How long should a normal set of factory-issued 19" tires last?

How long should a normal set of factory-issued 19" tires last?

Yes, I know how you drive can drastically affect tire life, and I hear some folks have had unexpected surprises, but I'm curious how long a normal set of these tires is expected to last assuming I drive normally? I find it odd that people are saying 10-15K miles in some cases; my dad just bought a Ford Focus ST, and he expects his tires to get 15-20K, and they're rated 240. What's the rating on the factory issue tires, and how many miles does that translate to? I see lots of 480 and even 500-540 tires online for $160-200/tire, which is barely more expensive than the mid-range tires (540) I currently have on my Honda Civic, and those go for 60K miles.

AmpedRealtor | June 24, 2013

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe a lot of the low mileage accounts you read around here (15,000 or less between tire changes) apply to the 21" wheels.

carlk | June 24, 2013

You can go to the Tire Rack website. There you can find specs of all tires on the market. I believe the 19" Goodyear tire has a thread life rating of around 400. 21" Conti has a rating of around 300 and Michelin PSII on P+, the same tire I have on my Porsche, has a rating of 220. I got 15000 mile rear and 20000 mile front with a pretty spirited drive but it's a very different car of course.

MarkV | June 24, 2013

Coming up to my 12,000 mile service, my 19" tires look just fine. More wear on the rear than the front but wear across the tread seems to be uniform. I expect rotation will give me at least another 12,000 miles and based on current wear rate probably more.

cybrown | June 24, 2013

When I went for a test drive, the Tesla rep told me to expect 20k-30k on the 19" tires.

machmike | June 24, 2013

These cars are really heavy like Saabs. This means the tires are going to wear a little bit faster than a typical weight sedan.

I would expect about 20-27k in a state with all weather conditions.

Back in the day....I typically was able to get away with 2 tire replacements every 12 months on my 9-3(if i didn't rotate). I found this was much more efficient than rotating after a few years for myself monitarily. After 10 years I purchased 2 extra tires becuase of not rotating, but I didn't mind.

Having said that, if I stayed rotating them as I did the first 4 years, I would get an extra 6k out of the whole set, but would have to purchase and replace all four at once. Which didn't work for my finances at the time.

If you go all sporty and buy Z rated performance tires or something expect a year for the set.

justineet | June 24, 2013

@machmike....weight wise they r kind of like the Mercedes and BMW coupes/Sedans...........

northern-va-dave | July 30, 2013

@yodasminion: I share this concern/question for the 19" tires. I was initially shocked at the low low low tread life reports before realizing it seemed mostly restricted to the 21's and also possible alignment problems on the earlier VINs. But, from what searching I did on volkerize, it still seems like numbers are all over the board. I understand that OEM tires (here, the Goodyears) typically don't last that long, but I would expect 30K-40K on a 3,500lbs. car all variables removed. Given that the MS is 4,700lbs. (not counting occupants/luggage), I'm not sure how much wear / tread life reduction that extra weight on each tire imposes. If I could get 25K on the tires and they're pretty cheap (i.e. tirerack prices quoted elsewhere in these forums), then I'm OK with it. But, sub-20K miles on the 19" tires would be an annoying headache. Based on what I'm reading, there's no way I'd go for the 21" at this point, but that's just me. If anyone can offer additional or updated input / data / wear / treadlife info on the Goodyears on the 19" rims, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks.

hsadler | July 30, 2013

Have no doubt we will reach 25k on these tires based on what we see at 7k. Rotated by Tesla at about 6000. Will continue same schedule. Now all tires look to be wearing the same.

pddhappy | October 17, 2014

I was asked to change my tiles at 17K miles. The one I just changed 9 months ago, and they asked to change as well. It was quite shocking that the 19' tires lasted so short time. I am extremely upset about the quality of the tires. I don't drive much at all. they did normal coronation and alignment regularly. Any comment from any other driver on this issue? I am taking this to Tesla service center to drill down the quality of the tires.

pddhappy | October 17, 2014

I spent over $900 on the tires. Is this normal price or do I must change at Tesla service center? The price is another issue, but the key is the quality of the tires they use on this "high end" cars. :(

tes-s | October 17, 2014

32,000 on my 19" original factory Michelin Primacy. Expect to replace soon.

MileHighMotoring | October 17, 2014

I know this has been said and is common sense but it can't be said enough - maintain proper pressure, check regularly for uneven wear (alignment) and get them rotated regularly. Tires last literally 2-3 times (or more) as long when all of that is taken care of.

Xerogas | October 17, 2014

22,500 miles on my original 19" tires, no appreciable wear. I get them rotated every 5,000 miles

Tabarnouche | October 17, 2014

My tires lasted less than one mile. If you watch this video very closely, you can see how quickly the tread was worn down:

ir | October 17, 2014

19,000 miles
2 original tires
1 flat
1 wore out due to bad alignment (somehow managed to wear on the side wall, revealing steel belt)

Tâm | October 17, 2014


If you've been here long enough, you would know how I drive as I would post my energy consumption pictures periodically.

I used to excessively floor the accelerator and encourage my family and friends to do the same for the first 25,000 miles, but for the latter half, I have done so less for the last 25,000 miles.

I drove with my original 19' Good Year tires for almost 50,000 miles (49,456 to be exact).

My front tires still have 9mm so I am still keep those originals.

My rear tires wore down to 4mm so I went ahead and had two rear tires replaced for the first time (2mm is the threshold for replacement)!

Ddowns2050 | October 17, 2014

I have over 27,000 on the 19" goodyears they still have about 5/32 left.

hpjtv | October 17, 2014

@Tabarnouche you must be loaded and don't mind buying new tires every 1 mile. :)

Tabarnouche | October 17, 2014

My car is like me: it doesn't like wearing rubbers...

George with SacEV | October 17, 2014

I am replacing my original 19" at just over 20,000 miles, BUT some of the wear issues I am looking at is due to me NOT rotating often enough. I am replacing at America's Tires (total cost to replace both REARS due to significant wear on the INSIDE of each rear is $325).

They are telling me to rotate every 5,000 miles which I will follow and I expect to easily get over 30,000 from the fronts and most likely would have seen that overall HAD I ROTATED MORE FREQUENTLY.

OTOH, I have a P85D on order for delivery as soon as Tesla offers other than the black interior, and with that monster tire wear, even with my fairly conservative driving overall will likely be more "traumatic."

BUT even more fun !

Red Sage ca us | October 17, 2014

Tabarnouche: +1 UP! 'A Life of Living Dangerously'...?

centralvalley | October 18, 2014


Ha! Funny :) Your comment reminded me of an incident that happened to me a few years ago.

I had a blowout on one of my tires near Kelbaker Rd. on Interstate 40 about halfway between Barstow and Needles. I put on the skinny "spare" tire and limped into Needles for gas. While I was fueling my car, a mechanic walks over and points to the skinny spare and tells me that they have used tires for sale. He went on to explain that their used tires were better than the three remaining tires on my car.

I said, "Well sir, when I turned 18 (I was about 56 at the time,) my pappy gave me a piece of advice. He told me, 'Son, there are only two things in life you never want to buy used: tires and rubbers.'"

The mechanic slinked away.

Qwiksilver | October 18, 2014

Michelin Primacy 19"
11,000 miles 8/32 on all 4 tires
Even wear, rotated every 5,000 miles

jandkw | October 18, 2014

I had my tires rotated at 6000 miles and tires were in good shape. I was told to replace my rear tires (OEM 19" all season Goodyear) at 12.5K mile service. Tesla SC did check the alignment and they said it's good. I am not a spirited driver and quite disappointed about these tires which doesn't even make it to 20K.

jchangyy | October 18, 2014

Goodyear 19" factory
22k with 6/32.

Had to replace a pair due to nail in the middle.

$119/tire + installation: $297 total for 2 tires.

my guess is they would've lasted 35-40k miles.

KidDoc | October 18, 2014

At 14,000 miles and I get them rotated every 5,000 at a local discount tire for the cost of their tire insurance I bought when I got the Tesla. I see no significant wear at all and due for next rotation within the next month.

I did drive in some rain recently and the model S does like to get a little slick with all the torque it puts out. The traction control kicks in very quickly though.

inverts | October 18, 2014

Original Goodyear and second set of Michelin Primacy (rear only) lasted about 18K each, with the proper rotation. With Michelin 30K thread warranty, I just got a check of $250 in the mail, so the rear set was half price. Took a good month for all the paperwork to go through.

Brian H | October 18, 2014

slunk away

DannyM | October 18, 2014

I have 40K miles on my MS85 (Signature) and I just had my third set of tires installed. On the last set, The tires looked OK from the outside but, as the service rep pointed out, they were so worn on the inside, that they were close to a blowout (thread was showing). He said that the uneven wear was normal because of the way the wheels are aligned (the camber). Doesn't sound right to me though that the wear should be so uneven.

Jolanda | October 19, 2014

I wonder what is happening with your tires. We have driven our P85 on the factory Goodyear 19" for more than 15.000 miles (25.000 km) in The Netherlands. We still have over 6.6 mm (0,261 Inch) on all tires.

There is also no vissible wear on the inside of the rear tires. We have some extra wear on the middle of the thread, but all our cars had this extra wear in the past. I suppose that this happens on the German Autobahn when we drive high speeds (over 200 km/h 120Mph?) for long distances.

With this ammount of wear on the tires, we expect to get at least 40.000 miles out of the first set. I rotate the tires once a year, when changing back from winter tires (last winter we drove only an extra 2000 miles on the winter tires due to the soft winter.)

I had reserved budget for new tires every year, but I assume that we can spend this money on our next Tesla fund... :-)

Brian H | October 19, 2014

Extra center wear is a sign of over-inflation, AFAIK. Inflate when cool, not on the road.

jordanrichard | October 19, 2014

Yes, center wear is signs of over inflation and wear on the outer edges is a sign of under inflation.

I had my car in for a software issue when I was at about 11,500 miles. I asked if they could rotate the tires since they were last done at 5K. They checked the tread depth and oddly the rears had more tread than the fronts, so they left them as is. So apparently they don't just rotate tires just for the sake of rotating.

hubertz | October 19, 2014

My original rears lasted 13000 mi without rotation.

I did not see the old tires but was told by Tesla service center the belts were showing. They said the alignment was OK. Replaced two Goodyear Eagles for $460 with no tread wear warranty.

I complained about short tire life, high cost to replace, and no warranty to no avail. Only time I was not happy with Tesla as many others on forums.

Gluaisrothai | October 19, 2014

S85 on 19". Changed all 4 at 29000 miles; I might have eked out another 3-4k but got a bad puncture and needed to replace at least that one tire, so decided against the mismatch. Most driving was Bay Area commuting on 880 @75mph or stop and go.

Haggy | October 19, 2014

Primacy tires have almost 1000 miles on them and no signs of wear. Considering that my tire shop told me that they saw MS need new tires in as little as 3000 miles, I take that as a good sign.

I'll still have to get used to the idea of getting down on my hands and knees to check tire pressure when cars that are a fraction of the price can display it on the dashboard or screen. I would expect Tesla to show them to me on my phone's app or even on the website, but I'm no better equipped to check pressures than I am to check them on a 1965 Buick. | October 19, 2014

From all this, it's clear your undamaged 19" tires will last somewhere between 10,000 to 50,000 miles. I've got 20K on my first set, and expect to get maybe another 5,000.

Factors affecting wear include:
1) Under-inflation or over-inflation
2) Rough road surfaces
3) High road temperatures
4) Lots of jack-rabbit starts (gotta have some fun)
5) Travels with lots of sharp high-speed turns vs mostly straight
6) Potholes
7) Poor alignment
8) Lots of fast braking vs slow regen stops

Your mileage will vary! These various factors make it very hard to compare one user's tire wear with another.

For those with 21" tires, expect about half the life of the 19" tires, as the rubber is very soft to be very gripy. This is true of most sports cars with similar tires.

Newampster | October 19, 2014

My MS85 19" has had regular tire rotations at 5k and 10k, but I was late for the 15k. At 18k, I had steel belts visible all the way around the inside edge of the rear tires. I thought low mileage was reserved for 21's, wrong!

crmohler | October 19, 2014

MS60 with factory 19", tire rotations by Tesla every 5,000-7,000 miles. I have 23,400 miles on them and, at last check, they still looked great. The SC thought I'd get at least another 5,000+ miles out of them.

DavidN | October 19, 2014

I just got 26,000 miles out of a set of factory Good Years on an 85 with 19-inch wheels.

Will be upgrading to the Michelins.

shs | October 19, 2014

I had Primacies that were down to 4/32 after 13,000 miles with even wear (3 rotations). I was about to drive from CA to Michigan across the Rocky Mountains and didn't want to do so with minimal tread in case we experienced snow. Michelin discounted the next set of tires by a bit over $400 and I bought Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3s for my stock 19" wheels. 6000 miles later I could be happier with the Pilot Sports. We didn’t experience snow, but they were very stable in heavy rain passing 18 wheelers throwing lots of water our way. As “Ultra High Performance All Seasons" they seem to handle much better than the Primacies. I’ll have them rotated in the next few days and check for wear.

Brian H | October 19, 2014

"I could not be happier" (= I am as happy as it's possible to be).

Devin B | October 19, 2014

I am at 26,000 miles on original 19" tires. I think they were rotated once and were at 5/32" around 22,000.

Hoping to get 30,000 from them

Andrew_OH_S60andS70D | October 20, 2014

I took delivery in March 2013, and am just crossing 50,000 miles. I am just now replacing two of my original Goodyear tires. My two rear Goodyear tires only lasted about 20,000, but I chalk that up to the way the original rear alignment was set up. I replaced those two with the Michelin Primacy tires, which I believe are now the standard from the factory.

Jolanda | October 20, 2014

@Brian H.

Yes, over-inflation will bring the same tire wear as high speed driving. The pressure is always spot on. I know how important the right pressure is for comfort, road handling and tire wear.

The problem is that the tire will heat up when driving fast, so in the end you will be driving over-inflated tires at high speed. Also will the middle of the tread be forced outward by the centrifugal force.

You cannot under-inflate your tire to protect it for over-pressure at high speed. That would buildup heat much faster in the tires and cause exploding tires.

kawdennis | October 20, 2014

My P85 has the Michelin primacy 19" I have 19,800 on them - on my last tire rotation @ Tesla they mentioned something like lots of burnt rubber in the rear wheel wells my best guess Is I will need a new set at about 23,000 miles

dr_gko | October 20, 2014

I have about 29K miles on my original 19' Goodyears, mostly highway miles. These were not used during winter. Rotated every 6K miles. Had rotation done a couple of days ago. Three tires had 5-6/32 tread left. One tire was 4-5/32. The center area had the least tread, edges holding out a bit better. Might be able to squeeze in a couple of thousand miles before getting a new set. Thinking about the new Pirellis.

Mathew98 | October 20, 2014

My Goodyear 19" didn't last a year or 9000 miles in the rear. So not a good year.

The negative cam settings in the rear wheels did a number to the inside treads. Modified camber bolts and 2014 models should perform a bit better.

I met an owner who has over 30K miles on his 21" wheels. His secret is to rotate tires every 5K miles and to switch the tires from the inside to outside, not just from to back.

DTsea | October 20, 2014

I have 30k miles on mine. Still looking good. Rotate every 6k.

Haggy | October 20, 2014

I didn't see anything on the console about settings for maintenance reminders for things such as tire rotations. Am I looking in the wrong place, or is it another case of Tesla leaving out the obvious that all other vehicles have these days?

NKYTA | October 20, 2014

Haggy, just put it in your calendar. :-)