Model X


edited November -1 in Model X
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Ordering and Delivery

The Tesla Model S is a different kind of "premium" automobile. Many creature comforts and assists are not available at this time: adaptive cruise control, lane departure warning, blind spot warning, speed warning, grab handles, lighted vanity mirrors, adjustable seat belts and some others. But, for the money, you get the most technologically advanced automobile ever made; one that defies labels. Take it for what it is.

After ordering go to the top of this page and click on BUY and then WHAT TO EXPECT. The timeline from ordering until delivery is clearly laid out.

VIN assignment is unpredictable. However, you will get it in plenty of time.

Here's the link to the Owner's Manual:

Taking delivery soon? Take along the Delivery Checklist. It is a very valuable resource: (Created by nickjhowe)

60? 85? P? +? Consensus is to buy what you can afford. Regrets are mostly from those who didn't stretch.

Air or Coil? Sound or Standard? It's like Vanilla or Chocolate. For softest ride: 19" + Air.
For an in-depth discussion of Air vs. Coil go here:

Charging and Range

Road trip charging resources:

Experiment with travel conditions and range at

For a discussion about charger options at the workplace go here:

To get a Supercharger where you want one go here:

Supercharger location reviews by owners can be found here:

Recommended level of charge is between 50%-62%. Only max charge when absolutely necessary. Do not go below 10 Miles To Go unless necessary. Always keep car plugged in when not in use when possible. Many discussion threads on this topic.

Great resource on plugs and adapters by shop found here: Made Adapters.pdf

ICE (Internal Combustion Engine) cars sometimes block EV (Electric Vehicle) charging spots.
BEV (Battery Electric Vehicle) cars sometimes use charging spots as parking spots.

For EV etiquette go here:

For Local Electric Vehicle Incentives look here:

For an explanation about kWh and Wh/mile go here

If you find yourself forgetting to close the charge port door try this: Pull out the adapter with your left hand and close the port with your right. It's a more natural motion.

Operations and Troubleshooting

Have a problem after delivery? Call Ownership (877-798-3752) and also post it.

Restarting solves many problems. If gremlins appear, press and hold both scroll wheels for 10 seconds to reset MCU (Can be done in motion). Hold both buttons above scroll wheel to reset dash (You can do this while driving just be aware you will lose the speedometer for about 10 seconds.).

Energy Savings Mode is the only toggle for sleep modes. If you have sleep mode on, after so many hours of inactivity, the car will enter deep sleep.

If car won't wake up press on brake, hard, and do the scroll wheel thing.

The brake lights illuminate during regenerative braking. The amount of regen needed to trigger the brake lights is not exact, but if your car is slowing "as if" you pressed the brake the lights will illuminate. You can check this at night through the rear view camera or hit the battery icon. The lights on the representation reflect the lights that are on in the car.

Test Brakes After Rain or Wash: Many have found wet brakes and wet conditions lead to poor brake response when starting out. Consensus is to brake hard twice to condition rotors.

21" tires have had wear issues. Read lolachampcar's excellent survey on what you can expect:

Blind Spot Elimination can be achieved by adjusting your rear view mirrors like this:‐View-Mirrors-to-Eliminate-Blind-Spots

Forget about hands at 10 and 2. Put your hands at 9 and 3 and you'll have the directional lever at your fingertips.

Avoid the dreaded frunk crease. Close the frunk as shown at the 2 minute mark here:

Door handles will NOT auto present after 24 hours of inactivity. Also, cell phones can interfere with fob to car communication. Don't keep them in the same pocket.

Preheating the car in frigid temps is essential for windows and doors. Allow 15-20 minutes before departure.

Orange dotted lines on your speedometer are due to limited charging capability (regen) or limited power output (go). This can be because of a cold or full battery for the former, and cold or a low battery for the latter.

For cool web screens such as a 007 Control Panel, go to For a really nice Tesla themed clock go to

For an explanation as to why there are no Rear Guidelines read ir's explanation halfway down in this thread:

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Complain vertically. First initial+last name will get you everyone but Elon. ([email protected]) And be persistent. Upper management wants you to be completely satisfied.

There is no spare tire. SEARCH for solutions.


The car comes with a 4 year 50,000 mile warranty. An extended warranty (ESA) is available to purchase up to 30 days AFTER your initial warranty expires.

The SERVICE plan, if you pre-purchase it, gets you 4 annual services for $1900. The mileage is not a factor with the service plan but you have to use the service plan once a calendar year or lose it. If you don't pre-purchase it a comparable service visit will cost $600.00. It is not necessary to have an annual service to keep the warranty in force.

Here's an idea of what's involved in an annual service as posted by jordan_richard "To summarize, they essentially take the car apart and inspect all the nuts bolts and replace if any corrosion is spotted. They actually make recordings of the sound from the various pumps and upload it to the data base in Freemont, for comparison. The list goes on and on. If something does need replacing it gets replaced, but the service is still $600. In other words, it's an extensive inspection but they don't call you afterwards and say we found this and that and it will cost "X" more to fix it."

Highly Recommended Reading "Owning Model S" by Nick J. Howe "Tesla Model S - Best Car Ever!" by Frank van Gilluwe and Kim Rogers

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For a look at the progress Tesla Motors (TM) has made on improvements take a look at the punch list started in July 2012 by ddruz:

Tesla built a car not a perpetual motion machine. Solar panels, wind turbines and super magnets are not going to change that.

Updates, New Products, Announcements, Fulfillments

Members of this Forum are not privy to ANY time frames of ANY changes to ANY part of Tesla's production.

All of these are "coming soon." (For those of you not immersed in the Tesla universe "soon" can best be defined as that time in the future a nanosecond before pigs fly or hell freezes over. One noted poster explained it thusly: a month to Elon is like two months here on Earth.)

If You Need Any More Convincing

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  • edited May 16
    I did the latest Tesla update where you can have a Dashcam viewer. I called support and they emailed the Usb specifications that I needed to order. They recommended a 64 GB 3.1 USB
    I have a Windows computer and when I went to format it to Fat32, the maximum a Windows computer formats to Fat32 is a 32 GB. I had to buy a new 32 GB Usb and now it is working. I wasted a considerable amount of time figuring this out.
  • edited November -1
    2014 entry brought back from the dead - likely anielsardi is a copy and paste bot getting ready to spam links.

    There is a more up to date list that JT wrote:

    Note that "To SEARCH click here (created by nickjhowe.)" has been dead for at least a year. I have a lot more here:
  • edited May 25
    2020 Model X: when it has been sitting outside in the heat like in a parking lot at the store, it sounds like a very loud fan comes on when you start going with the AC on it’s not the blower fan that cools the cabin. It sounds like a jet engine is starting to spool up and you can feel the vibration in the steering wheel and brake pedal. When you accelerate the fan goes faster and when you turn-off the AC completely the sound goes away completely. Is there a loud fan that comes on to cool the batteries down? What could this be? It’s really really loud and interferes with listening to the radio. So much for the quiet ride we were enjoying
  • edited May 26
    @deb - It's the HVAC compressor. It's a variable speed design - so it makes some more noise when it has to work hard to cool the cabin or battery. Once the cabin or battery is cooled, it spins down and makes far less noise.

    Most ICE cars also have a noisy compressor, but the engine noise is so much louder, you rarely notice it.
  • edited May 28
    On another positive note, it is MUCH better now! My Founders edition initially sounded like an airplane engine each time it turned on. They eventually figured out a rerouting of some plumbing along with more sound deadening insulation worked. They made the same changes on the factory line and are much quieter now. Mine was MUCH better after they completed the work.
  • edited May 28
    @Redmiata98 - Yep, I had that done as well. I think they put the changes into production around mid-2013, so I didn't bring it up for @deb. Useful info for those of us with very early cars.
  • edited May 31
    Ever since the March updates through to the latest update a few days ago my Dash Cam will only save clips when the icon is pressed, or when I honk horn (with the feature turned on). Haven't seen any Sentry mode clips even with notice that there was an event. When I set up an appointment to have it checked, the service center (after texting me about it) said it was working per the specifications and that I had a bad thumb drive. I have used 3 different drives including the one listed in the manual as verified to work with dash-cam. Service center said all they could do was plug in their own drive, and if the icon came up properly it would be considered good
  • edited November -1
    Sure it was a typo, my Founder’s was delivered Jan”16. But, it IS fixed now!
  • edited June 10
    My Model X drops into park occasionally when in reverse at very low speed?
    Any thoughts?
  • edited June 11
    @Wbplefty - This happens when you lift your butt off the seat - likely when turning around to see behind you. A few others have encountered it.
  • Hi I've got a Tesla Model x 75d ( only dome 15000 miles) and today I have a problem with the charge set slider. It only registers the mileage and that is then the set limit - only that - and so when you plug it in a charger it says fully charged whether it is 182 miles or I fear 23 miles. The slider no longer works basically and it won't charge. The only difference to my normal schedule was yesterday it was low and I plugged the charger in the trunk into the mains at a friends house to get 15 miles. That night on my home charger it charged but only hit 185 mile limit when before it was 196 miles. And after driving locally I realised the charge systems is not working. Any ideas? tech people haven't got back to me.
  • edited June 15
    @imogenstubbs - Not sure I quite understand you. If you use schedule charging at home, it will not start charging until that time you selected. In some cases it can get interrupted, such as during a software update or a power interruption, in which case the charging stops. The next night it should be fine. When you go to another location, it will start charging as soon as you plug in.

    The set limit control is just a graphical slider. There is no miles or percent indicator - although you can guess at the percentage.

    Anyway, I wouldn't read anything into a single night not charging quite what you expected. Check it a few nights in a row.
  • When should I start worrying that I have been overlooked for the recent autopilot software update. It came out about 2 months ago. I have a one year old model X with the autopilot upgrade.
  • edited June 22
    Two months can be normal. Perhaps after 3 months, I might get a little concerned. If you're not on WiFi, see if you can get it set up - it has priority for updates. Map updates are only made via WiFi. Now WiFi can be difficult if your car is not close to your abode.
  • edited June 28
    I noticed that I can post comments to pre-existing threads, but cannot create an entirely new thread. Is this expected? I've sent an email to [email protected] to get my ownership verified for forum posting. Numerous times.
  • edited June 28
    @njhtran - Tesla owners can create threads and flag spam posts. There are also regional sections that only owners can see. I expect with COVID, the email process has been really backed up. Hopefully, they will get to it and get you owner's status.
  • Is it possible to perform a search within this forum? I tried the link in the original post and it looks like the link is no longer active.
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