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Houston was warned by scientists but called them alarmists

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  • edited October 2017
    @SCCRENDO (September 18, 2017)

    << Perhaps you would generate that warm and fuzzy feeling at Trump ralllies, KKK rallies or indeed neo-Nazi rallies. >>

    Trying to excuse Left-wing violence with Right-wing violence or even the peaceful rallies of political opponents is job for a villain and it makes you look like the wretch and scumbag you are.
  • edited October 2017
    @Remnant. Again confusion reigns in your brain scrap. Let me correct your sentence
    “Trying to excuse Right-wing violence with Left-wing violence or even the peaceful rallies of political opponents is job for a villain and it makes you look like the wretch and scumbag you are.
  • edited October 2017
    SCCRENDO
    do you think the pro Trump posts originate from Russia? They always avoid the topic and bring in their sick hate.

    https://thinkprogress.org/russia-facebook-clinton-campaign-d6d76b2a2e82/
  • edited November -1
    @Mike. Don't really want to go into conspiracy theories. I do see all the Facebook posts with anti-Obama and anti-Clinton nonsense. I just ignored them because I felt that nobody would be that gullible to actually believe them. But the election of Trump suggests that many do. I think people like Remnant are just committed bigots and haters. It is likely that these kind of posts influence them further but I think he would have voted Trump regardless. I know many of that ilk. (Some of my best friends are right wing nutjobs. LOL). The problem is that all they ever watch is Foxnews and read Breitbart and are completely closed to other viewpoints.They have a fact phobia.
  • edited November -1
    Closed minds suck up information that agrees with their bias which explains why they don't get science or scientists. The Russian intelligence saw this opportunity along with US fossil fuel pundants that could use Trump to advance their agenda.
    The Koch brothers funded the tea bag party seems similar as they own many in the government
  • edited October 2017
    Hey NoMoGas, I've paid my flood insurance premium for 10 years. Are you trying to tell me that if your home got damaged after paying an insurance premium for 10 years, you would not file a claim? Is that what you are trying to tell everybody here? You're fulla crap if that is the point you are trying to make! Of course you would file a claim. If you smashed up your Tesla, are you going to file a claim with your insurance company? Or, are you just going to pay out of pocket to repair your car.

    I know the answer to those questions I posed to you. And the same goes to the rest of you goofy, dumb-ass, worthless piece of dog poop global warming worshippers! You would file a claim with your insurance company like everybody else would. I am no different. I filed a claim to repair my home. The adjuster came out to take pictures and write up a report. He just finished his report after a month and is submitting it to the "carrier" as he calls it.

    My neighbor got 10K from FEMA without having flood insurance. If you want to make a case about digging into the Treasury for government assistance, that would be it. But, in most cases, that assistance is in the form of a loan. My case is that I paid flood insurance premiums for 10 years, hoping I would never have to use it. Well, it happened, so I filed a rightful claim.

    AND YOU A-HOLES DON'T LIKE THAT FOR SOME REASON!
  • edited October 2017
    @Welfare_Mitch. Why are getting so angry?? Your neighbor got his welfare cheese without being suckered into paying flood insurance while you paid yours. You still got your share of welfare cheese. You wouldn’t have got it in a libertarian state without FEMA. Liberals never get jealous when those less fortunate than themselves get helped out by the government when in trouble. We don’t get jealous. Look at the poor people of Puerto Rico who are struggling to get help from FEMA. Trump took time off after 10 days of golf to throw paper towels at them. You on the other hand are annoyed at your neighbor even though you also got your welfare cheese
  • edited October 2017
    After reading the claims report from my adjuster, I wasn't "suckered" into anything Captain Planet! In fact, after my ground floor is restored, I will become a walking, talking advertisement for flood insurance!

    The more people who sign up for flood insurance outside of the flood zones, the less money, if any will be needed from the Federal Treasury to back the program. The Reagan Administration succeeded in making the National Flood Insurance Program independent of the Treasury back in 1985. Of course, that was only temporary because Reagan was temporary. I don't know all of the hows and whys of this program, whether it is right or wrong. It just is - and the only thing available if you want to supplement your homeowners insurance to cover your home if it floods.

    Most people don't have flood insurance because they don't think their home will ever flood. But every year, peoples' homes get flooded, and they are in shock and despair when it happens. When my home got flooded, I was breathing a bit easier knowing I had flood insurance, even though I had no idea how much coverage I would get. Now that I've read the report, I am glad that I opted for flood coverage. And I encourage everybody who lives in a place where it rains hard to get it. Nature has no regard for where humans build their homes!

    No Captain Planet. I am not annoyed over my neighbors seeking help from FEMA. I know their plight!
  • edited October 2017
    So Welfare_Mitch stop complaining about FEMA and be grateful we have it. Now lets make sure that Trump doesnt dismantle it. Also lets hope they help Puerto Rico. And it’s time Houston prohibited building in wetlands and required environmentally sound building permits. And lets address climate change.
  • edited November -1
    Addendum - My neighbors would be much better off if they had flood insurance!
  • edited November -1
    Agreed. But FEMA still came through for you and your neighbor. How about Puerto Rico???
  • edited October 2017
    When have I complained about FEMA Captain Planet? I prefer the private market, but I am aware of the way things are. I am not going to live my life in misery because everybody does not think the way I do, as opposed to you liberals! The fundamental difference between conservatives and liberals is that we believe in freedom of thought. You liberals don't!
  • edited October 2017
    Captain Planet, did you not notice Trump entertaining the thought of forgiving Puerto Rico's debt?
  • edited October 2017
    Captain Planet, according to your logic, all of Houston is a floodplain, and should be dismantled. You never did address my comment about Anchorage, AK rebuilding in an earthquake zone in 1964.
  • edited November -1
    I guess you cannot complain about FEMA. You did get your welfare cheese. Trump promised to forgive Puerto Rico’s debt like he promised to make America Great again. Neither will happen. Need to watch Trump’s actions not his words, particularly his tweets. He got too distracted by golf to attend to Puerto Rico. I did not say dismantle Houston. I did say they need to build sensibly in the future. And take positive actions to minimize future flood damage including addressing climate change. Yes one can rebuild in earthquake zones. We need to look at the overall risk and build earthquake “safe” buildings. Major disasters will continue to cause severe damage but we need to look at the risks and be sensible about how we build and rebuild. Houston’s building was unregulated and the market prevailed while ignoring all risks. I encourage capitalism. And like all aspects of my life I encourage people taking the initiative and trying things. But we need to be aware of and address risks
  • edited October 2017
    Thanks @Mike83, Limbaugh is such a piece of crap, a bloviating idiot. I have family members who voted for you know who, who are in the path of this storm. They have ignored my pleas to take Climate Change/Disruption seriously. Maybe if they see some serious damage, they might wake up and pay attention to this issue. This number of hurricanes in the last couple of months is unprecedented and should be of concern to folks who can't seem to connect the dots that a warming ocean is linked to what is happening. I am also sick of right wing attacks against credible scientist lie Dr. Mann, who continue speak out on this issue. Utterly disgusting.

    https://www.ecowatch.com/silence-climate-scientists-2491043851.html?utm_source=EcoWatch+List&utm_campaign=be79eed10d-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_49c7d43dc9-be79eed10d-85954177
  • edited October 2017
    lie = like
  • edited October 2017
    This is an inaccurate statement Captain Planet - "Houston’s building was unregulated and the market prevailed while ignoring all risks."

    Flood risk is very well studied, and the flood insurance premiums vary considerably based on that risk. However, I do notice a modification of your tone. And that is a good thing!

    Consider this Captain Planet. The Greater and Lesser Antilles. Look how vulnerable they are to hurricanes. Should we allow people to live there? That is basically the argument you've been making for the past month.
  • edited October 2017
    Freudian slip Tesla-David. Lie Dr. Mann is right on target!

    Nothing at all unprecedented about this hurricane season. Hurricanes have been well documented for over a century. 2017 is an active season, but nothing unprecedented.
  • edited October 2017
    @Welfare_Mitch. It’s no fun having a debate with someone like you who ignores facts and makes things up as you go. Please try stick to the truth and check your facts. Btw. I have not modulated my argument. I am consistent. You fail to understand what I am saying.
    http://www.newsweek.com/houston-drowning-freedom-regulations-656087

    It is not for me to make decisions as to who should build where and who shouldn’t. I am all for colonizing Mars. But in deciding where to chose to live or build we need to understand the implications. That’s why we need to follow sensible building codes and follow what science dictates. I guess if people chose to live in high risk areas, like I have chosen to live in California we need to be fully informed of the risks and people need to pay financial penalties to cover the extra risk. The issue in Houston is perhaps that strict building codes were absent and people were not fully informed of the risks. But when disaster strikes a compassionate government still needs to bail out its citizens,
  • edited October 2017
    Here is Dr. Mann as he really is before Congress and his peers. When you have time, and are interested, it is well worth the watch.

  • edited November -1
    I dont have time to listen to the whiole thing. But why don’t you listen to Tomko at around 1h19m
  • edited October 2017
    Volcanos, wildfires, earthquakes, tornados, floods, hurricanes. There are all kinds of natural catastrophes that can damage or destroy people's homes. There are ample studies to determine risk. And we humans just do the best we can to weigh the risks and deal with what happens. Life is full of risks.

    Ridiculing people who have the misfortune of one of these events reveals a sickness that exists in the mind of those hurling the criticisms. And I can't help but notice these criticisms only come from the "anointed ones," the sanctimonious liberal-socialist mindset!
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