Does anyone know a good solution?
I've heard of ones where the holes are drilled under the bumper. Not quite what you're looking for, but similar effect.
Why don't you just purchase a new nosecone? I hear so many people worried about this?? Makes no sense to me
Mark ZZZZ: Did you hear of this front tag mounting technique?
I found it on another forum posting.http://www.skenedesign.com/FPBracket/index.shtml
During the delivery survey it asked if you would like a front plate holder installed. Then below on that page it had a note that if you select no and change your mind later a service center can install one for you. So I figured I would take a chance and see how long I can go without the front plate and if I get a ticket then ill go get it put on.
TMC thread for that mount is here:http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/11956-Call-for-non-destruc...
The Skene bracket looks like a good solution but I wonder if mounting it on the grill will cut off air flow and cause problems with the battery system. I think I may call Tesla to see what they say.
I am think on trying either carpet grade double stick tape or some industrial Velcro I've used at work. Our state (MO) is close (I think) to getting rid of the front plate law. If not for that I would just bolt the thing on. I think it will be possible to clean the glue residue off from the tape or Velcro. If the plate falls off I'll just have to go back and get it and come up with plan B :-)
If you did not have plate holder attached at Factory, TM said you can have it placed anytime at TM service center.I had mine attached for delivery but I was clearly given the option to have it done later at the service center.
In Illinois you WILL get a ticket without the front plate, in no time.
Our BMW 5 which was a European delivery had the German plate on the front (which is still there after 3 years). It was mounted using double sided tape (must be an industrial grade) and the plate curves with the bumper.
Not sure if that solution will work with the Tesla.
I called Tesla Service in Chicago and they said that there is a heat exchanger behind that grill and that it probably was not a good idea to block it. They also said that you still needed to drill holes in the bumper and replacing the bumper was a lot more expensive than replacing the nose cone if you moved to a state that didn't require a front plate. I think I will go with the one they provided.
After much thought, I have found the best solution:
I asked Tesla not to install the front license plate license plate holder at the factory/delivery. At delivery time, they handed the license front plate holder to me. Now this part is key, so pay close attention. What I did next is I opened the trunk. In the trunk, there is a sort of pocket near the driver side rear wheel. There isn't one on the passenger side. It's only on the driver's side. That's a key detail right there. Unless they gave it to you in your hand, then there the storage case for the charging cable and adapters is probably in there. Now, this is the most key detail, HEAVY emphasis on the key. What I did is I took the license plate holder and placed it between the charging cable storage bag and the wall of the trunk. Then, I never thought about it ever again. I am probably going to make a detailed step-by-step video guide which I'll post to YouTube as I know it will help out many others.
@olanmills - haha you must have spied on my last week when my plates (finally) arrived! You have now told the whole world of my secret hiding spot :)
I keep my extra plate in that location but NOT the holder. Need some plausible deniability for why it's not pinned to the front bumper.
A friend also with a Model S is installing and removing his front plate alternate days. He claims that he has averaged a loss of 5-7 miles on his 100 mile (round trip) daily commute with the license plate on. Of course, he seldom drives under 70MPH, and 80MPH for him is very likely. He has been documenting his range loss for three weeks now. Would be nice if Tesla would run a test and shake the results on front of the DOT.
Ironically, I asked for the plate holder to be attached, and when my car was delivered - No plate holder installed. I would pull the OlanMills solution, except that I use the front plate mounted EZ-pass so I don't have to have crap stuck to my windshield. It would have been nice if the car was prepped per request.
Spoke to a state trooper today. She said if you don't have a front license plate you will get a ticket. I would advise the above posters to avoid her.
Why not petition state legislature to eliminate the front plate? Think of the savings only having to manufacture one.
if you live in a front plate state suck it up and go w/the installed one at delivery_doesn"t diminish the "cool factor"!
Here is my simple front license plate mounting solution:
1- Drill 2 sets of holes on the upper corners of the plastic license plate holder for the zip ties to go through; one set of holes on each upper corner.
2- Zip tie the plastic plate to the front grill, one on each upper corner
3- Put a couple of layers of packing tape or foam tape on the aluminum trim that the plastic plate is resting on to protect it from getting scratched
I mounted the plastic plate upside down compared to the factory way of mounting it.
You can easily & quickly install or remove the plate this way.
NOTE: I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WILL INTERFERE WITH THE HEAT EXCHANGER BEHIND GRILL. MAY BE SOMEBODY FROM TESLA CAN COMMENT ON THIS.
We are supposed to use front plates in Calif. But yesterday, just driving around town, I started counting oncoming cars with missing fron license plates and stopped counting at over 60 cars in just a few minute ride! Obviously, the law is not very enforced. I never noticed this before. Many of those cars were old clunkers, but many were sleek beauties where the owner probably just didn't like the looks of putting a plate in front. I'm not planning to put on the front plate.
I drove a BMW for 3 years without a front plate. Was never enforced until I was pulled over for speeding on the 101. Then was told to get it mounted. I don't think they (CHP) have the resources to be pulling everyone over for the lack of a front plate BUT will enforce if you give them another reason. I am taking my chances with the MS. Will use brackets and no holes. If they do tell you to have the plate mounted then you will have to take the car to a CHP office to show in a given period of time.
In Chicagoland, had the Model S since mid May 2013. Knock wood no front license plate ticket for a violation so far.
I purchased a Show-N-Go but won't bother putting it on until I get cited (California). This looks like the best solution since once it is installed you just pull it out for display on an as-needed basis.
Somebody posted this on our Facebook group (which you may like to join, Tesla Model S Owner's Club)http://www.amazon.com/Show-Go-License-Plate-Holder/dp/B001E4E0ZW/ref=sr_...
Show N Go license plate holder!
Trouble with Show-N-Go is you have to know in advance that you're going to be pulled over. Flipping the plate up after being nabbed is unlikely to have the desired effect!
Just took delivery of my 85 and am looking at "Hide The Plate.com
Has anyone tried one of these? I am looking at the manual flip up model.
@ivanbracic, yes, there are several of us in Hawaii that use the Show-N-Go. It looks nice and is not as obtrusive as the nosecone mounted or even the lower grill mounting method. There is at least one thing you need to consider. You must be more attentive when you pull into a place where you can hit it against the curb or something like that. Because it will break off or you will bend its metal mount. I've broken two, but I still use it. It gives you reason to be careful of the front. Still best solution currently available.
Yes I bought one and asked if the local SC would install the Show N Go; they politely said no. However, in looking at it it needs to be put into the plastic undercarriage and my thought is to use some type of smallmMolly screw with an expansion backing to hold it against the plastic on the inside. Anyone else know a better installation method?
@DC_POWRD, The Show-N-Go comes with blind fastners aka rubber barrel nuts. You simply get under the front with a 90 degree drill and 5/16" bit. You align the metal bracket so it provides point of contact for each of the three blind fastners. Be aware of your rear hole positioning so you don't drill up into the radiator. Its not really as seeing it as describing it. You naturally move the metal bracket forward enough so when the hinge flips up it stands at 90 degrees. When you do this, you have already moved the metal bracket forward enought to clear any risky drill hole. Then push the three blind fastners in, and hold the bracket in place as you screw the three small screws in. Fifteen minutes tops and you are done. The hardest part is; from the top of the splitter as NASCAR would call it, is finding the center across the front so the tag is centered.
I drove a Corvette for ten years without a front plate. Never a problem for me. At this stage in my life I'll probably just have them put it on at the factory though. I don't think it detracts from the looks that much. It looks like it belongs there.
Anyone know how much a new nose cone costs?
Side note: I'd be very careful attaching them with Double Faced Tape. My guess is, if you ever try to remove it, you will take the paint right off with it. Which to me is worse than a couple of holes in the nose cone.
I posted this before, but I got a $25 ticket for no front plate in West Hollywood, while street parking there. The ticket came from the meter maid.
I've read a similar post (ticket while parked on street) in San Francisco.
I've got a Skene plate bracket, which looks acceptable to me.
Two simple J bolts do the trick. Come in from the back while hooking to the mesh under the plastic plate. Done!
I seem to recall reading about $150. Not much.
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I was able to drive a good 4 months before getting dinged for having no front plate. My luck finally ran out this past weekend when I noticed the dreaded envelope stuck beneath my wiper.
I'm looking at the Skene and Torklift bracket which both look like great products, but it's hard to tell how the Skene would actually mount to the Model S. Pics anyone?
IMO the Torklift bracket looks much nicer since it's not mounted on the nose cone.
I like this article - 7 ways to install a front license plate on a Model S:http://www.teslarati.com/installing-tesla-model-s-front-license-plate/
Earlier I was touting "Show-N-Go" as the answer. I never did install it and have since then sold it: There are just too many parking bumpers and high curbs out there that scrape the plastic front underside of the S and would have ripped it off. I had a P85+ loaner yesterday with parking sensors and that was no better at finding the distance between the front of the car and the parking bumper and a high curb; it had air suspension as well but I didn't want to stop in the parking stall and engage it. My solution that someone else mentioned is from Amazon: for $11.47, order the "Cruiser Accessories 78410 suction cups". They come in a 4-pack, you only need 2, and just stash them pre-installed into the upper holes of your front plate in the trunk until you need them, generally from others are saying for use while parking in metropolitan city streets or in parking garages.
I used the j-boltg method. BUT, I put my license plate off center to the left (facing front of vehicle) to avoid the radar sensor that's in the center.
Drill a hole 3 1/4" down from the top; of the license plate, the diameter of the j bolts about a half inch in from each side. That'll guide you where to put the j bolts. The bolts need to be abou t 2 3/4" long but I had to buy 3 1/2" ones and after I had teh plate mounted on the car with the nugts that came with the bolts (and washers), I cut them off with a hacesaw. I removed the nuts and replaced them with aircraft nuts, that won't vibrate loose. Also, I put foam tape on the back of the plate where it rested on the trim.
Just don't put a front license plate on in when you get a ticket just pay it or Velcro it on if it's a fix-it ticket who cares.
The best solution is to take that ugly nose cone and have it wrapped in carbon fiber, LOL
Had the Skene plate since 2013. Just found out it fell off, after being pulled over by the Police. Not happy...
To be honest, I don't know why people worry so much about drilling holes in the front bumper. In CA, we are required by law to mount both plates. I assume it's the same case in most states. Like you, I was also looking at all no-drill options initially. I had a door handle problem and scheduled a Tesla technician to come by and fix it at my garage, while I was away on a business trip. My wife, after the tech fixed the door handles, requested him to help mount the 'just-arrived' plates. The tech drilled holes and mounted it in the front. When I returned home, my wife proudly announced that she also got the plates fixed! I was disappointed initially that she didn't check with me on it; but hey..what the heck, it's a goddamn license plate. Once mounted, we're going to forget about it. No big deal really! I want to be street legal and it's not worth getting pulled over and getting ticketed for not having a stupid plate in the front! It's also not worth spending money on 'robotic arms' 'hide under the hood' and 'no-drill' mount, etc. My two cents..
Start a movement to get rid of the front plate. PA does not have front plates.
@olanmills you made me truly laugh out loud! Any updates on good no-holes plate holders folks? I live in BC and don't want to put on the front plate at all, though it's the law... wonder if anybody has been able to talk themselves out of a ticket by having the plate in the trunk and explaining that it would interfere with the safety systems ;) Cheers.