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Company survival depends on marketing

edited November -1 in Model S
In my travels around southern Calif it is SHOCKING how many people have no idea about Tesla. The survival of the company IMHO lies with marketing.
Since the company is relying on word of mouth I would humbly suggest each car delivered come with 10-20 brochures. When people ask about the car (and trust me they DO)
hand out the brochures...... Word of mouth alone is tough and it will save you a lt if talking which after a while gets old.
Southern Calif is more car savvy then most places and the level of awareness here is alarmingly low.
What do you think?
Power to the people!


  • edited November -1
    I'm sure Tesla's marketing will ramp up as the waiting list ramps down. Can't imagine they would rely on word-of-mouth sales if they're not meeting max factory production.

    But, it never hurts to hand out brochures, as you mentioned.
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    Whenever I go by the Tesla store here in Denver it's packed with people checking out the S and Roadster. Seeing several on the roads also. I get the looks and questions all the time. I think one or two timely placed TV adds would sky rocket the interest.I know it costs money but you have to spend to make. The car sells itself when you get in and take a ride. They might have to reconsider the $5K deposit to get a spin.
  • edited November -1
    I know the Tesla store I went to near Seattle, you did NOT have to have a reservation to go on a test drive. The only thing the reservation got you was unlimited test drives.
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    Trust me, anyone who doesn't know about Tesla at this point, couldn't afford one right now anyway.

    At this point, Tesla is better off spending their money on refining quality, adding more service centers, and making their charging infrastructure larger. They already have more demand than cars available (which no other car company on Earth can tout).

    When Gen III comes, that will be the time to spend the money on advertising (print ad, commercials, billboards, etc). Also, when Gen III get's going, average folk will look up Tesla, and read about the fastest and most amazing super-car on Earth (the Model S) and say to themselves... "OMG, I didn't know I could afford one of those?!?!?!!!!". The rest will be history.
  • edited November -1
    I am with TikiMan. I suspect that Tesla knows exactly what they need to do. If they saw a dramatic drop in reservations they surely would start advertising. Given their order book they can afford to save that money. The car sells itself - at least for now.
  • edited November -1
    they could do online ads
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    Tesla is using their marketing budget to build out the Supercharger network. They don't need to market the car as long as they already have all 20,000+ cars mostly sold for 2013. I'm sure they will start to market the car once the world-wide reservations start to get filled. That will be around the time the Supercharger stations are mostly built out and they can convert those dollars to marketing.

    @kal-el I agree with you that an inexpensive youtube video would be great however.

    @celtrog I have had my S in So Cal almost a month and have had no strangers approach me about the car. I keep brochures in my trunk. All my friends have driven it but the locals don't seem to curious about it. I think most around here already know about it.
  • edited November -1
    IMO the company survival depends on how fast they can bring $35K car with 300+ mile range to the market.
  • edited November -1
    I started with a 4 inch stack of brochures. Half are gone already. They fit perfectly in the cubby under the 17"screen. They go flying under moderate accelleration though.
    I don't think that there is any shortage of new customers on the horizon yet.
  • edited November -1
    ALL other auto co.s would kill for TM's word-of-mouth. There is no more effective form of promotion or advertising. They jump through hoops identifying "opinion leaders" and trying to get them to talk their products up. For TM, it happens spontaneously.
  • edited November -1
    I think having these cars out in the wild is all the marketing they need. I've had mine for about 3 weeks and practically every time I take it for a spin it's getting ogled. Sometimes people want to stop and chat about it in parking lots, but more often its just people snapping pictures or turning their heads. And I live in California, so it's not like these things are rare around here... one time I saw three other Teslas (another S and two roadsters) while on a 2 mile drive to the grocery.
  • edited November -1
    I can vouch for that. I have roadster #447 with 50,000 miles and saw three Model S on way to airport today.

    Word of mouth is very effective. I've given 100s of rides to captive audiences :)

    We have 300 people at our office in Sunnyvale and 15+ are commuting to work in 100% EVs. That's 5% and growing every month.
    This includes 2 roadsters, 1 Model S, a Volt, a plugin Prius and a bunch of Leafs. We have 10 level 2 chargers.

    Word of mouth IS the most effective advertising. So get some brochures and spread the word!
  • edited November -1
    Marketing will become more important but not today,
    what is the use to marketing, increase demand if your supply can not meet it...

    best would be to to focus/invest now on quality and adding some cool features (and on the Press) and bump up the marketing engine as they see that supply will outpace than order intake... IMHO
  • edited November -1
    I think Tesla could put a sign with battery size and price information at the superchargers. This way people that are interested that happen to drive by can get an idea how much the car costs. Got a full charge at a supercharger today and a person had stopped to talk to me getting information on the car. Price was one of the questions asked. If a sign were there, then they wouldn't have gotten such a price shock at how much my car was. Haha.

    Also, from reading the forums here and at TMC, if the delivery and/or pick up processes are more in sync, I believe there would be more customer satisfaction. They wouldn't have the problem of some customers receiving screen protectors and some not; some with badges and some not, some with new unwrapped charger cables, and some not; some with fobs still in plastic bags and some not. These are minor issues, but to a person whose biggest car investment is this Model S, these minor things could sweeten the delivery or make it a little sour.

    Right now, I wouldn't try to persuade anyone to purchase the Model S, but I would encourage people to test drive the car to make sure of what they can expect out of the car, the pluses and minuses.
  • edited November -1
    The MS owners are indeed the best marketing for the company right now. Yes, I also agree that creating the Supercharger network is a good use of funds at this time. But trust me, the public is a mighty fickle lot. Brand recognition is key, but so is building a future pipeline of demand. The guys out there planning to purchase the BMWs, Mercedes, Audis, Jaguars, etc. today ARE the future of Tesla. We need to grab a bunch of them on a consistent, annual basis.

    I'm sure there are a bunch of people a lot smarter than me at headquarters who are thinking the same.
  • cb9cb9
    edited November -1
    @kal-el I really like the "gallons of light" YouTube commercial that was on tesla's FB page a while back.

    So, if we all posted that on our FB pages and said "share if you love the earth" (or whatever, there's a reason I am *not* in marketing) that could be a pretty effective (and free) campaign.

    +1 to everyone who says no point in spending money to advertise when they have a nice backlog. But that doesn't mean we can't help them with enthusiast-driven social media to help them keep that backlog strong and turn a profit sooner.
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    TRUST ME... Those who can afford a high-end luxury vehicle, know about Tesla, and the Model S. I haven't run across one person who is a TRUE car-person who didn't know what I was driving. In fact, the majority of the nods and kudos I get are from other high-end luxury vehicle owners like myself.

    Car buying isn't a blind decision, and most that opt to buy a high-end luxury $60k+ vehicle, know what is what in the marketplace. In fact, the majority of us who own a high-end luxury vehicle know more about the industry than the dealers who sell them.

    Besides, where I live, I am 100% sure all the BMW, Porsche, MB, Jag, Audi, etc are taking SERIOUS notice when they see a fantastic looking high-end luxury vehicle zip passing them in the HOV lane, with only one occupant in the drivers seat. I am positive many of them are either shaking their fist with envy, or kicking themselves as to how stupid they feel sitting in 5 MPH traffic in a $100k vehicle, that costing them $200.00 (USD) a week to fuel and maintain, so they can feel like a complete idiot knowing all that money didn't buy them any real privileges, other than innate bragging rights to things they will never do in their expensive car, unless they move to Germany. (I know this, because I was that person a few years ago seeing a Tesla Roadster blast past me).
  • edited November -1
    @TikiMan, re: "Trust me, anyone who doesn't know about Tesla at this point, couldn't afford one right now anyway."

    I have to disagree with you. I live in Marin County, CA (Across Golden Gate Bridge from San Francisco). There are enough Teslas here (I see multiple daily) that there is a service center in San Rafael (centrally located in the county) and have had the car for less than a week and have been approached by 3 people who I'm pretty sure could afford it based on what they were driving and they had no idea who tesla was and were shocked when I told them it was a plug-in EV.

    It certainly would have been helpful had there been a stack of brochures delivered with the car, I would have passed out 3 already in less than a week and expect more inquiries to come.
  • edited November -1
    The companies survival depends on getting the delivery process smooth with no hassles. I don't think they are there yet. Once they start getting to the everyday car buyer Tesla will start getting a bad rap if the customer has to wait on parts, charging doesn't work because of a bad cord, car is not clean, paperwork for plates is late, inspection stickers not present (in states it's needed), and much more.

    I think the have everything before delivery down pretty good.
  • edited November -1
    It seems to me that there is still a fair amount of ignorance about EV's in general. Common things I hear from right leaning people I know:

    1) The energy required to make a new vehicle/battery far exceeds what is saved by driving an EV. You'd be more environmental by driving an old gas guzzler until it falls apart.

    I'm very skeptical about this one for many reasons. It's not exactly energy efficient to drill for oil and transport it all over the country either. This is aside from the fact that the less foreign oil we buy, the better. Not to mention the fact that there is no reason we can't have our manufacturing plants using less energy (solar powered production facilities)...

    2) Many people will charge their cars using coal powered grids. This may be true but at least it's not foreign oil. I live in DFW and I have been on wind energy for many years, which a lot of people don't even know is available here.

    3) "Our government has no business supporting car companies or funding clean energy"
    I would disagree with this one, and the plan to pay back govt. loans early is a huge selling point on why it's a viable plan.

    I know I'm preaching to the choir here but I am on several different forums where this topic has been brought up and these are the criticisms which have been brought up repeatedly. I believe they are ignorant, I don't quite have any hard evidence to disprove #1 however. So should marketing be geared to win the "naysayers" over? Or is it safe to assume these people will slowly be won over, and some are just too darn stubborn to ever change? I have a family member who is a hard core Republican, he got to drive one and he was blown away. He is a huge fan.

    Oil has been a huge part of our culture for a very long time. At least here in the south, there are a lot of people who are stubbornly opposed (and in many cases ignorant) about clean energy. I'm not sure if these people should even be targeted with marketing or how to do so. But it seems to me that the progressive people I know who are passionate about clean energy/environmental issues already know about Tesla, and others just haven't made an effort or don't have an open mind......
  • edited November -1
    One other thought I had: A great ad campaign would revolve around the fact that Tesla is growing fast---and putting people to work. No matter what your political leanings are, this is something people support and might even make some right leaning people open their minds to learn a bit about Tesla.

    (Of course the ad should also feature the incredible vehicle itself)
  • lphlph
    edited November -1
    I don't think it will be long before Tesla get its crash rating. Knowing how well engineered the car is, I suspect that there will be another round of free marketing (via press) when they find out that it is the safest car you can buy.
  • edited November -1
    All they should do is run the Supercharging ad by Jordan Bloch!!!

    Just show your friends that!! They should run it on hulu, people watch those ads!!!
  • edited November -1
    First impressions are the last impression.

    Their survival depends on taking care of all the risk takers that have kept them afloat when the rest of the world did not believe in them. We are their best advertising agency or their worst nightmare depending on our experiences.
  • edited November -1
    TM will advertise when new owners stop recruiting more new owners at less than about a 2:1 ratio.

    Not gonna happen anytime soon.
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