagine a company in a year or so can deliver level 5 autonomous driving technology on their own with a few engineers. Strange how FISH is happy with intellectual property theft so long as IP is stolen from Tesla.
  • Isn’t there also a lawsuit from Apple against Xpeng for another patent proprietary infringement?

    Lawsuit with Tesla, Apple, etc
    The only good think about Xpeng is that they produce EVs
  • > @"TeslaTap.com" said: > And the Chinese stealing US technology is news?”

    And US stealing Chinese tech? I certainly hope our industrial spies are as good as China’s as we are paying a lot for them.
  • What tech has China developed on their own that we steal?
  • I got it.
    FISH is working for China. (Not for the oil guys or ICE manufacturers like we thought)
    That’s why aside from being anti Tesla
    He is extremely pro the green new deal (And over the top anti Trump)

    Adopting heavy regulations on manufacturing pollution will send all manufacturing over to China. (Won’t help the world, since China will continue to be the wold biggest polluters, just American factories will be shut and give a false sense of accomplishment to some people)
  • > @MK_NJ said: > Adopting heavy regulations on manufacturing pollution will send all manufacturing over to China."

    Has not been the experience in the EU.

    Is that why Musk built in China to escape US environmental and labor laws?

    What sent US industry over to China was US industry and a Reaganomics Greed is Good financial scammers on Wall St.

    Adding an import tax based on environmental laws and enforcement, labor laws and freedom to unionize and level of democracy would be good tariffs to have. Vote in reps who are for that policy.
  • And here goes Fish copying and pasting talking points provided by China’s “PR” (read propaganda machine)

    We don’t need to look to EU. We have personal experience. As the US increased regulations on US companies, and opened up our borders to “free trade”...
    result = corporations moving manufacturing mainly “overseas” (read China) and a few to Mexico.
    Obama declared: manufacturing is never coming back to the US...
    well, as soon as the next president started deregulating, all of a sudden 100’s of thousands of manufacturing jobs came back to US.
  • "Is that why Musk built in China to escape US environmental and labor laws?"

    No, Tesla is building cars in China to sell in China for efficiency and economic purposes. It's cheaper to build them where you sell them.
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