Model S

Reverse Camera Guidelines Not Quite Right

edited November -1 in Model S
Finally, reverse camera guidelines have been added to the latest software! Too bad the implementation is not quite right.

ISSUES
* guides are wimpy and barely noticeable
* guides are grey in night mode and blend perfectly with the concrete when I'm backing out of my garage.
* guide placements are narrower than my car so I can't use the screen to backup into a parking spot with cars on both sides.

WHAT WAS DONE RIGHT
* guides only show when car is in reverse

RECOMMENDATIONS
* yellow predictive guides would be easier to see (as with many other reverse camera systems).
* in addition to the predictive guides, stationary guides with distance markers (at actual car width) are needed to make the predictive guides more useful

I look forward to the improvements.
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  • edited November -1
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  • edited November -1
    First let me say I think this upgrade has been a long time coming and while not as useful as the "Name your Car" option I welcome the fact Tesla has finally given us backup lines.

    Now for the bad.... from the screen shots I've seen I have to agree that they look less than ideal.
    I heard they wanted to keep the minimalist look but these look like the very first beta test.

    My kids civic has better graphics.
  • edited November -1
    Returned to San Diego after one month in northern VA. Tried out back up lines for first time this morning; very easy to use, even though they look unsophisticated, they did the job. I was able to back into parking spaces at Hillcrest outdoor market as well as in tight underground parking structure between car and concrete post.

    Will try parallel parking using lines next!

    Oh, the rear camera shots make it appear that the car behind you is pretty far away. Only by looking at parking sensor yellow or red curves can you properly assure yourself that you are not going to touch the other car's bumper.
  • edited November -1
    Since the h/w is not designed for this overlay, they probably had to settle for a somewhat crude s/w emulation. Hence the clunky lines.
  • edited November -1
    Tried them today. Have never used this kind of thing before so not a big deal to me. Seemed pretty good to me.
  • edited November -1
    The Tegra chipset in the Model S is very capable of handling a simple graphic overlay on top of a video that is also digital data. You'll notice that Tesla redesigned how the video is shown. Previously it was in a static frame, but now it appears in a popup box that can be dismissed by hitting the circle-X. It was a software issue for Tesla and how it was handling the video, nothing more. The hardware is more than capable and is limited only by the software that runs on it.
  • edited November -1
    I like to focus on the fact that they are *guide* lines. I still have to do the fine aiming and use the mirrors, if it's really tight. They just make that a little easier. I'm not sure they could and should aim to be a fail-proof system upon which we can rely blindly (so to speak). As with all driving aids, I enjoy the help, but I'm a bit worried about handing too much control to the technology. I still want to be the driver.
  • edited November -1
    I never had backup lines on any car before and while I wasn't waiting on these I really like them as they are.
  • edited November -1
    I think they are fine as is
  • When I heard that Tesla had put guide lines I thought thank goodness at least I don't have to keep reading about people going on about them. Now they are not good enough?

    Personally I am never going to trust guidelines because I use side mirrors. After all I will be driving a £100,000 car and after 35 years of driving I do not need them. I will only use the camera to check for obstructions.
  • edited November -1
    Graham, they are great for parallel parking... avoiding wheel contact with curb.
  • edited November -1
    I personally like the minimalist look as it doesn't detract from the rest of the image. Some of the overlays I've had in other cars are huge and unnecessary.

    Also, the lines are not the edge of the car, they are where the wheels line up. I don't see how that makes backing up into a spot difficult as you can line them up between the lines on the ground perfectly (or evenly between the two cars on either side).
  • edited November -1
    Well, I got them yesterday. Still experimenting and learning to use them to achieve precision I have with just the mirrors but they are helpful already as they are during the initial approach.
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    edited November -1
    To me, they don't look as fancy as others but work well. My truck has them along with distance blocks that cover up most of what you are trying to see. Really annoying when hooking up a trailer, more is not always better.
  • edited November -1
    Bit of info: guideline width represents about about 3 inches on the ground. They are not drawn at high frame rates, there is some delay after steering before they are redrawn. I cannot use them alone for my precise parking purposes (within 5mm of target) but they are a great aid for the approach.
  • edited November -1
    Yellow color would be nice but I have to say they are accurate for parking. I tested in my condo coming from diferent angles and the lines worked very well. thank you Tesla
  • edited November -1
    Work great at back in S. chargers and backing into angle parking and parallel parking. No hurry to see any change. Yellow color Might be an improvement.
  • edited November -1
    Works great for me... Very accurate...
  • edited November -1
    I tried in a number of scenarios, took pictures and then got out and took pictures of where the car/wheels were. In once case, the lines were straight and one of them was exactly on a driveway seam. I got out and the tire extended perhaps an inch or two past that seam.

    In other cases where I saw a curve while parallel parking, I got out and found the line just about exactly in the middle of where the tire was. After I was in the space and the lines were straight again, the line was closer to the outside edge of the tire but still with a few inches of tire to the side. In all cases, I used the right line as a reference.

    For parallel parking, as a rule of thumb I will assume that I want the line to look about 8 inches or so from the curb when backing into a space. I'll have to be a bit more conservative and check each time I finish parking so I can refine it over time. I'll be well within the legal limits even with a conservative estimate.
  • edited November -1
    Tesla, Thank you for the reverse back up guidelines.
    Model S keeps getting better.
  • edited November -1
    I love them. they seem very accurate to where the tires will be. Helps me to not hit a curb when parallel parking...good job!
  • edited November -1
    Yeah, if the lines overlap the curb, you're aimed wrong!
  • edited November -1
    Almost all the other cars have guidelines that cover the width of the car.

    In the MS, the guidelines indicate your tire path - not the width of the vehicle itself. Once you realize that, it is very helpful.
  • edited November -1
    They work great for backing into SuperCharger stalls -- tried this out yesterday, and my car was perfectly centered in the stall -- much easier than user the mirrors -- kudos to Tesla!
  • edited November -1
    So far I like them a lot--I am not looking for millimeter accuracy, but a helpful tool in conjunction with the tilting outside rear view mirrors. No complaints--and an upgrade to my May 2013 S85 (...which keeps getting better).
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