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Grimes has Covid: who is next

https://www.businessinsider.in/entertainment/news/elon-musks-girlfriend-grimes-says-she-finally-got-covid/articleshow/80192576.cms

Obvious, if he spends any time at home.

BTW, have you had it/ got it?
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  • Flagged for spreading misinformation
  • Do they live together? Thought she was Canadian? Americans that I know who were dating Canadians had trouble getting into Canada due to Covid. They had to prove they were snowbirds and lived in her house in FL half the year and his house in Canada the other half before they let her in.
  • Covid is more like true influenza than a cold (IMO). A cold isn't likely to result in death if your health is compromised, true influenza can and does have devastating results for those with underlying health issues.

    What is BS are the statistics - if someone test's positive for covid at the time of death - it's classified as a covid death, even if the real cause is say - pneumonia, cancer, hear failure, etc. - you never saw this blame with other causes of death.

    Follow the money = There are many hero's that are out there fighting for your survival, and we owe them a debt of gratitude, but there are also many politician's, Dr.'s, Drug Company Exec, Insurance Co Execs, etc., that are making $$$ and gaining power on your fears [justified or not].

    -How many out there have read their life ins policy - many are null and void if your death is a result of a pandemic. - huge win for ins companies

    -When Covid is blamed - YOUR tax dollar subsidies kick in for the covid labeled part of your medical treatment - benefiting the hospitals and the ins companies.

    -Vaccine producing Drug Company CEO's are the newest billionaires

    And it goes far deeper than that.
  • > @Migizi said:
    > Covid is more like true influenza than a cold (IMO). A cold isn't likely to result in death if your health is compromised, true influenza can and does have devastating results for those with underlying health issues.
    >
    > What is BS are the statistics - if someone test's positive for covid at the time of death - it's classified as a covid death, even if the real cause is say - pneumonia, cancer, hear failure, etc. - you never saw this blame with other causes of death.
    >
    > Follow the money = There are many hero's that are out there fighting for your survival, and we owe them a debt of gratitude, but there are also many politician's, Dr.'s, Drug Company Exec, Insurance Co Execs, etc., that are making $$$ and gaining power on your fears [justified or not].
    >
    > -How many out there have read their life ins policy - many are null and void if your death is a result of a pandemic. - huge win for ins companies
    >
    > -When Covid is blamed - YOUR tax dollar subsidies kick in for the covid labeled part of your medical treatment - benefiting the hospitals and the ins companies.
    >
    > -Vaccine producing Drug Company CEO's are the newest billionaires
    >
    > And it goes far deeper than that.
    >
    >
    >

    Great information I would agree with most of it, not sure I could disagree with any of it
    True story, motor vehicle accident (rollover) driver died on scene due to ejection, cause of death, yes corona however alcohol was not a contributing factor.
    It’s all in the words you use for the betterment of your agenda when dealing with subsidies
  • its coming for you next ross
  • > @andy_connor_e said:
    > its coming for you next ross

    Lol... I for sure got exposed Saturday by CDC standards. The person who exposed me was confirmed positive this afternoon after waking up sick this morning.
  • > @andy_connor_e said:
    > its coming for you next ross

    We are Covid-free in my state
  • > @Darthamerica said:
    > Everyone. It’s like a cold
    I knew two people who would have disagreed with you except they died from Covid. However, the 5 people I know who were in the hospital (one still is) with covid and lived will disagree with you.
  • 2 dozen+ that I know is > 2 you know. That kind of lines up with the population at large. Strength in numbers.
  • Great. And because of her...the stock is tanking today.
  • Sad to hear that she's gotten it but glad to hear that she's weathering it okay.

    Hope their little one doesn't catch it from either of them.
  • > @DRFLGD said:
    > Great. And because of her...the stock is tanking today.

    How about you finally grow up and STOP BLAMING WOMEN FOR EVERYTHING?!
  • > @Migizi said:
    > What is BS are the statistics - if someone test's positive for covid at the time of death - it's classified as a covid death, even if the real cause is say - pneumonia, cancer, hear failure, etc. - you never saw this blame with other causes of death.
    > And it goes far deeper than that.
    >

    While I do not disagree with your assessment of the sort of windfall the emergence and spread of COVID-19 (or literally ANY disease) potentially is/stands to be for insurance agencies and pharmaceutical companies, I do have to disagree with your assessment of what you see as the deliberate mis-classification of 'cause of death' in COVID-related deaths (to 'up' the mortality numbers?) as a contributing factor can, and often is, the actual decisive factor in whether someone lives or dies in the case of preexisting conditions given the fact that an individual is often able to live out the entirety of their lives despite being afflicting with a debilitating disease with the aid of routine treatment/medication, that is, but for the onset of an unforeseen complication that manages to undermine even the best of treatment options/regimens.
  • @Migizi

    Such as COVID-19.
  • > @"blue adept" said:
    > > @DRFLGD said:
    > > Great. And because of her...the stock is tanking today.
    >
    > How about you finally grow up and STOP BLAMING WOMEN FOR EVERYTHING?!

    Good one, skippy.
  • @blue adept

    here is one example
    https://canadafreepress.com/article/the-cdc-confesses-to-lying-about-covid-19-death-numbers
  • > @Migizi said:
    > @blue adept
    >
    > here is one example
    > https://canadafreepress.com/article/the-cdc-confesses-to-lying-about-covid-19-death-numbers
    >

    Bad Reference. This is from April 6. Up until that time the CDC knew a lot of cases were being misdiagnosed as causes other than Covid. Covid was so new, doctors were diagnosing things like pneumonia, which they knew and has some similar symptoms. As we have learned since April 6, the doctors and CDC were significantly underestimating the cases and deaths. The article is from Canada Free Press which is known for publishing far right wing conspiracy theories. The author spins a normal practice of basing cause of death on symptoms (no autopsy), and turns it into CDC confesses to lying.
    It is true that death certificates are often wrong. However, in the case of Covid-19 a lot of extra care has been taken to get the numbers right.
  • any time someone disagrees with a web source - they call it right wing or left wing and add the label conspiracy theory - or some other defamation to further their opposition.

    your interpretation of the information in that video is normal for those who want to believe in the scamdemic conspiracy.
  • Also -

    Here is an EXACT quote from the CDC's Vital Statistics Reporting Guidance

    "In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely."

    so YES - cause of death can, on often is misreported as fact when it is really a guess
  • one more rebuttal...

    "The author spins a normal practice of basing cause of death on symptoms (no autopsy), and turns it into CDC confesses to lying. "

    that 'spin' as you call it is a direct sample [scenario III to be exact] in the CDC's Vital Statistics Reporting Guidance
  • +100 @Migizi
  • > @Tesla2018 said:
    > Do they live together? Thought she was Canadian? Americans that I know who were dating Canadians had trouble getting into Canada due to Covid.

    Elon Musk is a Canadian citizen.
  • > @DRFLGD said:
    > Good one, skippy.

    It's only the truth. ¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯
  • > @Migizi said:
    > Also -
    >
    > Here is an EXACT quote from the CDC's Vital Statistics Reporting Guidance
    >
    > "In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate as “probable” or “presumed.” In these instances, certifiers should use their best clinical judgement in determining if a COVID–19 infection was likely."
    >
    > so YES - cause of death can, on often is misreported as fact when it is really a guess

    The quote is correct. Key point "the circumstances are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty". These are not just guesses. Sometimes they do get it wrong. In the case of covid they have made extra effort to get it right. Causes fo death are often not black and white, some human judgement enters in. CDC did not say they inflated numbers as the article states. As we have learned since April 6, the number of cases misdiagnosed early on actually kept the covid counts lower than actual, not inflated, because they were still trying to figure out how to diagnose Covid, so they used other known illnesses such as pneumonia. Since April, the counts have been quite accurate.
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