Model X

Roof Rack System possible?

edited February 2014 in Model X
Would Falcon Wings work with a Roof Rack System?

(It's $519.00 for Model S):


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If a roof rack can be installed on the Model X, I hope there's a sensor system that disable the Falcon Wings when there's a luggage on the roof.

On the other hand, by looking at the Falcon Wings design, probably, Model X is not designed for Roof Rack System.

In that case, Model S is more of a work horse as it can carry mattresses and luggage on its Roof Rack System.

Can any one speculate on Model X Roof Rack capability please?
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  • edited November -1
    Highly doubtful with those doors. Definitely a big complaint amongst prospective owners that like doing outdoor stuff.
  • edited November -1
    Only the front doors would be usable with that design.
  • edited November -1
    A Tesla rep told me that he thinks the falcon wings might be optional.
  • edited November -1
    Are you seriously thinking of using a $100,000 car to carry a mattress on the roof? What is your problem?!!! The point is to convey the occupants in style, with lots of comfort, cool features, and entertaining technology; NOT tote junk.

    The Model S is not a station wagon, SUV, minivan, or a truck. Those are vehicles suited for doing such deeds.

    The Model X is like the Porsche Cayenne or Range Rover Sport. People don't actually use those to haul stuff in. They are fast, large luxury conveyances for the well to do.

    The drag caused by large objects on the roof of the Model S or X would drastically reduce the range making long trips impossible. The 60kWh Model S already gets 208 miles per chare. The Model X 60kWh which will be 10% less efficient will only have a 187-mile range, not counting reductions.
  • edited November -1
    Samuel - An $80,000 SUV that can't carry a surfboard, kayak, or skis is impractical. Now I have to buy another car if I want to carry my kayak? The $80,000 SUV should be able to handle all my needs. If people want to reduce their range efficiency by hauling something, that's their choice, except that with the design of the X, it actually ISN'T their choice, and it's going to negatively affect sales unless they come up with a solution for it.

    The falcon wings should be an option for $10K more or something. I'd rather have regular doors with more versatility for less $$$.
  • edited November -1
    I think at this point, regular doors will cost 10k more.
  • edited November -1
    @Samuel

    I hate "luxury" cars because I thought they are impractical.

    I am fan of Bjørn's youtube that showed he was hauling pretty much everything in his Model S in the cold winter of Norway.

    He's featured on Tesla's site:

    http://www.teslamotors.com/customers/story-bjorn-nyland


    He was sleeping in his Model S and also hauling live pigeons with feathers flying all over :)

    I want a practical electric car, not a luxury electric car.

    Until Tesla can produce an electric truck, I am not going to complain about the practical aspect of Model S and X :)
  • edited November -1
    Elon talked about this recently, skis can be mounted on the roof on the thin strip between the falcon doors or stuff them inside. Assume the same is true for a kayak if slotted sideways.
  • edited November -1
    Hmm, maybe a hinged rig that lifts somewhat with the doors? Ingeneers are engenious. Or SLT.
  • edited November -1
    As Iowa92x mentioned above, in a recent town hall discussion ( I believe in Norway) , Elon assured the audience that he is well aware of the need, and he said it will be possible to transport ski's on the roof.
  • edited November -1
    @Iowa92x and @David N

    Thanks. Does it sounds like Elon has partially solved the the demand for roof rack system by allowing the option as long as it does not interfere with the function of Falcon Wings?

    Does it sound like the rook racks will be a very thin strip between the wings which will not accommodate any thing wider than skis only. And of course, the size of the skis has to fit.

    Could any one analyze the photo and see whether the inter-wing space is plenty for all sizes of skis (kids as well as adults?)


    <img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--TuyShbOQno/UwCnVYs5e2I/AAAAAAAABe0/6fiNv27lUsM/w622-h672-no/ModelXSmallRoofRack.jpg&quot; width="640"/>
  • edited November -1
    No. It is not enough room for skis. Maybe Nordic skis but certainly not alpine skis that are nearly as wide as snowboards now. Even if the rack folds up with the doors there's not enough room for bindings in there.

    I remain very skeptical regarding this roof rack that Elon says they have and I will remain so until I can actually use it myself or see a detailed demonstration. I just don't see how they can make it work.
  • edited November -1
    Oh and I don't want one side of the doors disabled to use the rack. That is entirely too inconvenient.
  • edited November -1
    I believe the skis are intended to go onto the roof in a vertical position (On the side rather than flat. If two are strapped together they will fit.) Also, the dimensions of the top of the doors may change slightly for the final production model.
  • edited November -1
    Without pictures it's hard to visualize what you're describing exactly. Let me put some numbers to it though. I just measured my skis. My wide pair is about 5.5 inches across at the tips and just shy of 6 inches at the brakes (when deployed because there's no boot in them). And they are not the widest on the market. Also, with both skis strapped together base to base the wide part is at the binding heel and the narrowest pair is about nine inches across at this point.

    If I had to estimate using the picture above I would say that gap between the fully open falcon doors is 5, maybe six inches.

    Snowboards are even wider still but maybe with the bindings folded flat are thinner in that dimension.

    I just don't see skis fitting up there in any way.

    Cheers!
  • edited November -1
    An actress could have easily ordered a delivery of an purchased item instead of hauling things in her vehicle.

    However, as you can see, actress Hayden Panettiere was activating her Porsche Cayenne's fob as her brother was carrying a mattress to the SUV.


    Who says luxury SUV must be impractical?


    http://www.justjared.com/2008/07/31/hayden-panettiere-parking-ticket/


    <img src="http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/panettiere-ticket/hayden-panettiere-parking-ticket-05.jpg&quot; width="640"/>
  • edited November -1
    Folks, if Tesla can invent the Model S and X, they can surely find a solution for hauling skis on/in the X.
  • edited November -1
    Problem with in the middle of falcon doors solution is that it allows only for one set of skis at maximum. Most of the time ppl carry more than one set.
  • edited November -1
    TM engineers started a rumor some time ago that they had a brilliant secret solution.
  • edited November -1
  • edited November -1
    And this too which lifts straight up:

    <img src="http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=43496&quot; width="600">
  • edited November -1
    I am looking at getting a MX and did not think of the roof rack problem because I never intended to use one but I might still want the option. The roof rack that rises up is the first thing I thought of when I heard about this potential problem. I think this would be the most simple
  • edited November -1
    I think a hitch with a cantilever platform would work better than a roof rack.

    I don't recall the last time I actually saw an SUV with a roof rack. There is huge amounts of room inside. (especially the X, with the frunk!)

    If there was a Tesla designed hitch/platform, then they can design it with aerodynamics in mind to reduce the drag that usually is produced.
  • edited November -1
    I currently own a BMW SUV and yes I use my vehicle for outdoor activities such as kite boarding, towing my boat, transporting my kevlar canoe on the roof and carrying 2 x 4 lumber every now and then. I am looking very much forward to upgrading to a Model X later this year but it better have the basic skill set my my current SUV has, which includes a roof rack (just like very SUV currently out in the marketplace). This is just a very obvious requirement, otherwise count me out.
  • edited November -1
    A roof rack and towing capacity(even if greatly reduced) are a must have in my opinion. We have had our model S for about 6 months now and the mileage driven on our Cayanne has dropped dramatically, however it is our go to vehicle for ski trips.
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