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Sabotage reported at Fremont factory

Sabotage reported at Fremont factory

wiboater4 | June 18, 2018

Just read that. Will be interesting to see who all is involved.

deezeela | June 18, 2018

this might explain why each (batch) of Model 3 has different issues

carlk | June 18, 2018

No question there are people who want Tesla to die.

Mike83 | June 18, 2018

Good that they are catching these criminals and if they are paid by some shorts we might have a squeeze much sooner. Time to take the gloves off.

calvin940 | June 18, 2018

There are going to be people like this in any organization whether it is connected to the old regime or not.

You can't get away from shitty human beings no matter where you go because there are plenty. Hopefully he gets the book thrown at him.

Flanmansd | June 18, 2018

Phil, you're a hoot... LOL :^)

sbeggs | June 18, 2018

@phil,
I'm not supposed to laugh, but I did.

SamO | June 18, 2018

I'd take it to the bank. Place your short bets. The best new item online today is that the shorts are resting their case that the tent only has a permit for 6 months.

cascadiadesign | June 18, 2018

Walk him toward one of the stamping machines for a little massage. He'll talk.

pierpont | June 18, 2018

this dude is in for a very bad month/summer ahead when his name is revealed. As someone on Reddit said, this idiot wanted a promotion and is now demoted to federal prison.

Mike83 | June 18, 2018

I recall the 007 movie Casino Royale with D. Craig. The short was $200 million and the plan was to blow up the Prototype jet which didn't work and the short lost all his money; trouble was it was an investment made with a brutal entity and the movie goes on from there. Great film.
Now the real life enemies of Tesla will hopefully get caught which might be good for them if they lost money from some unforgiving investors. This could be a movie.

SamO | June 18, 2018

By the way . . . employee admitted to the sabotage:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/18/elon-musk-email-employee-conducted-exten...

KP in NPT | June 18, 2018

Damn. I hope it was just a disgruntled employee and that he wasn't actually working for someone else.

dmm1240 | June 18, 2018

"Damn. I hope it was just a disgruntled employee and that he wasn't actually working for someone else."

On would hope. Who did he send to stolen code to?

KP in NPT | June 18, 2018

@dmm - exactly.

pierpont | June 18, 2018

pretty sure this is the reason that the 18.16 update slowed everyone's cars down

TranzNDance | June 18, 2018

He was trying to get a promotion at the company to where he was sending data.

Atoms | June 18, 2018

Need to implement a sign off system for revisions released to production. It is possible to release software which will damage robots, so this would assure with 3 approvals (email or phone text) would eliminate individual sabotage. Also this is a true quality system when software is required to be approved before release. Programmers have much to much power in release of critical software. Usually does not meet basic ISO9001 requirements. Unfortunately too many don’t even know how to appropriately read quality standards when it comes to software.

michael | June 18, 2018

Elon is getting paranoid like the Man in Black - we do know he's a big Westworld fan. Yes, it could be industrial espionage by Big Oil or Big Auto but it could also simply be a disgruntled employee who snapped under torturous work conditions and low morale. Occam's Razor says it's likely to be the later...

carlk | June 18, 2018

@TranzNDance That's a good one. Wonder what company is that.

TranzNDance | June 18, 2018

As someone pointed out, a company that would cheat on emissions tests and sell cars that pump out extra toxins in the air is probably not going to have any qualms about stealing code.

dd.micsol | June 19, 2018

mean people suck. I suspect same thing happened to that mccomack car.

dd.micsol | June 19, 2018

@michael-if he was so unhappy he could have just quit. WTF is wrong with people today?!

Madatgascar | June 19, 2018

Yeah, Occam’s Razor would suggest more at play if secrets were sent outside. Billions at stake, you don’t think employees are being tempted?

Saboteur needs to sing or get maximum penalty of the law.

gballant4570 | June 19, 2018

Hmmmm...... wonder where phil and mos live?

KP in NPT | June 19, 2018

gallant - LOL!! BAK has been suspiciously absent lately.....

leo33 | June 19, 2018

I think they live in St Petersburg, so it's probably not them.

sbeggs | June 19, 2018

Together?

jjgunn | June 19, 2018

HAHAHHAHHAH - good one sbeggs. Bay area humor for sure.

Elon is f'ing with billionaires & their billions. It'll probably get worse before it gets better. Those a-holes will murder & not think twice about it.

How do we all put the pressure back on them? More people buying Tesla products. MORE PEOPLE!
The wave will be tsunami sized.

mos6507 | June 19, 2018

"Sounds like pre-emptive excuse-making for the next production rate failure. Watch for another big story next week: "The Dog ate my Assembly Line""

I have visions of Tanya Harding lifting her leg up and crying while pointing to her loose shoelace.

As far as what Elon says, he's confusing big oil/short conspiracy theories with little more than disgruntled worker who wanted a promotion.

I am starting to wonder whether all the stress and sleep deprivation on Elon's part is really screwing with his judgment.

Magic 8 Ball | June 19, 2018

@mos6507

If you are referring to the alleged "memo" it was internal memo to employees. Elon clearly stated what the motivation was for the sabotage (employee overlooked for promotion) and then took the "opportunity" to use it as a piece of red meat to dangle before everyone to keep an eye out.

You are the one who is confused about what you think Elon is confused about.

Mike83 | June 19, 2018

If you respond to the troll you only get more lies; best to ignore the trolls and russian bots.

Magic 8 Ball | June 19, 2018

Trolls are more effective when they are ignored. Trolls rely on getting their message out to the masses that read but don't participate. When a troll goes unchallenged the masses only read the messaging from the trolls and not the opposition.

TranzNDance | June 19, 2018

@douwe +1. Thank you to the troll hunters!

mos6507 | June 19, 2018

"You are the one who is confused about what you think Elon is confused about."

BS. He comes across like someone who got mugged who starts thinking maybe the FBI is out for him. It's Randy Quaid Star Whackers territory.

Magic 8 Ball | June 19, 2018

@mos6507

I think you are confused about what you see in the mirror vs what you think you see in Elon

ravisundaramam | June 19, 2018

@douwe: trolls also cry for attention and they have no sense of shame.

Ideally, ignore the troll, deny them the gratification, but rebut the points. Ideally show no emotion. Even being ridiculed is percieved as, "they notice me! heee! hee!"

TeslaTap.com | June 19, 2018

Interesting that neither mos or phil refute living in Russia (or together)! Not sure there is any reason to believe anything they say, but perhaps they are the same person. Never seen a positive or useful statement from either one. I think @leo nailed it!

sbeggs | June 19, 2018

@TeslaTap,

T-hee!

Madatgascar | June 19, 2018

Come on mos. If he sent a lot of code to an outside email address, then he is working with someone outside. Duh, because it’s worth a lot of money.
“If you get caught, tell them you were upset that you were overlooked for a promotion.” Because that’s a great reason to surreptitiously send corporate secrets to nobody in particular.

Madatgascar | June 19, 2018

What Elon said was exactly the right way to handle it. He admit that in most cases these things are the work of a sole disgruntled employee but said it was best to investigate fully and be mindful that a lot of very powerful interests want Tesla to fail.

KP in NPT | June 19, 2018

Thank you for being rational, Madatgascar.

ReD eXiLe ms us | June 19, 2018

I tend to think the Occam's Razor concept is misused at least as often as that of someone being called a Nihilist, Narcissist, or Nietzschean.

That which is obvious is not always so and just because you don't believe something that may not mean it isn't true.

That said, anyone that chose to sabotage Tesla without being paid very well before the attempt is kind of dumb.

ravisundaramam | June 19, 2018

@ReD eXiLe ms us: But the shorts got a mild reprieve, 5% drop today because of the uncertainity of the ramp.

Market does not know whether it is a set up for "dog ate my assembly line" or not. Elon said "extensive" damage, but did not say we can correct it and meet the ramp up target.

65% held by institutions and 25% by insiders. 10% by individuals. The big boys will call Tesla investor relations and know the extent of the damage and the impact on the ramp up target. Stabilized after a 5% drop. Let us see how the market reacts tomorrow.

Nexxus | June 22, 2018

@ddmicsol,

"@michael-if he was so unhappy he could have just quit. WTF is wrong with people today?!"

Self-entitlement at it's finest. The need to feel one is owed something rather than earning it.