I would love to see Pandora Radio. I already have subscription and am reticent to add yet another subscription with Slacker. Anyone else like to see Pandora app added to the MS?
Big time, I really do not like slacker
I have used it from my phone, through bluetooth.. works great.
I love slacker!
At the moment, data plan is free, so what's the problem?
Slacker appears to have a much larger musical library (the play 'this' song from 'this band' works almost every time) and unlimited skipping forward is nice. I'd like to have the unlimited version of slacker that lets you skip backwards--perhaps a future update? I thought I would miss Pandora, but I don't.
Spotify then pandora for me.
Love Slacker. I don't feel I am missing anything. My husband on the other hand is considering Pandora as he does love it. I'll encourage him to compare if possible in the near future, but for now, Slacker is free so it's for me. Once I have to start paying then we may make a change.
I use both, and I think both have advantages/disadvantages. Pandora wins on audio quality (192k max with Pandora One; 128k max with Slacker), and Slacker clearly wins on content. Also, I like that you can restrict explicit content on Slacker.
I think that slacker radio stations tend to play a lot of the same songs. Pandora would definitely be welcomed.
Pandora showed little interest in Tesla's mobile platform when that part of the infotainment center was created. I remember hearing about this ~two years ago and was also disappointed.
Support for iOS devices over USB would alleviate my problem. Pandora works from the phone over bluetooth but bluetooth audio sounds crummy.
I don't care if it's Slacker or Spotify if they would just get the interface to be equivalent to the mobile/pc feature sets. I should be able to play any specific song in the car that I can play on my PC or phone, but most of the ones I try just give me "song" radio. I should be able to play albums, etc., and I should be able to go back to the beginning of the song if I want.
I would love to see Rhapsody since it lets you pick almost any song directly and create at rue jukebox.
Why not just use the Pandora app on your phone and blue tooth your music?
@GLO - I used to use bluetooth with spotify. I have a spotify premium account but the tight integration that MS has with slacker is really nice. For example if you use bluetooth, music doesn't automatically turn on when you get in the car - you have to turn it on yourself. with slacker you just sit in your car and it picks up where it left off. minor conveniences but there are enough of them that I no longer use spotify when I'm in my MS.
I've heard that was a limitation though MS delivery specialist back in Jan when we got our car said it worked pretty well. My husband is going to try it.
Just a side note: the desktop equivalent of Tunein is FreeTVRadio.com, works on Windows XP or later.
I agree that one can just use fom your phone but that requires one to control from the phone not the touch screen. Given it should be a simple software add, similar to Sonos adding providers it would be better. Just like the tech package not being essential, it is a nice to have and Slacker costs 3.99 or 9.99 a month after the first 3 months trial period, depending on your level of service.
+1 for Pandora.
Not that it's better or worse than Slacker. Just that I have spent a few years personalizing it. More choice is better in this case.
I like TuneIn radio. It's new to me. My advice to you all is to set up an account on your PC, find some stuff you like, and mark it as favorite. Then, login from your Model S (in controls, settings, apps, media) and your favorites will be easy to find. Before I did this, I found navigating TuneIn to be a big pain.
@riceuguy, you can do exactly that with Slacker. Press and hold the audio command button on the steering wheel and clearly and precisely say "Listen to: satisfaction by the rolling stones" and check out the results! If you haven't done this yet, you've been missing one of the best things in the infotainment suite. It wows the friends, too.
@Derek Many times Slacker won't play the specific song. I wonder if there's some kind of throttling, where it will only play exactly what you ask for like once an hour or something like that.
Slacker has found any song I have requested and played it first in the queue. Sometimes it takes a little effort to get it to find what you want, but has never failed in the end. It is sometimes amazing how well it recognizes band or song names on the first try.
I'm a long time paid Pandora user and I'd really like a native Pandora app in the car.
Having said that, I find that I'm using Slacker more and more. The ability to play any song (well, nearly any song) is a major plus. I've tried hard to stump it and only rarely come up with a miss.
The Slacker stations that play have mixed results. Some of them seem to be hand-picked, if you believe the Slacker promos that sometimes come on. Others seem to stall out at 5-10 songs. Pandora has this problem too, but less so.
Slacker isn't worth $9.99/m to me, though, considering I already pay a third of that for Pandora.
No excuse for Tesla not to include a native Pandora client. Just about every other car maker has it now, even in the economy segment. This is a $100k+ car with field upgradable software. Pandora's API is simple.
+1 for Pandora over Slacker. I too have spent many years customizing it. Slacker replays the same songs way more often on a given station. But it has grown on me because of the unlimited skips. Using Pandora over BT is ok, and I can skip from the touchscreen as well as see all the cover art and titles.
I prefer Pandora. I get more interesting song selection from them. They throw me a curve ball occasionally. Whereas Slacker seems to go by the "other songs in this genre during this time period" song selection method.
+1 for Pandora!
(Rhapsody would be cool also!)
After almost a year with Slacker I've decided that Pandora is far superior because it is not as repetative as Slacker.
I discovered lots of great new music via Pandora. Nothing new is popping up with Slacker because it seems to restrict music choices to certain eras rather than just genres and styles.
We figured out how to play Pandora by using a phone but it is difficult to navigate the menus while driving.
I'd love to get full featured Pandora for the car.
yes, I'd vote for Pandora.
+1 for pandora.
Slacker is okay but doesn't seem to learn, or maybe I'm not using it correctly.
With a given station, there's usually one or more artists who show up that I simply don't like. With pandora, after clicking thumbs down a few times it seems to learn, oh I guess he doesn't like X, but w slacker, I push the thumbs down equivalent over and over for a given artist and it just never catches on. Must be different software or maybe different agreement w music labels, etc. Anyone have insight into this?
It sounds like the Slacker app in the Tesla doesn't have the same functionality as the Slacker web application or the Slacker Windows 8 app. When you click the "ban" button on Slacker on the web/win 8 it asks you "Ban Song or Ban Artist". I've not had an artist I've banned that way come back up in the Android or iOS versions of the app. Those don't ask you that question and just ban the current song. I'm curious to see if my account's learned behavior transfers over to the Tesla version of the application when I setup my account in the car. Sadly since I only confirmed on Tuesday it'll be a while before I can test. :)
Add a +1 for Pandora for me as well.
+1 for Pandora. With added diversity option, the playlist is MUCH more interesting, particularly for obscure music. I have stumbled across some cool things on Slacker, but it's much more rare. I am mainly into odd garage stuff (My Dad is Dead, Helms, Flour, Salem 66, The Ex, Theatre of Hate) with some more contemporary tunes (Metric, Cat Power, Interpol, 365daysofstatic). The baroque playlist is just on my iPhone, along with odd string instruments (Tromba Marina, Viola bastarda, Viola d'amore, Quinton).
A native app for Pandora (or just screen mirroring from iPhone) would be great.
TM will give you your Slacker credentials. With them you can set up your account on a computer or phone, and the settings will transfer to the car. I haven't tried banning an artist or tune, but it might work to make your changes on the computer or phone.
Personally, I would like to see Rhapsody, as I already subscribe to that service.
Have spent a couple years customizing the songs and artist I like. Best feature is the ability to shuffle all or some of your stations. New to Slacker. Have not found that feature yet.
Spotify, Pandora, anything really. Slacker is not terribly impressive. TuneIn is pretty good, though.
Pandora would be a lovely option...
I like to be able to shuffle 60s jazz with classical music. Can't do that on any other service. If no native Pandora in the Model S, then at least a wire audio input jack to play Pandora from an iPhone, not using BlueTooth. BlueTooth doesn't cut it for quality audio.
This was one of the reasons I got an m3 instead of a model s. In my m3 I can rate songs like / dislike, and pause, all from the in vehicle controls, which is AWESOME.
- more expensive. not a deal breaker. The 85 wasn't fast enough. P85 should be, and I need to test drive one, but it's more expensive. Handling was also "meh" in the 85 compared to the m3, but the + should help. P85+ is the most expensive, but still not a deal breaker.
- bass response was poor with the upgraded audio compared to my m3's 850 watt system. I didn't tweak the equalizer on the tesla like I did with my m3 though. I should try that. And if that doesn't work, there might be a decent aftermarket solution that sounds good.
- no rear parking sensor at the time, only a camera. they seemed to have fixed this.
- no way to charge it while living in an apartment, no superchargers in the bay area. They should really have superchargers in palo alto, near a place with restaurants. I don't get it why they don't. You could just go eat lunch and come back to a fully charged car.
Tesla, PLEASE address these issues asap. I really want my next car to be a model s P85+!
How about iTunes radio? Has anyone streamed iTunes radio content via bluetooth? My P85 is 4 weeks out...
You can play Pandora in the Model S through your phone if your phone is Pandora capable. You just won't have all the features on the big screen.
I have. I use my iPad Mini (with LTE) to stream iTunes radio/Pandora/Spotify/iTunes. It works well. I only use bluetooth for some reason I just prefer having control over whats playing when and I don't have any experience with Slacker or TuneIn.
Congratulations! You're going to love the car. It's so much fun.
The problem with using your phone/tablet for streaming music is that you're eating up the data allocation on your phone plan. If you have unlimited data, fine. But most phone companies have a ceiling on data usage to preserve their bandwidth and will slow your data down after it reaches a certain point.
It's also why you can't stream from the browser in the car; they're limiting bandwidth usage. I'm sure Tesla has a deal with XM and Slacker that helps cover their bandwidth. Accordingly, you can't install another App like Pandora or Rhapsody -- only use it via your phone/tablet where you foot the data bill.
I'm going to be very curious to see what Tesla charges after 4 years to re-up their 3G or LTE connection. That beautiful screen and its services is big part of the S experience. I suspect renewal will be pricey, the only other option being to trade your car in for a new Tesla model.
Or wait until free WiFi blankets your driving area.
Tell you what, I will buy a Tesla when Pandora becomes standard in the car. Not interested in back dooring the radio system. I want it standard on the big screen. Thank you!
Tesla needs to consider their entire customer base. Pandora is not available beyond the US border. Not all of us have an iPhone or use iTunes.
I would like to see Pandora added also! And it should not be an issue to forego the software install in cars destined for overseas. If they can deal with right-hand drive, they can deal with a software install or lack of it.
I change my vote. After using slacker for the last year and a half, I prefer it to Pandora. If I had to choose between the 2, I'd take Slacker. I'd be happy to get both though. And Spotify over either.
@rooandy - this car may not be for you.
@rooandy there are about 6 ways to listen to music in Tesla that don't include slacker, including bring-your-own.
Definitely a make-or-break item on a $100,000 state-of-the-automotive-art vehicle. I delayed my purchase a few months until the red touch-up paint vial was available.
I vote Pandora. I echo many of the comments, years customizing stations, less repetitive etc etc. I have Pandora on iPhone using Bluetooth, but need to jack up the volume to listen to the music. One mistake I made when ordering my MS is not getting the entertainment package so I could subscribe to satellite radio. As a 1 month owner of my MS still learning Slacker even though I have it on my iPad and listened to it on occasions. Maybe a paying membership has been options, but still go back to Pandora. Point well taken about $100k car should have more internet radio options.
May nickel for now and let's get Elon to add Pandora
Re tailoring to specifics of each customer, having any smart phone screen mirrored on the 17" should not be that hard. The only issue could be that it may then be possible to stream video, though limiting update frequency to something like every half second or so, could make video viewing impossible.
Re bandwidth, no issue with smart phone. I listen to a lot of Pandora (4-6h a week in car) and a 2GB data plan is plenty, even excessive. I also listen to pandora at work and at home, then though through flat-rate land-line.
I still am waiting for 3rd party developers to getting access to the MS system. It was promised as imminent back when I ordered the car in Jan. 2013. I will be happy to pay for either iPhone interface, or a Pandora MS-native app. If it is part of a free/pre-paid update, even better :-)
Reviving old thread .... I have Pandora on my phone, Pandora on my home stereo, Pandora elsewhere. While Slacker has some nice features, i find the audio quality poor on songs with rapid changes and multiple instruments. Its fine for Blues, bad for rock (IMO). I too would really prefer if Pandora One was accessible in my car.
I too was not impressed with Slacker, and was getting increasing frustrated having to bluetooth stream from my iPhone, while that 17in piece of glass taunted me.
I finally decided to give a paid slacker subscription a try and have to say that I find it actually works very well for me.
It's still annoying as hell that I need to pay for a dedicated subscription for my car - but for now this is just another item on the list of car gripes.
Hopefully the technology in the car will actually reach it's potential so I can finally have the experience I thought I was singing up for when I got the car, before I hand it back in and return to the dark side.
In the meantime I can listen to me tunes and I have a big map.