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Spontaneous window roll-down. Anybody else have this?

edited November -1 in Model S
Last week while visiting a friend I had to park my Model S on the street overnight in a known high crime area. I walked by the car twice that evening and all ok but returned at 0830 to find the right passenger window completely down. Someone had leaned in, pulled off one of the center armrest covers, and stole two thumb drives and a black change purse hidden deep in the center console. No broken glass. Window closed normally with the switches, no sign of windows having been pried, alarm never went off and there was no alarm alert to my phone.

I spoke with Tesla and they say they have no reports of similar and that the vehicle logs for the time period involved showed no unusual events. They claim that when the car is locked there is no power and therefore you can't roll the window down using the switches. They also stated that rolling a window down will not set off the alarm and that window roll-up/down is not recorded in the vehicle log.

Neither Tesla nor I have any idea how this happened. I think it was a software glitch. The only thing I can think of is that I did receive an email from Tesla that evening announcing a new software update and I opened the Tesla phone app to see if Tesla might have any info about the update on the app (they did not-the app is too simple). I did note the app message stating "powering up..." or something similar but closed the app pretty much immediately. And, NO, I did NOT unlock anything.

Despite Tesla's statement that the power is off when the vehicle is locked, I do wonder if you could roll down a window by inserting an air wedge between the B pillar and the glass, open it just enough to slide in a wire entry tool and push the window button down to activate the window motor.

Anyone else out there have a similar experience or can anyone offer a plausible explanation?
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  • edited November -1
    That’s unfortunate. High crime rate area? I can see myself sitting in a lawn chair guarding my baby. :)

    I have not heard of anything similar. I would think with alarm armed there would be a sensor to detect an open window.
  • edited November -1
    I know I have put passenger windows down with my left knee. A few times I was totally unaware I had done it.
  • edited November -1
    There are some conditions that cause windows to not go up - they go up about 1/3-1/2 way, then go back down. This is caused by a controller failure or loss of configuration.

    Not saying this is the case, but it would have meant your window was down when you left the vehicle.
  • edited January 2018
    I would suggest getting a dash cam, but they would probably steal that too. Hope you figure out what went wrong. I guess replacing thumb drives is cheaper than replacing a window if thats any consolation .
  • edited November -1
    Like Anthony said. This was a known phenomenon happened to many people before.
  • edited January 2018
    I thought about the knee issue, but after I exited the car I walked by it twice over the next three hours and the windows were up.
  • edited January 2018
    knee
  • edited January 2018
    IIRC, the message before an update reads that there is a chance that the vehicle’s alarm may be deactivated during the update. Maybe that happened? Is that possible?
  • edited January 2018
    Something that has happened to me in the past is that I accidentally left the other key in the car and walked away with what I thought was the only key in the vehicle. Fortunately no one entered my vehicle, but I didn't discover it until I figured out I could open the door by just touching the door handle without the key on me.

    Try to enter your vehicle without the key to make sure that door handles don't present.

    You mentioned that window up/down events were not logged. Are door opening/closing logged?
  • edited January 2018
    @eddyline: The update wasn’t being installed, so it shouldn’t impact the alarm.

    @augendoc: The lack of information about the pending update isn’t specific to the app; you can’t get any details from the touchscreen either. You don’t get the version number or release notes until after you’ve installed the update.
  • edited November -1
    @rxlawdude: I have this problem with my passenger side window. Instead of just clicking the button up once, I have to hold it in the up position until the window is all the way shut. Is this a known issue that is easy to have fixed?
  • edited May 2018
    My model 3 has a rear passenger window phantom roll down but only about two inches. Happened three times now. I’ve only had it two weeks. Tesla is working on it now. Even with this, I love this car. If this is the worst issue I’ve got to deal with to get a first of model, I’m good. Bought a Toyota Tacoma a few years back and it was in the dealer shop four times in the first month, and this is a car they’ve been making for decades...
  • edited November -1
    Tesla told me that there's an issue with the window regulators on early cars. I haven't had a problem with mine at all, but Tesla is planning to swap the regulator at some point to prevent possible future problems. If anybody is having window problems with an early car, it may or may not be that. If your car is affected, chances are that Tesla is already planing to swap it for you. It's just a matter of time. They might wait until the car is in for something else, or when they have mobile service in the area and have the parts in stock.

    If the car is more recent, especially from within the past few weeks, it's far less likely to be that issue. If the car is having active problems, there's no need to wait until Tesla would have worked on it anyway, unless it's a minor nuisance and you'd prefer to wait for any reason.
  • edited May 2018
    2013 P85+ and I've had this issue. Tesla replaced the window regulator in the front passenger door.
  • edited May 2018
    I had the same thing happen to me last night. Was after a software upgrade. Luckily the car was in my garage. The passenger window was completely down. Also have found that the window does not close completely after closing the door and rain came in. Also had a problem with it closing my garage door on exit. On two occasions the garage door closed when I was only halfway out despite it being set to close when the car was 70' away.
  • edited June 2018
    My M3 has also been having the phantom roll-down problem on the passenger side windows - can any of the prior posters report what was done to solve their problem so I can try to steer the SC. Thanks!
  • edited June 2018
    I've had same window, pass rear, roll down when messing with other buttons. I've had to mess with the actual pass rear up down up down up down, in order to get it to stay up. Dec 2013 85. Have only had this happen a couple times in 4 years.
  • I just experienced this today and took to Google to see if I was alone. I updated this weekend to 2018.26.1 (The one with the WIFI and the beep on "walk-away-lock). I was at work today, went out at lunch time to find my DRIVER side window fully down. I'm pretty sure I would have noticed that when closing the door to leave... we'll see if it happens again. I put in a call to Tesla support just in case they could check something remotely, but I won't go in for this.
  • I just experienced this today and took to Google to see if I was alone. I updated this weekend to 2018.26.1 (The one with the WIFI and the beep on "walk-away-lock). I was at work today, went out at lunch time to find my DRIVER side window fully down. I'm pretty sure I would have noticed that when closing the door to leave... we'll see if it happens again. I put in a call to Tesla support just in case they could check something remotely, but I won't go in for this.
  • edited August 2018
    Passenger side rear, I've found it rolled down 3 times this past week. Twice in the garage, once at the zoo. First two I thought I was imagining it. I also have a problem getting the back doors open from the inside. Have to fool with the inside button and press it twice to be able push open (either) back door (child lock not set), I tried reporting that on the "ask a question" on the owner profile page, to no avail.
  • edited September 2018
    Just took delivery today of P3D and had this happen 3x today.

    First time front passenger window was all the way down after walking away. Then later playing with it to reproduce the issue on walk-away the rear passenger window was down 3" Then, another time, the front passenger window completely down on walk away.

    After the first instance I did the window recalibration thing (up + hold 5s, down + hold 5s) but that didn't fix it.

    Not thrilled with this part of the day 1 experience but Tesla promised to get someone out to fix it ASAP. I'll update with my experience.
  • edited September 2018
    SOLUTION (Maybe): You may find that your left knee can rest on one of the windows down controls (usually for windows on the right side) and roll down the window unexpectedly. If you have the music playing and the pano roof open, you may not even notice it happening. Then when you exit the car you may notice it (or not). In some cases you may not notice it until you return to the car. Seem like a phantom window opening, but you're actually causing it. I expect for some people, this is impossible (i.e. between your knee size and seat position), but rest your knee on the controls to test if you're a likely candidate for this situation. I've done it a couple of times, but figured out and don't rest my knee on the door. Might even be some clothes create a higher risk. I think I was wearing jeans at the time, with a fairly stiff seam that caused the button press.
  • edited September 2018
    I came back to my car (Model S75D), after having left it for four days out in the open air at an airport car park. I was stunned to find the front passenger window completely rolled down, the windscreen sunshield flapping uselessly in the light evening breeze.

    Thankfully, no one had vandalized the car or stolen anything, but I was somewhat shaken. How could I have missed a rolled down window when I walked away from the car four days earlier?
  • edited September 2018
    This was just a few days ago, so this thread being bumped again is very timely for me.
  • edited September 2018
    I find that my passengers (wife) when exiting the car frequently puts pressure on the down panel and thus the window button rolling the window down a few inches. She never realizes it either. Women live longer then men because they are, generally, not married to women.
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