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Solar Incentive

I placed my order back in Feb and being told I will be able to get it installed by the end of the year for the solar incentive.
However I got a text saying my constructions will begin at Dec 28th.

Does this qualify for the solar incentive this year?
If it's not, can I contact Tesla for reimbursement?

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  • Congratulations, I am still waiting for mine.
    My understanding is that the incentive is based on the system. turn on date, which is based on approval from the utility.

    You might try asking for a discount because they have adjusted the price at least once since I signed my contract in August and anything that happens before installation might reasonably be negotiated, especially if you have waited a long time.

    Are you in Washington by any chance? I'd like to see a roof come together.
  • Thanks for the info, let me try to talk to my advisor and see if they can do anything about it.
    No i'm in California.
  • leow, I'd ask for a price adjustment of 4% of the project cost. That's the difference between the 26% incentive of 2020, and the 22% incentive of 2021.

    Were you *told* it would be installed in 2020, or was that actually written into your contract? If it's in the contract, you've got some negotiating room. If it was verbal, Tesla doesn't have a lot of incentive (besides good karma) to compensate you for the delay.
  • If Tesla delays the install and in the interim discounts the price, then being open to negotiating would be more like avoiding bad karma than getting good karma.

    My contract is worded that installation will begin in approximately 90 days from the sign date and will finish approximately within 90 days after start.
  • It was verbal by the representative.
    However my purchase agreement says approximately 2 weeks to 6 months for installation to start after signed and 7-21 days for completion after installation.

    I think Tesla will argue about the word "approximately"...
    Called advisor but did not pick up so I left her a voicemail.
  • Note that if there is a price adjustment, it would be on the deductible portion of the solar roof, not the entire project. Only the solar tiles, related labor, and Powerwalls are deductable. The non-solar portion of the roof does not qualify for the tax credit.
  • > @"TeslaTap.com" said:
    > Note that if there is a price adjustment, it would be on the deductible portion of the solar roof, not the entire project. Only the solar tiles, related labor, and Powerwalls are deductable. The non-solar portion of the roof does not qualify for the tax credit.

    How do I calculate the deductible on that?
    Is this something Tesla would provide?
  • On the Tesla Purchase agreement, the non-solar portion of the roof is broken out separately from the rest. There is a footnote "1" on items that should be eligible for the federal tax credit.
  • Kind of like the breakout that's specified on an auto registration. At least, that's the case in California.
  • I'm on the same boat in CA. Signed up in June and installation will start in Jan. I have an email from my advisor that says Tesla will send me a check for 4% of the solar portion to make up the difference.
  • > @Lakersfreak said:
    > I'm on the same boat in CA. Signed up in June and installation will start in Jan. I have an email from my advisor that says Tesla will send me a check for 4% of the solar portion to make up the difference.

    Did you ask your advisor for it or they just did it without you doing anything?
  • > @"leow.juneyee_98446946" said:
    > > @Lakersfreak said:
    > > I'm on the same boat in CA. Signed up in June and installation will start in Jan. I have an email from my advisor that says Tesla will send me a check for 4% of the solar portion to make up the difference.
    >
    > Did you ask your advisor for it or they just did it without you doing anything?

    I brought it up to my advisor back in October. Told her if it's not installed by end of the year I expect Tesla to provide the 4% difference.
  • My advisor responded to me and gave me 4% rebate!
    Thanks!
  • > @"leow.juneyee_98446946" said:
    > My advisor responded to me and gave me 4% rebate!
    > Thanks!

    Did they already give it to you? Or they told you they would give it to you?
  • My advisor told me yesterday that since we are starting the tear off next week I should still be good for 26%, even though we won't finish install until late January. I don't think she is right, and I told her that, but not sure how I can go about making sure I get the 4% difference since I started in June.
  • I'm pretty sure she's wrong on that one. In order to get the incentive for a specific calendar year, project completion (PTO?) must occur in that year. I recommend carefully reading the instructions for form 5695.

    From the instructions:

    "Costs. For purposes of both credits, costs are treated as being paid when the original installation of the item is completed, or, in the case of costs connected with the reconstruction of your home, when your original use of the reconstructed home begins"

    I'd be demanding that 4% difference in credit between 2020 and 2021.

    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i5695.pdf
  • > @Lakersfreak said:
    > > @"leow.juneyee_98446946" said:
    > > My advisor responded to me and gave me 4% rebate!
    > > Thanks!
    >
    > Did they already give it to you? Or they told you they would give it to you?

    I signed a document for the rebate
  • I just got 2 price adjustment now.
    When I first signed the contract it was $25k and then it got bumped up to $28k and that is acceptable because they said the wood under the roof might need replacement. But then today I got another adjustment saying it will be now $34k because the electric main panel needs to be upgraded and it cost me $5k??

    My advisor told me my current main panel is at 100amp and it needs to be at least 150amp.
    Although it does make sense but that's almost $10k adjustment, far exceed my expectation.
    $34k doesn't even include the gutter replacement...

    I wonder if same thing will happen if I go with a regular roof replacement and separate solar install?
    Looking back my quote 2 years ago, a shingles roof is ~$12k and same size of solar is ~$12k. Which come close to Tesla original price in the contract.
    I'm gonna assume those quote does not include wood replacement and main panel upgrade too?
  • 100 amp service is on the marginal side for most houses today. I suspect the breakers are quite old and perhaps has no free slots? You didn't say how old the house is, but it may be time for a panel upgrade. This likely means a new meter, new breaker panel, and all new breakers, which quite a few may be the expensive arc-fault breakers now required in most locations. $5K sounds about right for that kind of work but could be cheaper in some rural areas.

    On the plus side, you'll get a much safer electrical system. Some insurance companies give a discount too if the panel is upgraded, depending on how old the house is. I think 40+ year-old houses is where you may get a discount.
  • you will need to upgrade your panel whether or not you go with Tesla or another solar company; 100 amps doesn't cut it. WIth that said, $5K seems a bit steep. I changed my 100 to 200 about a year ago for $3,500.
  • There are also some rather counterintuitive possibilities. I was forced to DOWNGRADE my main panel to 100A when I upsized my solar. Local code enforcers essentially worried about my backfeed to the grid being too much for the grid tie. Neighbor across the street who is in the process of a 12kW new installation also faced the same prospect - we each had the choice of spending upwards of $20k to trench to the street and lay new cables or downsize the main cutoff. In our case, our supply is underground (obviously) and is old enough that it is stranded aluminum. Not sure what is under the street...
  • If anyone needs a referral code you can tell your delivery specialist david25498 or use https://ts.la/david25498 when ordering. Cheers
  • Hoping to make some money here, eh?
  • Looks like my installation date got pushed back again because they are replacing my electric main panel.
    Now they have to go back and getting a new permit.
    What I'm really frustrated is they could have been more up front about these hidden fees.

    I thought I submitted the picture of the electric main panel during the order submission, so they is no excuse on this.
    Why don't tell me there will be a $5k on replacing main panel? Why do this last minute and push my installation back to getting a permit again?
    Now this is gonna take forever again?

    Not only this leave a very bad impression but it hurts themselves too no?
    It's like someone didn't do their job properly and try to cover up last minute.
  • I figured out my installation got pushed back because today was supposed to be the project start date and nothing happen.
    They just leave me hanging...
    I got to say, very disappointed with Tesla on the communication piece and customer service.
    I already had a very bad experience with my model y and now the solar roof.

    I'm starting to worry if they are gonna honor the 25 years warranty they listed in contract.
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