Electrify America is building out fast. 150kW CCS base.
I have no home charging. No work charging. Dependent on public chargers so more is better.
Mostly at Tesla's SC's but always looking for more places to charge. My two closest SC's are "high usage" often full, lines and no all the chargers working or at full power.
Electrify America is building out a public charging system that will rival and complement Teslas.
EA has built one 10 x SC right near the Vancouver, WA Tesla SC so that is nice. No CCS adapter from Tesla yet so I can only use the single legacy Chademo at 50kW.
EA has a legacy 4 x 50kW near work.
And today I found one under construction which will be a 6 x 150kW CCS plugs with a single Level 2 for legacy cars. And just 2 miles from work. The Tesla SC is 4 miles from work. Nice to see EA is building out its network
Can't quite figure out the setup. There are three towers, each with 2 x 150 kW CCS plugs but it looks like parking for 4 but maybe they are going to use more of the parking lot a full seven can charge at once.
https://imgur.com/QLYPkWw
https://imgur.com/D2oOOaw
EA map shows six more stations scheduled for PDX Metro. Audi/Porsche/VW are coming out with a lot of EVs in 2020 and EA, like Tesla before it, is building out the charging network ahead of time.
Great news for EV's everywhere.
Mostly at Tesla's SC's but always looking for more places to charge. My two closest SC's are "high usage" often full, lines and no all the chargers working or at full power.
Electrify America is building out a public charging system that will rival and complement Teslas.
EA has built one 10 x SC right near the Vancouver, WA Tesla SC so that is nice. No CCS adapter from Tesla yet so I can only use the single legacy Chademo at 50kW.
EA has a legacy 4 x 50kW near work.
And today I found one under construction which will be a 6 x 150kW CCS plugs with a single Level 2 for legacy cars. And just 2 miles from work. The Tesla SC is 4 miles from work. Nice to see EA is building out its network
Can't quite figure out the setup. There are three towers, each with 2 x 150 kW CCS plugs but it looks like parking for 4 but maybe they are going to use more of the parking lot a full seven can charge at once.
https://imgur.com/QLYPkWw
https://imgur.com/D2oOOaw
EA map shows six more stations scheduled for PDX Metro. Audi/Porsche/VW are coming out with a lot of EVs in 2020 and EA, like Tesla before it, is building out the charging network ahead of time.
Great news for EV's everywhere.
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Please try and shill harder.
Pricing at 75 kWh for Tesla is $21.
More than Tesla but EA is setup to make a profit while Tesla is not plus Tesla rolled all the initial construction costs into startup capital budget.. I suspect if/when Tesla decides to make money on the chargers, the prices will equalize.
EA price works out to $0.10 a mile energy costs for the Tesla
Subaru was $0.13 for fuel.
Keeps the EV's cheaper to operate and with a network as big as Teslas, as convenient which is probably more important to EV adoption
Tesla controls production and storage of electricity and will be driving electricity prices down.
That’s the beauty of controlling your ecosystem instead of being a continuing criminal enterprise like VAG.
Tesla is not an energy producer. Many of it's customers are energy producers though. Electricity prices are going up as there's a huge capital expense converting to wind and solar, building the big and small energy storage units that make solar/wind soul source work, some purchased from Tesla. As Musk notes, a massive build out is needed which is going to add to electric costs.
EA is part of the solution, attacks on EA are the problem.
They discourage EVs more than encouraging them.
Tesla is the only hope we have seen for EV adoption. The other companies are realizing that they have to make EVs, not because of lame laws 'mandating' them, subsidizing them, or forcing them to do so as penance for illegal activities. Its because Tesla is proving it can be done and threatening them in the showroom and on the track.
While I wish that EVgo and EA would work. I just can't and don't see them doing it.
EA is encouraging EV adoption big time. Amusing to see Teals uber fans extol the Tesla SC network as the difference making that sets Tesla apart but then freak out when EA starts building out an similar network.
If we want EV's to succeed, EA has to succeed.
Receipts:
https://www.utilitydive.com/news/can-the-price-of-rooftop-solar-keep-falling/539612/
Which cable type?
Which adapter?
What charging rate?
Can I find out how many (of my) slots are available?
Cost?
Cost is the least thing i worry about, since EA would be a stop gap measure for some part of the US with few SCs, like SE Utah. I do, however feel sorry for non-Tesla owners, locked out of the SC network. Out of the 8 or so tries at nonSC charging, I was only successful once. Broken cables, no power, unreadable displays, blocked stalls, corporate chargers mis-listed as public, transaction declined, etc. Awful.
You would have to wait for the CCS adapter that Tesla sells for S and X;s in EU. Same as Model 3 owners. Tesla SC's are CCS in EU and all the new fast charging EV's (Audi's, Hyunadai's, Kia's, Porsche, Bolt) are all CCS.
The older EA's have a Chademo for the older tech EV'ers to use (Leaf, Tesla) and that's not too bad at 50kW/200mph.
Tesla promised the CCS adapter for the Model 3 in 2019 so hopefully they are sticking to that promise. Chademo upgrade for Teslas was just a few months ago.
And for Tesla owners who don't have home or work charging. With winter coming, range dropping, it's nice to have more alternatives to get a charge.
I'm always paying less than gasoline prices at EA and EVgo.
You are a rookie, you haven't seen much in your few days on the job.
Everything I see about EA is actually looking worse and more unsustainable than the DoE's "The EV Project" unless someone finds some way to force some sort of reasonable service quality.
It is also a very tough business model since the product (electricity) is cheap but the infrastructure (high power infrastructure) is expensive.
People will grouse over the price when that includes the expensive equipment that, even at a $1/session, will take a long time to recover.
Assume about $50K per station plus as much for installation and equipment.
Should be easy for EA to catch up with their deep pockets.
But they can’t and won’t.
As for the pricing of the EA chargers goes, I and others have been saying this ever since the EA network was announced and that is they would make it confusing and expensive (profit driven), and that will discourage people from buying EVs from traditional car makers, when their respective EVs don’t sell, will raise their hands and say, “.....we tried, but there is just no demand”.
All i know is that some states require that you are not charged per energy use but charged per minute. I think thats a legislative issue that we should otherwise be trying to get reversed.
For example, all the hype about 350 kWh charging (and the pricing levels for it) and you find in your Model 3, you only get 122 kWh. That's less than half that of a V3 Supercharger and about 1/3 of the "350 kWh" rate promoted. It then takes 3 times longer than one might think it should.