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Is the Porsche Taycan better than a Tesla?

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  • > @bob_saltzer_98342246 said:
    > Me thinks a revamp of the metrics of comparing vehicles needs be made here.

    *** forgot****

    For those married over 20 years more passenger capacity in the Model S...... mother-in-law in the Frunk, Wife in the Trunk.
  • > @WW_icefree said: > Can you dig more old threads trolls?"

    Sorry...sorry...I thought it was Zombie Taycan Thread Day.

    https://forums.tesla.com/discussion/169802/epa-rates-new-porsche-taycan-as-least-efficient-ev-ever-tested
  • I believe Marques said that he enjoys the driving expierance over his S, but Since Porsche has no access to Tesla supercharger for fast charging, Porsche is a no go.
    Marques has a very nice video out entitled “Dear Electric Cars”

    It’s worth the watch.
  • Folks, zombie threads are not a good way to start out the New Year...

    How 'bout that MS refresh?
  • > @"David N" said: Since Porsche has no access to Tesla supercharger for fast charging, Porsche is a no go"

    Unless one wants to drive around the country, 11,000 East, West, North South through US and Canada in Taycan EV.

    "Porsche Taycan Turbo Owner Completes Epic 11,000-Mile Road Trip"
    https://insideevs.com/news/404931/porsche-taycan-turbo-road-trip/

    And unless one wants the 270 mile at 70 mph where the Taycan gets better real world range than most Teslas.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpHju6NtN44

    Other than that Mrs. Lincoln.
  • I'll repeat it again: lack of widespread convenient fast charging network, no OTA and FSD, low range and efficiency, tainted by emission-cheating scandal => we'll pass, even though our family has owned a Carrera S, a Turbo, and a GT3.
  • But its a turbo!
  • Better? No. More expensive? Yes.
  • At last, we can all agree on something. The Taycan is more expensive!
  • “And unless one wants the 270 mile at 70 mph where the Taycan gets better real world range than most Teslas.”

    What does sentence even mean?
  • Seems the second shift has poorer grammar than the first shift.
  • @lbowroom - It means Darth makes up more statements than Trump! He cannot make apples to apple comparison such as using a standard as EPA, as it makes the Taycan look as bad as it is. While hypermiling can get more mileage in any car, perhaps the 270-mile range should compare with the Model S 701 miles range or Model 3 traveling 623 miles!

    https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-model-s-model-3-hypermile-world-records/
  • > @DRFLGD said: > Better?

    Way better. No shame for Tesla in getting beaten by $220k competitor.

    Kyle of InsideEV's test group Out of Spec Motoring, Tesla fan, Tesla owner notes that the Taycan is just at another level of car beyond Tesla (beyond anything) in this video where he gets 270 mile range from Taycan at steady 70 mph.

    https://youtu.be/MpHju6NtN44?t=10
  • So beyond Tesla that is why they are sitting on dealerships and no one wants them.
  • Huuuge win.
  • It appears few are fooled by these "beyond EPA" scam videos with Porsche test cars. Yes, any car can get more miles when carefully driven. The Taycan requiring the awful CCS charging system is likely driving many possible owners away as well. The Taycan does make a nice grocery-getter if you charge at home.
  • > @"TeslaTap.com" said: Yes, any car can get more miles when carefully driven."

    But this was Taycan driven at constant 70 mph, well outside the EPA specs and the car got 25% GREATER THAN EPA RATED RANGE AT 70 MPH.
  • Here's the link to the 70 mph test.

    https://youtu.be/MpHju6NtN44?t=2
  • > @"TeslaTap.com" said: I trust the EPA a lot more than some random internet poster who borrows a prepped car from Porsche for a few hours hoping to make money with controversial YouTube posts."

    Kyle from OutofSpec/InsideEV's is probably one of the most trusted EV testers out there alongside Bjorn Nyland.

    He is Tesla owner and Tesla fan but facts are facts, the Porsche Taycan is the most advanced EV out there, it should be at $120-$250k and it is.
  • So Porche is lying when they say the EPA numbers are accurate? That's not very comforting.

    Unless he does a side-by-side test with a Taycan and Model S LR+ on identical roads and conditions such as road surface, wind, temperature (i.e at the same time), both start with 100% SOC, and are both new, it's not a fair comparison. And the tests should be done at 65 mph to be closer to EPA. No special Eco modes either, just the default when you get into the car like a normal person would do.

    It's nice he has shown that with the right options and clever driving you can get more miles. Just like you can get over 700 miles of range with a Model S.

    And the Porsche is far from the most advanced EV. It is true it is an EV and it is expensive.
  • Remember in 2017 when he said the Bolt was the most advanced EV?

    I do . . .

    https://forums.tesla.com/discussion/comment/2147073#Comment_2147073


    Receipts . . .
  • New year old arguing by troll Fish. GTFOH
  • > @"TeslaTap.com" said: > And the Porsche is far from the most advanced EV. "

    The 800V system is the decider on the EV end and then there are all the car tech that Tesla doesn't come close on.
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