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S85 Owners: Do you wish you had bought S60 instead

S85 Owners: Do you wish you had bought S60 instead

I have read almost every post regarding 60 vs 85. I have posted my own question as well as I am in the final days of deciding and am in the window between ordering and finalizing with few days remaining. I see that many 60 owners like having 60, some say that they would rather order 85 now. I am interested to find out if there are 85 owners who have not used super charger option, who did not need last 60 miles until now, whose need were really fulfilled by 60 but bought 85 just because they may need it and in case...
Do you regret ordering 85 and will you choose 60 or do you still think that in future you may need 85 and so you made the right decision? Or just the comfort of having 85 is worth 10K?

stevenmaifert | December 14, 2013

While I rarely need the range afforded by my 85, I like having the peace of mind that it's there when I do. No regrets on paying the extra.

Tesla-David | December 14, 2013

After 11+ months of total bliss in my S85, absolutely no regrets about the extra $10k for the bigger battery and range. I have much less range anxiety, and planning trips are less stressful!

Bighorn | December 14, 2013

The 85kWh battery doesn't do anything for me until the superchargers are built-out, but I'd be pretty bummed when that day came and I was still sitting at home with an S60. I can't wait to road trip in the P85+. I also got the dual chargers for those times when an 80A charge from a Tesla store or a friendly owner's HPWC would come in handy.

skymaster | December 14, 2013

I could not make it to the "outlaws" without the 85. I will always buy the biggest battery pack...period.

Eletrek | December 14, 2013

No regrets at all and today is birthday for my S85 with just under 20k of smiles.

Captain_Zap | December 14, 2013

Happy Birthday Eletrek!

Low CG | December 14, 2013

No regrets. BEAT ARMY.

tezzla.SoCal | December 14, 2013

If I added a second Tesla for my wife, it would be a 60. Although, if we get a Model X, that would be our travel car and it would need to be an 85 (or bigger?).

Big T | December 14, 2013

I've yet to use the extra range because I've arranged my life to not need it. But I can't predict how needs will change over the life of the car. I'll never regret having more range.

JoeFee | December 14, 2013

VERY glad I bought the P85….go all the way!

oo7 | December 14, 2013

Price of S60 lured me in. Option creeped up all the way to a P85 before finalizing my order, and finally I settled on the S85. No regrets whatsoever. Visit the in-laws regularly on 200 mile round trips with no range anxiety or bugging them to plug in their dryer outlet! Would do it again the same choice. Sometimes I pull up next to a fast sports car and wish I had the P85, but then I think of what else I did with the extra $15k and I don't mind those fleeting moments of regret due to testosterones at all! If you're struggling with it I'd get the 85 if it won't break the bank.

omarsultan.ca.us | December 14, 2013

Nope

Captain_Zap | December 14, 2013

@oo7

Did you get the 007 package through TeslaTuner?

http://www.teslatuner.com/

coreenbooth | December 14, 2013

None. I've pushed the limits on a number of occasions. Can't imagine living with the stress of the shorter range. But that's just me. For instance, I let my kid borrow the car and f course, he forgot to hook it into the charger at home. I still had plenty of range for work plus the errands I had planned. If I had owned the 60, my son would have endured parental wrath!

JeterL | December 14, 2013

None. Love my P85.

Chunky Jr. | December 14, 2013

No regrets at all. If they had a 100kWh version available for another $10K, I would have gone with that.

Part of my thinking when I got the 85 was that if I may not need it for day to day, but when I really need it, I'll be glad I had it. And that the resale value of the car would be higher, and possibly make the price difference a wash.

AlMc | December 14, 2013

amitb00: Pretty clear. There have been many threads comparing the various configurations and what people like/don't like; regret having/not having.

IMHO, there are NO 'bad' configurations for an MS. It is a great car. That said, you will find people who regret not getting an 85 but I have yet to find someone with an 85 that wishes they got the 60 instead.

tes-s | December 14, 2013

No. I use the full range of the 85 often. If I did not need range, I would buy the 60.

Pungoteague_Dave | December 14, 2013

We use full range of S85 all the time. Would like 120amp, could not live with 60. People seem to forget battery degradation over time. The real question is could you live with a 60 or 85 at 70% of original capacity? That's what TM says they warranty the batteries to provide.

JPPTM | December 14, 2013

Nope.

gekkota | December 14, 2013

I sure could. And will - with my new 60 delivered this week. Guess I am in the minority of driving less than 750 miles per week..

Suprkar | December 14, 2013

At first ordered 60 then before final went to 85, not sorry. If you can afford it I would go for it. More is better?

sweetmanpe | December 14, 2013

Real world range mandates the 85 for me. Beach house is 90 miles away with an up and down. No winter worries in the 85 but would be creeping with a 60 to make it without a charge midway.

louis | December 14, 2013

Well, it came handy when I pulled into the Ft. Meyers, FL supercharger with 8 miles in the battery.

inverts | December 15, 2013

60 would not cut it for me. Have 144 miles round trip commute, and now as it is getting colder, Wh/mi goes up quite a bit. Now I get home with about 60 miles from 227 standard charge. If I do some errands during the day, even less. Given that battery will decline over the years, I need that cushion. I am looking forward to the MS120 or the MS150.

bradslee | December 15, 2013

If TM had a version MS120 in 2012, I would go for that. No regret bought S85 and looking forward to the happy birthday of my S85 very soon.

oo7 | December 15, 2013

@Captain_Zap

Yes I've got Teslatuner.com on my favorites list in the car, thanks! Lol

michael1800 | December 15, 2013

I bought the 85 though I was considering the 60. I still haven't used the superchargers yet (due to my location), and don't really need an 85 for daily driving, but that extra range really came in handy for road trips (I do have dual chargers, but have never used anything over a 14-50). For me, those extra few miles put several places within 1-session range (roughly 4-hrs away, one of these places is a Service Center). The 60 would have me getting a charge before a few major cities.

Long story short: If superchargers were fully deployed, it probably wouldn't be worth 10k for me. Currently, however, it's very worth it. When the SCs do roll out in my area, I will still not regret it--60 miles may not seem like much, but it makes planning much less tight.

jemartin | December 15, 2013

I have the S85 and 13K on the odometer. My weekly commute is probably 200 miles/week, but I've done many 200+ mile trips along the East Coast, which would have been difficult and totally impractical with the 60 model. No regrets whatsoever. And so far I'm glad I didn't get the second charger...

Araujor20 | December 15, 2013

I bought a S85 for practicality. I wish that I could of justified P85. I have used SC only once in Barstow . At first I contemplated over ordering a S60 or S85. I have no regrets. I'm glad I bought the bigger battery it is well worth the peace of mind. I would of not been able to make an un planned trip to Arizona in a S60.

Tosca | December 15, 2013

Only as a second car. Love the range on current S85. Having taken long trips ending with just 8 miles of range. Could,not do that with a 60. However, that said, when I buy my second MS it will truly be a commuter car and will not need the range.

Brian H | December 15, 2013

Subsidiary question: how many are glad they got the 85 because it accommodates the urge to drive more and take "the long way around", which they never did before?

Haeze | December 15, 2013

Living in Colorado Springs, the S85 has been well worth the extra cash. I would say if you can afford it, get it.

While a 60kWh would get me to Denver and back (80 or so miles), it would limit my ability to drive while I am up there, or it would force me to recharge while up there. I like the peace of mind knowing that I can get there, drive wherever I wish to go, and back, even if all charging stops are full.

The extra performance afforded by the higher powered battery really makes it a lot more fun too.

kafahsholtz | December 15, 2013

We have no regrets in purchasing an S85 (have had the car almost a year now). I also was on the fence between an S60 and S85, decided for the larger battery primarily due to performance and peace of mind.

We've also driven the P85, and also have no regrets in not upgrading to that model. The S85 is plenty quick, I smoked a tuned GTI on a freeway onramp yesterday. My ten year old daughter was not amused.

Our only regret is not purchasing the Tecnology package. The P85 loaner had that, which is very cool.

Kevin

Cindy I II III | December 15, 2013

No

DC_POWRD | December 15, 2013

After having a Nissan Leaf for 2 years with range anxiety, you would never want to cut yourself short on range. I met a 60 owner the other day who loved her car but worried about taking weekend trips to Madera from El Dorado Hills, CA; in fact, she got so low on a trip she went to a Nissan to charge and did so ever so slowly. In net, don't leave yourself limited and keep in mind that even a SuperCharger station may be full when you get there. With the $2K SuperCharger credit, the $8000 difference will be well worth it.

merico | December 15, 2013

No regrets!. Drove from LA to Vegas using supercharger. Drive LA to San Diego often too!

James- | December 15, 2013

I have 85 - no regrets, would have got higher capacity if it was available.

RZitrin1 | December 15, 2013

Oh my goodness, no!

TeslaLandShark | December 15, 2013

When I started following Tesla a couple years ago I thought, wow, look at that awesome model S. I can get it for less than $50K after incentives and it will go 160 miles on a charge (ideal miles for a 40). As it got closer to reality I thought, hmm, for only $10K more I can get an S60. That bad boy can go 230 miles on a charge (ideal again). And then it was hmm, for only $8K more (subtracting out $2K for super charging capability) I could get an S85 that can go 300 miles.

Realized somewhere along the line that the ideal miles rating is fantasy for everyone except maybe that Robert dude in Sweden who loves to coast in neutral. I can get about 250 miles of real world range on my S85. Definitely no regrets versus going with a S60.

jackhub | December 15, 2013

Nope!

jackhub | December 15, 2013

Sorry. Nope, I would not change my mind and buy a 60.

JaredBanyard | December 15, 2013

I went with the 60 because I am going to buy a car for the 98% of commuting I'm going to be doing in it, not the %2 of drive that are road trips.

I'll save the $10k and get the extra options I want. In 5 years, when technology and batteries have improved, I may have the option of a new/better battery. $10k for those 2 days a year I need a little extra range isn't worth it to me.

The supercharger going in between us and the beach will make those trips a breeze and our out-of-town family put chargers in for us.

My2Cents

kolajide | December 15, 2013

No regrets with the 60. My wife uses it for daily driving and we use our other car (ICE) for long road trips. Didn't honestly see any reason to pay 10k extra for 85. Put into consideration that you will still pay taxes on vehicle registration etc... The car is expensive but we love it!!!

Newampster | December 15, 2013

Captain Zap, thanks for tesla tuner.com. It adds a new level of fun to taking friends for a ride.

Amitb00, I drove 60 miles to a mall in 9 degree weather. 230 at start. Down at my normal 75-80 mph. Had 110 for return. Part way back I had 32 mi delta, between actual and rated miles. When it hit 20, I dropped to 50 mph and shut the heat off. I made it home with 17 mi left. Glad I have an M85, but I had no idea cold weather would require so much juice.

Brit.l.T | December 15, 2013

Having both a 60 and p85 I will always say the p85 is a better option for cold climates with snow. It just warms up really fast and I have more drive when I need it . Plus the extra miles for when temperature eats up miles is a bonus.

DonS | December 15, 2013

In just 9 months with our 85, we have made more than a dozen weekend trips to various destinations that would have been impossible or nearly so with a 60. Each of these trips saved $90-$125 in gasoline compared to driving our ICE vehicle.

jai9001 | December 16, 2013

I believe that the resale value in 3 to 5 years will be much greater on an 85. Especially if there is some degree of battery degradation.

I think the 85 owners will likely get most, but not all of that 8k back at the time of sale.

Tesla already guarantees 50%.

jat | December 16, 2013

Absolutely not - I have run down to single digits range on several trips (not to mention track days, where the 85 is barely adequate while charging between sessions to run the whole day). I just got back from a trip to visit friends, where we had to charge an hour at L2 while eating to be able to make it there driving 60 (the temperature was in the 30s and quite a bit higher elevation), so it simply wouldn't have been practical without the 85. Maybe once Superchargers are actually built on the routes I take it would be viable with a 60, but I have zero regrets about buying the 85.

breading | December 16, 2013

I was initially attracted by the price point of the 40 which with gas savings compared favorably to 30K sedans. Then, option creep took hold and I ended up with a P85.

I've taken it on several road trips -- one of which was 1,000 miles round trip without superchargers. Wouldn't have done these with a 60 much less a 40.

Zero regrets.

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