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We've got more Sun than You've got Oil. Brown said.

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http://www.ecowatch.com/california-solar-power-2305961141.html

California meeting half its Energy Needs and is the 6th largest World Economic power and the biggest in the United States.

And the Sun transports it energy for FREE.
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  • edited November -1
    We also have more oil than they have oil. Suck it, Saudi Arabia.
  • edited November -1
    Ah, I see he was talking about Texas. Never mind. But the "meeting half its energy needs" claim in your post is misleading; the cited article says:

    "The state BRIEFLY generated enough solar power to meet nearly half of the state's electricity needs"

    California's on report in December of last year says they meet 27% of their energy needs with renewables (including stuff like hydro and biomass:

    http://www.energy.ca.gov/renewables/tracking_progress/documents/renewable.pdf

    So, progress, but not half, and not for a while yet.
  • edited November -1
    @Dramsey, at least you acknowledge that over 25% of energy in California is renewables.

    What percent in any random Red State? Why are they laggards?
  • edited November -1
    And
    A Republican who sees Climate Change and doing something. Bravo to Indiana that is not scared by the Tea party and not bending to fossil fuel interests.

    https://thinkprogress.org/republican-mayor-jim-brainard-climate-change-e662f098c0a3#.xx7sfxrhf

    One can nitpick the details but California is headed all Electric.
  • edited November -1
    If you read the article it also lists Tesla Energy as a storage solution. More PV's will require more Powerpaks which seems to be ongoing.
  • edited November -1
    Based on my forum name, I obviously agree with Gov Brown! :-)
  • edited November -1
    @Dramsey, I was very serious about asking you to provide a sampling from Red States of their respective fractions of renewable energy as a percent of total stationary sources.
  • edited November -1
    Just got info in the mail. For a few more bucks a month, we can go to 100% renewables, it seems. Since I can't put solar on my townhouse, this could make me feel more "green", and would make sense when we have just two teslae in the garage in a year. :-)

    http://www.peninsulacleanenergy.com
  • edited November -1
    That is great NKYTA. The rates are even better. Teslae? That could work.
  • edited March 2017
    "@Dramsey, I was very serious about asking you to provide a sampling from Red States of their respective fractions of renewable energy as a percent of total stationary sources."

    Oh, well, if I had only understood that you were _serious_...

    There's this thing called "Google". And many Federal agencies, like, say, the Department of Energy, publish all kinds of stuff. Like:

    https://energy.gov/maps/renewable-energy-production-state

    Dunno why you seem to think that I was attacking Califonia's renewable progress. I was just pointing out that the OP's headline was misleading.
  • edited November -1
    I am not a propagandist as some are, especially the fossil fuel apologists and enjoy arguments. I don't engage in such nitpicking. Usually people can think for themselves and should read the source link. Interpretations are usually based on one's bias.
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    edited November -1
    Hopefully California can show the rest of the country how it's done with renewables.
  • edited November -1
    California generates 8.43% of total U.S. renewable energy production. (Hey thanks for the link, dramsey.)

    Considering we have very limited hydroelectric generation (see Oregon and Washington, in contrast), I'd say we're doing pretty well.

    And I'm very thankful for prevailing winds that will blow pollution from less enlightened states elsewhere, while our clean air helps those downwind polluters.
  • edited March 2017
    I do believe that Texas, of all places, gets a significant amount of its energy from wind power. The key to moving to solar utility grade power is affordable and efficient storage, so Tesla hopefully is cranking out those big power packs.
  • edited March 2017
    What would really blow things up is if the enormous West Coast companies like Apple, Tesla, Google, MS, Amazon, etc, etc. would partner on a huge and profitable solar utility.
  • edited March 2017
    Some of you are not telling the whole story, which is highly disingenuous. California has some of the highest energy and gas prices, this is happening in light of being the leader in renewables. It's easy to flaunt the results when you don't talk about the spending side of the equation.

    http://gasprices.aaa.com
    http://www.neo.ne.gov/statshtml/204.htm
  • edited November -1
    The benefits of paying taxes include CLEAN AIR, SAFE DRINKING WATER, AND​AN ENVIRONMENT WORTH LIVING IN. The cheapest places to live will cost you in healthcare MONEY.
  • edited November -1
    Mike83,

    If businesses that pollute simply pass their costs onto the consumer while making no effort to clean up their act are not making cleaner air or the safer water.

    Throwing more money at problems doesn't mean it solves them, it depends on how that money is spent. California has the highest taxes in most categories and is crumbling in many respects. This isn't rhetoric or nuance, this is fact.
  • edited November -1
    @massimo. Health and safety may have a price and it is certainly worth paying it. Yes the fossil fuel and other polluting industries may pass on their costs. But if we continue to subsidies clean industries they will compete price wise and people to switch. Again do you defecate in your garden instead of paying for a toilet.
  • edited March 2017
    I think these Climate Change deniers are attempting to convince themselves as they get quite emotional and post out of anger. Without evidence it must be frustrating for them yet they play to the tune of fossil fuel kingpins bringing in extraneous reasoning.
  • edited November -1
    China spending $360 Billion on Solar creating 13 million jobs.
    Cool pictures from space of the largest arrays.

    https://www.engadget.com/2017/03/08/the-worlds-largest-solar-farm-from-space/
  • edited March 2017
    Mikey "AND​AN" what the heck does that mean ??
  • edited November -1
    The same thing as bigd.
    Having a parsing problem?
  • edited March 2017
    "Having a parsing problem?" analyze (a sentence) into its parts and describe their syntactic roles "once again the resident moron has no idea what he is talking about. LOL no wonder collages are getting so pathetic in the US.
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