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Model 3 - what are 1 and 2?

Model 3 - what are 1 and 2?

My thought is that model 1 was the roadster, and S/X are variants on the model 2. Or are S 1 and X2? Where would this leave roadster?

Chunky Jr. | April 23, 2016

I'd say the former.

TeslaTap.com | April 23, 2016

Originally it was supposed to be the Model E, but Ford claimed they had the rights to "E" (which seems a bit extreme), so Tesla swapped it around and it's a 3. Conveniently the 3 lines "E" logo (See the E in Tesla) also works for the Model 3!

It has nothing to do with prior models.

KevinR.co.us | April 23, 2016

TeslaTap.com has your answer above. The 3 was always a way to get the E in these SEXY cars....

Remnant | April 23, 2016

@ KevinR.co.us (April 23, 2016)

<< The 3 was always a way to get the E in these SEXY cars. >>

So M3 is really M☰ because ☰ is E, which will certainly allay Ford's sense of ownership of E.

Very straightforward, isn't it. And reassuring to boot: Goliath has been defeated!

Now, before he wakes up, can someone tell me what the MY is/was supposed to be like?

mrdaniel | April 23, 2016

TeslaTap is right, but for polemics:

“We had the model S for sedan and X for crossover SUV, then a friend asked what we were going to call the third car,” Musk told us. “So I said we had the model S and X, we might as well have the E."
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/tesla/model-3/87867/new-tesla-model-3-price...

Note he says "third car." What Chunky said is reasonable, but after reading that and reflecting it seems the roadster was kind of a prototype model, so distinct from the Tesla we know today: lotus body and a hacked together electrical and battery system. Nothing like the engineering that went into the S, X, and ☰.

yongliangzhu68 | April 24, 2016

TeslaTap.com: Ford doesn't have a trademark ® on E it is on "Model E" Tesla uses 'Model x' as it name and not just the letter/number they way companies like Mercedes do. Ford started this with the 'Model A' and then the 'Model T'. Ford first built the 'Model A 'in 1903 and probably trademarked ® several other Model x including Model E thinking it would stick with that nomenclature.

yongliangzhu68 | April 24, 2016

Just to add Tesla could have called the car E but I bet Mercedes has 'E Series" trademarked ®. So Tesla would have to come up with some other official name like "Tesla E or 'E Sedan" or..... Of course this breaks Tesla's 'Model x' nomenclature just to call it an E.

I think Tesla really did a great job in using Model 3, since 3 and E are so similar and most coincidentally of all the Tesla font makes a perfect 'Model ☰'.

Supraman | April 24, 2016

During the Model 3 Unveil Event, in relation to his "Secret Master Plan", Elon said "It was originally a trilogy, now it's a four-part trilogy".

He goes on to say "Step 1 was the Roadster".
He then talks about the Model S, although he doesn't refer to it as Step 2.
He then says "About half the market wants a sedan and about half the market wants an SUV so we thought, well, we'll extend the Model S platform into the Model X".
And finally he says,"Going from the S and the X, we finally come to Step 3. The final step in the Master Plan, which is a mass market affordable car".

He then concludes by re-showing the Master Plan graphic, which depicts all 4 cars, and saying "So, that's the master plan, with steps 2 and 2.5".

So, that's the definitive answer:

Model 1 is the Roadster
Model 2 is the Model S
Model 2.5 is the Model X
Model 3 is the....I feel like I should know this! :-)

The above information can be found between 03:20 and 09:48 on the video.

Supraman | April 24, 2016

In retrospect, perhaps I should have used the word "Step" instead of "Model" in my summary at the end, but you get the gist of it!

Supraman | April 24, 2016

So, my interpretation of this is that the Model 3 was always intended to be the 3rd step in a 3-step plan and the stars just aligned when they couldn't use the E name and realised that the E in their logo (☰) could be substituted for the E and re-designated as a 3, as described above. Genius.

mrdaniel | April 24, 2016

Good point. I think that seals it that ☰ is arbitrary and convenient.

jordanrichard | April 25, 2016

Supraman, I suppose an easier way to look at it is by platform. Since the S and X share the same platform, that could be viewed as the same "part/generation". Also, don't be surprised if a "CUV" comes out based on the M≡ platform, but that would still be considered 3rd generation

1. Roadster
2. MS/MX
3. M≡/M≡X

Anyone familiar with Corvettes, they too go by series/generations be it C1, C4, C6 etc. Within each generation of Corvette, the look changes a bit, but it is still the same car, until a new series come out.