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Where will your Model S reside?

Where will your Model S reside?

Tm has this informaton, but I think it would be interesting to develop a snap shot of where Model S' are being sold and will call "home". I'll start:

Signature #84
Vancouver BC

ViewAskew | 12 December 2011

P#3408

Headed for Fraser, MI

I’m tempted to move my reservation to a Sig however I’m currently on the fence. I wish I had a better understanding as to what the “extra” cost actually gets you. I don’t really need the 300 mile range (230 is sufficient) and even though Signature Red is gorgeous, I haven’t justified the expected extra cash. Hopefully they’ll trickle some more tid-bits in the near future to help me decide. I know time is running out to make a decision.

Mycroft | 12 December 2011

Yeah, except for the "Performance" package, I could get by with 230 easily. But since I DO want the Sport, I figured, might as well go for the Sig. You know, in for a penny...

EdG | 12 December 2011

You can always decide not to take the Sig once pricing is announced, even after the money for the Sig is sent. Once the list is full, though..

Mycroft | 12 December 2011

Tesla won't say where you'll end up on the list if you revert. And with a low number like 3408, Alan would want to be sure he wants a Sig before signing up. Unless he can get an answer from Tesla that he'd be able to get the same number if he reverted.

Brian H | 12 December 2011

So the solution is to keep the P# and add an S# and cancel one when he decides! I wonder how many are already doing that ...

Volker.Berlin | 13 December 2011

Many, I guess. That will make for quite a few drop-outs once final pricing is announced.

michiganmodels | 13 December 2011

@Alan Askew - I also live in Michigan. I am Signature S249. I plan on getting the Sport version. If you'd like to go for a ride when I receive mine on July 1st :-) (I know, wishful thinking), send me a private message through www.teslamotorsclub.com

ViewAskew | 13 December 2011

I never really thought about the fact that if I switch reservations I’d lose my original place in line. Hmmm… that changes thing’s for sure. The idea of reserving 2 is intriguing, only because they’re willing to refund the unused money. What I don’t like about that is holding a spot in line that someone else could have. There are a lot of curious buyers out there that are on the fence right now. Some of the individuals I know aren’t considering it because at this stage it would “appear” that you won’t get a vehicle until LATE 2012 if not 2013. That turns some off. I remember last April preaching to them how great it would be. Most laughed. Fast forward to the October event and EVERYONE is praising the car. Now they want to purchase one and cruise around next summer. Surprise, surprise… odds are against that happening.

@michiganmodels – That would be without a doubt one of the highlights of the summer for me. I’ll take note of this and contact you as it gets closer to the time of delivery. Having even a moment of “real world” exposure to the Model S will probably make the time go by a little easier.

Robert.Boston | 13 December 2011

@Alan:at this stage it would “appear” that you won’t get a vehicle until LATE 2012 if not 2013. That turns some off.

It's more than appearances; Tesla itself has made clear that 2012 production is sold out, unless you're getting a Sig. My bet would be that reserving today won't get you a car until April 2013 or later.

Is this a reason not to reserve? To the contrary; the sooner reserve, the sooner they deliver. It's a big time gap, but there's no guarantee that the gap will get smaller by waiting, while it is guaranteed that someone's delivery date will be later.

Volker.Berlin | 14 December 2011

It's more than appearances; Tesla itself has made clear that 2012 production is sold out, unless you're getting a Sig. (Robert.Boston)

Robert, neither us nor Tesla can possibly know how many drop-outs there will be when the time comes to close the deal. Surprises are possible both way, but if we assume that a considerable number of reservation holders reserved a Sig and a P, those are guaranteed to drop out the moment they finally decide for either one. That's what Alan refers to by "the Model S *appears* to be sold out".

I remember last April preaching to them how great it would be. Most laughed. Fast forward to the October event and EVERYONE is praising the car. Now they want to purchase one and cruise around next summer. Surprise, surprise… odds are against that happening. (Alan Askew)

Alan, I have no compassion with your hesitating friends. Everybody forges his own destiny. Having that said, I completely agree with Robert: If someone thinks he's late to the game, he should reserve today rather than tomorrow. If he doesn't, well then, no compassion from me...

Richard30 | 14 December 2011

S 860 Phoenix, AZ

Mycroft | 14 December 2011

Signature #860?! That would be a tad more than 725.

michiganmodels | 14 December 2011

@Richard30 - Is that correct, you are Signature 860? If so, what date did you receive your reservation?

gjunky | 15 December 2011

And in Phoenix. There will be three in the valley of the sun now.

ncn | 15 December 2011

Sig #101, Ithaca, NY

ncn | 15 December 2011

Pleased to see a Rochester and a Cazenovia. :-) I expected nobody else from upstate!

Leofingal | 16 December 2011

I actually expect to see quite a few upstate NYers once our cars are on the road. I think we have decent demographics to match up with Tesla's target audience, but I think they won't be aware of the car yet due to the lack of marketing. Hopefully it goes viral.

ncn | 18 December 2011

I know what you mean, Leofingal. Ithaca in particular is loaded with well-to-do environmentalists... who are car-dependent because we lost all our train service long ago. And because of Ithaca's location they mostly need far more range than the Leaf.

I think I'm likely to get the first, but there will probably be *dozens* within a couple of years.

petero | 25 December 2011

@ Larry Chanin. Enlighten me, where is Bump?

Brian H | 25 December 2011

"Bump" is a posting trick, a new reply just to move a thread to the top of a listing when it has faded into the oldie von moldie idle threads.

VincentA | 25 December 2011

Canada Sig #2
Salt Spring Island, BC
Garaged next to Roadster #905 :-)

jbherman | 25 December 2011

Sig 576
Leawood, KS/Kansas City

digitaltim | 25 December 2011

Baltimore on the weekends and NJ/NYC during the week...Sig 737.

ddruz | 25 December 2011

Oahu, Hawaii

Jerry | 26 December 2011

Sig #76, Short Hills, NJ

Robert.Boston | 26 December 2011

A friendly reminder that I'm tracking these graphically here:
http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=295135
Feel free to add yourself to the map. Please use your reservation number (e.g. S73, P1666, S35 (EU)) as the "name".

ddruz | 27 December 2011

Forgot my P# in my previous post, sorry: #2993 Oahu, Hawaii

Saxena | 27 December 2011

P3838, Issaquah, WA

jigish | 27 December 2011

P3623, Sunnyvale, CA

srobinson | 27 December 2011

Marin County CA Sig 831

Larry Chanin | 30 December 2011

@petero

@ Larry Chanin. Enlighten me, where is Bump?

What Brian said. Like what I doing now. ;-)

Larry

mlascano | 30 December 2011

Sig 729, Chagrin Falls, OH

phb | 30 December 2011

Hey Robert.Boston, I'm the General production reservation in Eugene, OR. (P5647) I've upgraded to S949.

ckessel | 30 December 2011

Woohoo, go Eugene, my home town (though I've been in Beaverton for 20 years now).

Robert.Boston | 30 December 2011

phb, you are upgraded on http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=295135 !

john.m.hennessey | 31 December 2011

I'm hoping that S931 will be in Madison, CT EARLY next summer. I'm glad to read that there are four others from CT. Mike_ModelS_P457,
Martin@malins, CarlE_P439, JohnQ we'll have to make arrangements to get together this summer.

john.m.hennessey | 31 December 2011

When do you think S931 will be available?

Mycroft | 31 December 2011

Some time between June and October. :-)

Robert.Boston | 31 December 2011

Since we're guessing, I'll guess about Labor Day. Tesla's sticking to the "deliveries start no later than July" line; even if, optimistically, they start on July 1, I think that early production will be at a slower rate than the ultimate rate, likely kicking out ~400 units in July and ~600 units in August.

Larry Chanin | 31 December 2011

Yeah, I have this image of Elon driving 20 Signatures per workday in June. ;-)

Lary

Robert.Boston | 3 January 2012

A reminder: please post your location here:
http://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=295135
Use red for Signature reservations, and purple for standard.

haansberger | 4 January 2012

P # 665 (EU) will reside in Kinrooi, Belgium.

Robert.Boston | 4 January 2012

Why is there such a high density of Model S reservations in Belgium & the Netherlands, compared to neighboring Germany and France?

Timo | 4 January 2012

I'm guessing different car taxes. Like Norway vs Finland. EV costs around 30-40% more in Finland than it costs in Norway.

haansberger | 4 January 2012

@Robert
I guess a lot has to do with the tax incentives you get both in Belgium and the Netherlands. France nevertheless has a very interesting incentive as well, so why they don't have more reservations escapes me. Maybe it is just a matter of less members on this forum or less people willing to post their reservation and location.

stephen.kamichik | 4 January 2012

Perhaps most people in France cannot read English. French IS their mother tongue. TM will also need a French website for Quebec because about 75% of Quebecers do not speak or read English.

MitchL | 4 January 2012

S#945 here, Saratoga CA.

/Mitch.

Brian H | 4 January 2012

As EU HQ, Belgium is rolling in OPM. And the EU 'crats and employees have non-revokable lifetime employment contracts (jk! sort of).

Also, both countries are tiny compared even to the other little EU nations, so range anxiety is a non-issue.

Volker.Berlin | 4 January 2012

Why is there such a high density of Model S reservations in Belgium & the Netherlands, compared to neighboring Germany and France? (Robert.Boston)

I've been pondering the same thought... I agree that taxes and incentives are a big deal compensating the general skepticism against EVs, and there are practically none in Germany (vehicle tax is waived for 10 years, but the 19% VAT are a real hit at purchase time).

In Germany, there's a considerable fraction of car buyers who don't give a thought about buying any non-German car make, and particularly American cars do not have a lot of a positive reputation over here. Given the choice of renowned German car makes, particularly in the premium segment, this attitude should come as no surprise. If anything, Germans consider French (economical, very comfy, lots of options as standard), Swedish (safety, exclusivity) or Japanese (economical/high-mpg, versatile, reliable) cars. To the average German, the mere fact that the big German players have nothing to offer in the plug-in segment is proof enough that the time is not right for this concept! (Although, the Prius sells pretty darn well, we have a sizable population of lohas here.)

The big German players themselves admittedly have highly sophisticated, very advanced ICEs. It's no wonder they want to milk that technology -- first, they are heavily invested into high-tech engines and sales must pay for R&D. Second, it's an important aspect of their competitive advantage in the global market. Switching to a different technology will render that advantage obsolete. In the end, the shift will take place with or without them, but it is very understandable that they ignore the trend to plug-in as long as possible (whether it will be too late eventually remains to be seen).

And here the argument feeds back into itself: German economic politics are vastly driven by the car manufacturers' lobby (you know, employment and all this stuff). You bet there will be no serious incentives for plug-in until and unless there are German plug-ins available on the market!

Davis | 4 January 2012

Sig 173 - Memphis, TN

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