I got a used 2018 Model 3 LR AWD a little over 4 months ago. This car came with EAP and HW2.5, and to put it simply the autopilot was horrendous. Did it work? Yes, so long as the lines were crystal clear and the road quality was good. Have you ever driven down a road that has a bus stop area where the curbline gets stretched the width of a bus so it does not stop traffic behind it? Everytime the highway would open up like that for an exit or on-ramp lane the car would jerk the wheel to the right to center the car in the double wide lane, and i mean JERK the wheel.
I am now driving on 2020.48.26 with FSD and HW3.0, and i activated autopilot on the 45mph road that i use to get to work. It has 2 lanes each side, center turning lane, stoplights, and those bus stop areas that i mentioned above. Autopilot (not FSD beta) handled the road incredibly well. It honestly blew me away how well it handled. The steering was gentle, acceleration was not jumpy, flowed through the stoplight intersections and maintained a straight path, and most importantly did NOT try to center the vehicle in the double wide bus stop areas like it used to prior. Stopping for a stoplight works every single time, and accelerates once light turns green. Road lines are very clear.
Pretty unbelievable improvements IMO. What are your experiences?
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> Biggest issue with it is its speed limit restriction on back roads. Just wish I could do the speed I want to, the flow of traffic.
If you were allowed to set any speed you wanted I suspect you could end up going faster than the computer can analyze the road ahead. Sure there are some roads you would be able to safely do that but how would Tesla determine which roads to allow it on? Right now exceeding the +5 MPH is Limited Access, divided highways only.
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> > Biggest issue with it is its speed limit restriction on back roads. Just wish I could do the speed I want to, the flow of traffic.
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> If you were allowed to set any speed you wanted I suspect you could end up going faster than the computer can analyze the road ahead. Sure there are some roads you would be able to safely do that but how would Tesla determine which roads to allow it on? Right now exceeding the +5 MPH is Limited Access, divided highways only.
I dont know the answer, but If the cameras are already seeing corners and obstacles and slowing down, why can't it do the same if I'm going faster? How can the cameras work going 130km per hour on the highway but not more than 90 on our 80km highways?
It is possible for it to do what you want on minor highways but how would Tesla specify which highways or even part of which highways. Its a momentous task, 10s of thousands of man hours to identify areas to allow it in just the US. Cant even imagine what it would take world wide. Simple to just say +5 on non divided/limited access highways.
> Its not the cameras, its the computer analyzing the images of road ahead from 8 cameras and dozens of sensors. Think of it in terms of breaking distance. The faster you go the more time/distance you need to stop. Limited access highways are designed to allow faster speeds, have no pedestrians, no lights, no sharp curves, etc, etc.
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> It is possible for it to do what you want on minor highways but how would Tesla specify which highways or even part of which highways. Its a momentous task, 10s of thousands of man hours to identify areas to allow it in just the US. Cant even imagine what it would take world wide. Simple to just say +5 on non divided/limited access highways.
I can only speak from my experience, but there is an 80km road I take to the gym every day. It's very straight right up until the end where there is two very sharp corners right after each other. The car handles it no problem doing the max autopilot speed it allows. Itll slow right down and take both corners like a normal driver would. So I think it's very capable of doing so at fast speeds.
I assume it is however a safety thing like you mention about the stopping distance. In slippery road conditions it would be a bad idea to hit those corners going that fast. But it also would be a bad idea doing the corners at its current allowed speed on slippery roads.
I expect as time goes on the car will be able to read caution signs which tells drivers to slow down there is a sharp curve a head. Once it does that, I predict a faster auto pilot speed will be allowed.
I expect fsd to follow a similar path...a real rocky start followed by 2 years of rapid improvement.
Autopilot waits too long to brake for stoplights. I understand that there is a distance limitation ability, but it waits until a point where brake pad application is necessary whereas if i was the one driving i would let go of the accelerator and use 100% regen for braking.
Second, autopilot gives you a warning to either push accelerator pad or hit the gear shift level down to confirm going through a green light. But by the time that the notification pops up, its already engaging braking for the stoplight. You have to have extremely good reflexes and hit the gear shift level within a half second of the warning popping up on the screen to avoid braking. That being said, i will try using the accelerator pad because that might result in much more efficient reaction time, but you still have to hit it within a half second of the notification popping up on the screen. It does also give you a little "ding" noise, but 0.5s to react is way too short time to respond to avoid the vehicle engaging braking action.
That's not "AutoPilot" that is "Full Self Driving". Not surprising you don't know the difference as Tesla conflates the two also.
Future updates will allow removal of the confirmation.
Nope. AP does not include that feature. You are talking about Tesla's "Full Self Driving" feature.
https://www.tesla.com/model3/design#autopilot
Autopilot Included
Enables your car to steer, accelerate and brake automatically for other vehicles and pedestrians within its lane.
Full Self-Driving Capability
Navigate on Autopilot: automatic driving from highway on-ramp to off-ramp including interchanges and overtaking slower cars.
Auto Lane Change: automatic lane changes while driving on the highway.
Autopark: both parallel and perpendicular spaces.
Summon: your parked car will come find you anywhere in a parking lot. Really.
Traffic Light and Stop Sign Control: assisted stops at traffic controlled intersections.
1. Blind spot alert.
2. Lane keeping alert and assist.
3. Working adaptive cruise
4. Rear auto braking.
5. 360 degree view with improved proximity detection.
6. Rear cross traffic alert
Tesla does seem to degrade the AP functions to make FSD (at $10k option) attractive.
https://forums.tesla.com/discussion/181034/admins-wake-up-and-ban-fishev