Toyota Rav4 EV w/Tesla Powertrain and Batteries

Toyota Rav4 EV w/Tesla Powertrain and Batteries

The driver said specifically that it has a Model S electric motor.

Larry Chanin | August 5, 2012

Green Car Congress, good information about Toyota's approach to the EV market.

Toyota RAV4 EV key for meeting California ZEV requirements; Tesla powertrain uses Model S components


Brian H | August 5, 2012

Here's another of their RAV4EV articles:

The 2012 Toyota RAV4 EV has the potential to be the best and most practical battery electric vehicle sold in the U.S. south of Tesla's luxury-priced Model S sedan range.

Brian H | August 5, 2012

Worth noting from the above Test Drive article: they found the range estimator accurate within 1 mile in all excursions. And a full battery, extrapolated for non AC-heating use, predicted 158 miles! 118 on most economical AC use setting.

That just blows away the non-Tesla competition, IMO.

Brian H | August 5, 2012

And here's an article with more RAV4 EV tech data and discussion than you ever wanted, 'less you're a hard-core car geek!

Example detail: At 0.30 Cd, RAV4 EV achieves the lowest coefficient of drag of any SUV in the world.

David70 | August 5, 2012

3.0 Cd?

Brian H | August 5, 2012

It sez 0.30. Where did 3.0 come from?
From Wiki:

The average modern automobile achieves a drag coefficient of between 0.30 and 0.35. SUVs, with their typically boxy shapes and larger frontal area, typically achieve a Cd of 0.35–0.45. A very gently inclined windshield gives a lower drag coefficient but has safety disadvantages, including reduced driver visibility. Certain cars can achieve figures of 0.25–0.30, although sometimes designers deliberately increase drag to reduce lift.

David70 | August 5, 2012

Sorry, I was remembering incorrectly the Cd of the Model S. So yes, 0.30 seems consistent with the ~0.22 of the Model S.

brianman | August 5, 2012

@David70 - FYI, that was revised to "~0.24".

Timo | August 5, 2012

~0.24 was before it was changed to ~0.22. I don't think anybody outside Tesla actually knows what it is. Estimations are all you can find in the net.

brianman | August 5, 2012

@Timo - My recollection is that it's the opposite order (.22 is the older, .24 is the newer).

Do you have a reference for ~0.22 that's newer than May 9, 2012?
This is quite amazing and results largely from the Model S having the best aerodynamics of any sedan in its class with a Cd of approximately 0.24.

Timo | August 6, 2012

No, but I have quite a lot older reference for it being 0.24. 0.22 didn't appear before one Elon interview where he said 0.225 (point two two five). Revised and then revised again.

jerry3 | August 6, 2012

The 0.22 was from when there were holes by the side markers to reduce pressure in the wheel wells. These were eliminated (likely for ease of manufacturing but that's a guess on my part) and the cd went up to 0.24, which is the last number I've heard.

Volker.Berlin | August 7, 2012

The last post in this thread from June 23rd, 2012 mentions two sources for the .24 value: