What would you choose if you intended to get a base M3 when making a reservation?
Should Tesla offer both versions if it costs the same to produce?
Cloth seats ARE the vegan seats. Why do you refer to them as if they are different?
So, the seats only eat vegetables? How often do they have to eat?
I'd pay extra for seats made from vegan skins!
"Are they made from REAL Girl Scouts?"
Elon's already said that the min range would be 215 miles
He's also said that Tesla would not make another sub-200 mile car, so I think Tesla is providing over your expectations!
Also, dual motors INCREASE range.
Thank you kindly.
Lets me put the question another way ... If Tesla offered 140-mile EV range, dual motors (awd), and vegan (synthetic leather) seats for $35K base M3, would you still reserve one?
If it costs Tesla the same or less to produce this model, it may make sense for both Tesla and (most) consumers (and environment) ... Lighter, faster, safer, less ion lithium used (35KWh instead of 55KWh) ...
If Tesla offered 140-mile EV range, dual motors (awd), and vegan (synthetic leather) seats for $35K base M3 ... AT THE UNVEIL in March, would you still reserve one?
how did you come up w 140 range?
@David N, Quote: "how did you come up w 140 range?"
By not paying attention to what Musk has said.
Definitely not, if I wanted a crappy range car I'd be a Leaf, Volt or Bolt.
@David N - Reducing the battery pack by 1/3 (to about 35-40KWh) together with dual motors may achieve 140-150 mile range.
This would save Tesla about $5K-$6K battery manufacturing cost. I estimate dual motor and synthetic leather cost Tesla about $3K-$4K (2 small motors VS. 1 big motor).
Every M3 out the door would be modern, safter, and faster (with reduced EV range of course). Then there will be battery upgrade option (hopefully snap-on upgrade pack) for those who want more range in the future...
Somehow I never want to see Tesla with cloth seats. No offense to MS owners with cloth seats, but we need to find the material to replace that dust-trapping cloth and still offer comfort for most ...
Elon has said he'd never go below a 200 mile range, so there's that.
slasher016: A Volt's range is 420 miles and a Bolt is going to be relatively the same as the M3's. Also Nissan is redesign the Leaf for 2017 with a 200+ range to mach the M3. Also if they use the IDS concept as a bases it could be a competing design. Competition is good.
competing=compelling but competing also works.
Calling the Volt range 420 is disingenuous. That's with a gasoline generator. The electric range is terrible. The Base model 3 may be around the same as Bolt but there's been a lot speculation that the Bolt range isn't apple to apple with Tesla because they aren't doing EPA range while Tesla is. Plus the Model 3 will have a longer range option probably in the 265-300 mile range.
OMFG kill this thread please.
slasher016: It is not disingenuous without a qualifier since range = range. Also on the Bolt Chevrolet will have to publish and use EPA range in the US, just like Tesla. As of now there has been no EPA test of either so both are technically speculation/vaporware. We should see the Bolt's EPA numbers before long since production is getting close. Do you have reason to believe that the Bolt will come in under 200 miles? Seems like a marketing disaster for Chevy to promise "a MORE than 200 mile range" and then come significantly under a 200 mile range. Also they are using a 60kwh battery so it should be a slam dunk to get an over 200 mile range.
carlos ... Why. I would commit 100% for such alternate configuration. Hope Elon see this thread too ...
I prefer the 205 mile range with the Vegan Seats. I loved the ones in the you tube video with the lady stain testing the material. They appear to be very resilient.
I dont need 205 mile range. Actually I would buy an M3 with 120 mile range, as long as Tesla saves the battery cost to make the base M3 to look and function better - Next Gen seats, dual motor, glass roof, etc. And it saves lithium and the Earth too ...
i think OP is hoping for a car for his/her needs within 35k. i don't think tesla m3 is the car for you. i think nissan will make it for you. having said that, i wish i can get 215miles/dual motor/vegan leather Tesla for 35k . we might have to wait for next gen.
Does this mean I get a choice of all beef seats, or all pork?
Cloth seats - My preference
Vegan seats - Animals are tasty.
AWD - I live in Phoenix, and have no need for extra traction.
2WD - works fine for me.
200 mile range - the minimum needed to be a real EV in the current world
140 mile range - I don't need a toy.
So the choice is...obvious.
frank visit flagstaff and plat in the snow AWD
The range is too small. Plus fake leather makes you sweat more.