I can't help but think that WiTricity and Tesla would go together pretty well. This would eliminate the need to have a plugin (mostly). I am little surprised there is not more discussion regarding this application since WiTricity is actively seeking out OEMs. Since some power might be lost 5-10%, this would make charging more expensive, but I think it would be pretty useful.
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All I can think of is that Tesla Motors cannot afford to signup with a company that is going to have issues. Whether or not WiTricity will have issues is certainly a question. Even more important (from my viewpoint) is that wireless transmission of power has been around for a LONG time, there just hasn't been any application until now.
If I had to bet, Elon is doing his own version. Think about it. Tesla did it, and now...supercharging stations. Stations? Like in "radio stations?". I envision a letter. Written by Mr. Musk offering a "retro-fitting of all customer's Tesla cars for $9000. Call us!"
The conversion of supercharging stations towards taking solar collected power and transmitting it over the electro-magnetic spectrum is DEFINITELY coming. Just a matter of time....
Tesla (the person) didn't do what WiTricity does (magnetic resonance coupling), that's quite new invention in that area of technology. It requires alignment of the coils so that they face each other properly so not only distance, but also which way they are "pointing" affects the efficiency, but with proper alignment you can transfer energy at greater distance efficiently than without resonance coupling. This makes possible to build charging "roads" (slow roads work better than fast ones, busy intersections and that sort of things, those are expensive to construct so extra cost of chargers doesn't show that much. Other good one are parking lots, no cables = no vandalism and no hassle).
Automatic wireless charging for future hybrid and all-electric passenger and commercial vehicles, at home, in parking garages, at fleet depots, and at remote kiosks.
Direct wireless power interconnections to replace costly vehicle wiring harnesses and slip rings.
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About your suggestions of using "Variable algorithmic data compression" for energy transfers; doable but really really stupid. I give you one guess why.
Ok, I'll bite. Why? Is it because you don't think I understand the fundamental differences between "data" and "energy", or is it because I didn't adequatedly describe the theoretical feasibility of using passworded rolling key encryption to initiate and measure IP Multicast (sparse dense mode-"back and forth") transmissions of packets to properly calibrate the amounts of energy requested and recieved? It would be kind of similar to the counters we have watched while we pump the gas into our tanks. Before: No pay, no gas. AC? No key, no juice. It is very possible, and I don't understand your condescension. I was teaching this stuff 20 years ago before anyone had even heard of "the cloud"...
I used to show those "black boxes" beating Michael Bloomberg's T-1 speeds by 30 seconds on the open and close. A marketmaker's dream. But if you didn't integrate something like that to calibrate the usage, the big boys would shoot it down by the fact of who they are and what they can do. It seems like you do know what I am talking about. If you want to have a discussion, let me know. Thanks.
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That's wireless (RF) and has been for 20 years. Real-time Market Quotes in a handheld portable device. In "Real-time"? How? Compress it, and don't pull in a "broadcast" (ugh), use "request/send" and the cloud w/packets.
uh, Timo...? > Radio Frequency (RF) with Variable Algorithmic Data Compression to permission and quantify "with greater EFFICIENCY in REAL TIME???
Gee...what does all this mean? It means you can casually type in a Customer number into your handheld portable device, and that will sync an encrypted passcode to the Supercharging Station, thereby dispensing AC Power in a calibrated fashion through the marraige of packeted compressed data ("electronic boxcars") transmitted in IP Multicast to continually permission and quantify the dispersement of AC Power to the specified receiver (in your car). Broadcast vs. Multicast. Broadcast vs. PACKETS over the cloud. I was beta-testing a Motorola (wireless) Phone in 1999. I was on a Bart Train watching Ronin in > 30 FPS. People were in shock. You see, the USA has technological bottlenecks, and Oracle began the campaign towards fixing them years ago. The delivery/speed issues with our proprietary IP Multicast with VADC are what led to viable 4G networks. Yep.
Wireless Power only over short distances? I'm not going to break down all of the inherint "one dimensional" misunderstandings behind that commment. Anyone ever heard of Wimax. pretty old stuff, just a question to stimulate thought.
Oh...and before everyone runs out to file a process patent,its been done. So relax and enjoy the ride. Elon is a 3-dimensional thinker...I'm sure he is already on this.
So who's "stupid" now Timo?
Anytime you want to compare PHDs and Bios, let me know.
Apparently that. Efficient wireless energy transfer can be done only on very short distances. It also requires "antennas" that are resonance coupled which means no variable frequencies. It isn't same as data transfer.
And as for you Vawlkus, you're not even really on the same planet are you? How can you really expect to understand Physics and energy/data transmissions over the Electromagnetic Spectrum with an electronics technician handbook and a Star Trek communicator? You're not fooling anybody. So, when Nova Scotia finally warms up, go outside, and get some fresh air.
And before you throw a temper tantrum, I'm not listening. Infact, is anyone listening to you? Besides your cat I mean...
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I don't mean to sound blunt, but you really don't seem to know what you are talking about. If you really have PHD in that area I suggest you take a bit time to catch up where this tech is currently going. Otherwise you sound like a old teacher stuck in past and more than little bit crazy.
Yes, I went on the offense, because I don't like being called stupid. And now it seems I'm the guy to attack. Ok. Fine. I do apologize. I am excited about what Tesla is doing, and my background is in data transfer. I don't know everything about everything, and I probably said too much. So please forgive me, and I'll forgive the everyone else. And I am saying goodbye to this forum. Seems I don't fit in, and that's ok. Bye guys.
Those things you said about Vawlkus were very bad and very much unwarranted, so for that I will not miss you. Be well and be gone.
A special kind of paint is being developed. This paint has got the ability to turn sunlight into electricity (just like solar panels). This could be extremely helpfull for all Electric Vehicles. Because the car will be charging itself during daylight. I think this is a great idea. Don't you think so?
Maybe in 2050.