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Any prices get increased today??

Any prices get increased today??

I did a quick check of the website, and I could not notice any price increases today.

Those owners who do not have the old EAP or FSD, did Tesla raise the price today for you to add on (buy) the new AP and FSD?

If so, what are the new prices?

rkalbiarEV | March 19, 2019

Nope. Maybe delayed until Wed.

MyRedM3 | March 19, 2019

Price increases delayed by two days, now wednesday night.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/19/18272586/tesla-price-hike-delay-order...

RES IPSA | March 19, 2019

Thanks

Hal Fisher | March 19, 2019

I love their reasoning, so we got a rush of orders and decided we have to delay it to get even more orders that rush in haha! I knew he would get addicted to the sales numbers. Why not keep the price where it is, it’s mostly just a software update anyway.

OCModel3 | March 19, 2019

I'm starting to worry that maybe sales have been slower than expected, so they made an excuse to extend the "sale" prices. No doubt Tesla is hoping to boost its cash position before the end of the quarter in 12 days.

rkalbiarEV | March 19, 2019

Yep, it's just a cash grab.

Hal Fisher | March 19, 2019

I know the sales are lower than expected because musk can’t plan for shit. He really needs to throw himself out of that job, or hire people who can accurately forecast. They should have given the plan of pricing to the consumer and let them decide when to buy instread of yelling fire at the end of last year. That was ugly. And the prices were way too high on the FSD and AP all along, they are where they should be now.

Rt002k | March 19, 2019

Nobody advertises what their pricing changes/sales are going to be more than a week or two out. If you were selling something, why would you advertise to your buyers today that in 30 days they can get the same thing for significantly less?

don.lind | March 19, 2019

so is that sarcasm? I hope? :-)
I mean, Tesla needs to survive.
And in general, that means they need to have enough income to do the things they need to do.
Tesla gets income mostly from selling cars. So it seems like setting prices to attract sufficient orders is what they need to do. I wasn't an economics major. But I'm thinking this is close to reality.

I know airlines change fares often, sometimes hourly, based on supply and demand.
And that's OK, right? But if Tesla adjusts prices, it's bad?

don.lind | March 19, 2019

@Rt002k - haha.... you just reminded me of back in the day... Burroughs would announce a big new mainframe, say, 4 months in advance of when it would be ready and as a result, totally crater sales of the current products... They learned after doing that a few times...

Hal Fisher | March 19, 2019

Well it should not have been significantly less, you fail as an advisor too. I know that if i were to buy any other car the price will stay realitively the same (the manufacturer would account for pricing due to other adjustments to cost).

Hal Fisher | March 19, 2019

But hopefully pure serendipity will save them now buy showing them what the prices of the upgrades should be. Luck plays to the well prepared.

burdogg | March 19, 2019

So there are two different price changes to talk about. One is the actual price of the car. That price is going up by 3% due to NOT closing all the stores.

The other price change has to do with AP and FSD for those that took delivery and didn't have those activated. The ONLY reason this price is changing is due to the hurt feelings people that didn't get the same deal. This one drives me nuts - so Musk decided to be kind and give a deal. But no, this is why we can't have nice things...because we have to please everyone.

I know, I choose to be happy for those that get deals, I choose to be happy for those that get good things in life, even if I didn't. Because learning to celebrate others good fortunes actually makes life much better, than always drowning a bottle of pickle juice every time someone has something good happen for them. What a miserable way to live - make yourself unhappy every time someone else has something good happen.

Ok, enough said - would be nice if the AP/FSD discount continued as a nice bone to those that bought their cars back before all the price changes...but again guess we can't have nice things :) (not everyone can come up with $5,000 in one week time)

burdogg | March 19, 2019

@Hal Fisher - " I know that if i were to buy any other car the price will stay realitively the same" - really? I see so many different "discounts" all the time from other car dealers...that the price is ANYTHING but the same. And then you leave thinking you got a great deal, only to find out that someone else negotiated an extra $2,000 off what you got!

Rt002k | March 19, 2019

Hal is mad that pricing changed for everyone, but is OK with "$3,000 cash back for those who qualify on President's Day". Not even everyone that buys that day gets the same price. At least everyone qualifies for the price of a Tesla on a given day.

rkalbiarEV | March 19, 2019

He changed those prices for 'those who could not afford it'. That's BS. Socialism needs to stay out of business!

burdogg | March 19, 2019

They used to charge $3,000 for Autopilot before the breakup with Mobileye. They then upped it to $5,000 and only added a handful of features (3 to be precise that really are not worth $2,000 more). I think he honestly used the wrong wording...They changed the price because most people may not have been purchasing it....they thought they could get people to buy for $5,000, but probably came to the realization that they overpriced it and had to readjust back to what they use to give for $3,000.

calvin940 | March 19, 2019

Hal Fisher | March 19, 2019
"I know that if i were to buy any other car the price will stay realitively the same (the manufacturer would account for pricing due to other adjustments to cost)."

You *know* no such thing. It's been disproven time and time again by lots of people that prices can be obtained, negotiated, discounted etc on a regular basis, time of year, what have you since cars have been sold. That statement is pure silliness.

Rt002k | March 19, 2019

@rk it's capitalism if there isn't enough demand at the price offered. Very basic capitalism.

burdogg | March 19, 2019

By the way, that was a 67% increase in the price back then!
to get what...
Navigate on autopilot (verses just choosing yourself to change lanes, click the blinker and let the car than do it. Where now, it gives suggestions to change lanes, you have to still click stalk, and then it changes)
Change from one freeway to another without your input
Take your exit off the freeway.

Really - those three things equate to a 67% increase in price???? So no...they just way overpriced their system and wit the 3 - it came back to bite them - as S and X customers were willing to pay the price, 3 owners were NOT. So they had to reprice it as they lose money every time someone says no thanks - as all the hardware is already there.

Javy | March 19, 2019

Is the price of SR+ increased as well?

burdogg | March 19, 2019

SR+ will increase by roughly 3%

The only one not increasing is just SR - it will stay at $35,000

thedrisin | March 19, 2019

I guess the FSD sale will keep being extended until no more buyers at the current pricing, then decrease the price again until those buyers run out, etc., until finally no more buyers,
than give it away for free to those who obviously can't afford it at any price. I'm happy for everyone.

inconel | March 19, 2019

How about the Model Y current prices? Would make sense then to order now...

Hal Fisher | March 19, 2019

I don’t buy till i know im getting the best price. But tesla is so unconventional it caught even me by surprise.

Hal Fisher | March 19, 2019

That’s just a grand or two and the wait is crazy. Doubt id do that.

Rt002k | March 19, 2019

@thedrisin - I think that would miss a big opportunity later when features actually roll out. There's an entire population of people that won't buy it at any price until it's actually released. Why give it to them for free if all they are really needing is an ACTUAL proven product to buy and then they'll pay $3,000 then?

Rt002k | March 19, 2019

@inconel - read the fine print on the Y. You are still subject to price changes until it's delivered.

donryu424 | March 19, 2019

I can't start a new post so I will ask here. "Anyone know when Model 3 Leasing will start??"

rkalbiarEV | March 19, 2019

@rt Yes, pure capitalism if it was not done 'for thoe who could not afford it.'

"In retrospect, lower price shouldn’t have been offered. Was done so because some simply couldn’t afford it. Prices revert to normal on Monday."

That's straight Socialism friends!

Rt002k | March 19, 2019

"those that can't afford it" = not enough people can afford it at the current price = not enough demand at current price. If they had enough demand at the higher price to fulfill their production they wouldn't have lowered prices. The wording is made that way to make it sound better to the street. If they flat out came out and said "there's a demand problem" it would crater the stock.

mrburke | March 19, 2019

For all of you talking about pricing and price changes, what do you think about airline ticket pricing ?

RES IPSA | March 19, 2019

I believe when you buy an airline ticket, your only ownership right is that of a temporary license of carriage. Completely different than an ownership right in a tangible piece of property like a motorized vehicle. Hence different pricing schemes.

Roger1 | March 19, 2019

In the world of car dealerships, pricing changes can be made behind the scenes between the car company and the dealer. Drop the price by throwing in an unpublicized dealer incentive without changing the public pricing. Remove the incentive if you have enough volume for planned production levels.

In the one price online for everyone, the car company cannot change prices without making them public. Every change, up or down, receives public scrutiny and comment.

mrburke | March 19, 2019

@Rodger1 - I think they call that "transparency"

jjgunn | March 19, 2019

I think I'm going to buy a car before Wednesday at midnight.

thedrisin | March 19, 2019

@rt002k. The people on the forums, like us, have a different perspective. There are alot of people that will not spend the money for a remote control car and stopping at a traffic light. Maybe when the cars are truly autonomous but not some cute features.

flyingd | March 19, 2019

New terms and conditions since a couple of days; ...Until your Vehicle is delivered to you, you
may cancel your order at any time, in which case you will receive a full refund of your Order Payment

jeff d | March 19, 2019

This is supply and demand... you got too much supply you need to increase demand. Am I surprised by what they did today??? Hell no, I had no doubt it would happen. It's sleazeballish in my book. It wouldn't be so much if he hadn't done it several times already.

Musk did it in December, tweeted nearly every other day that end of the $7500 tax credits was coming. Never once saying, we'll be lowering the price by $2000 a day later. (it was planned)

Then there was the referral program end date extension... FOMO on free supercharging and referrals.

Here same thing, lower prices, close stores. Nope, not close all stores, and prices will go up. We'll give you 2 weeks to take advantage of our mistake. If it really was a miscalculation correct it ASAP, there's no reason to extend it, act quick or your loss! This latest extension is just more proof Musk is a player, and running a simple scam. He was on track to be the Steve Jobs of EVs, but that has devolved and he's becoming the PT Barnum of EVs. I think consumers are catching on, suckers are born every minute according to PT, so there's a few more out there to hook!

RES IPSA | March 19, 2019

@Jeff.... that was a bit harsh... I think you give Elon and Tesla too much credit. In my opinion based upon my experiences over the past 9 months, it is more disorganization mixed with incompetence.

burdogg | March 19, 2019

Just curious - why does extending the date by 3 days really matter??? Why does it matter to you?? Who does it hurt?? What is your real issue with it?? Kind of lost here. So what...they decided to delay it by a couple days.

Oh and your tax credit situation - those that pulled the trigger still saved $1750!! So what, they shouldn't have continued to push what he did then - even though they were dropping the price?

Remember - some around here are very well informed and full well knew about the tax credit - but there are many, and I mean many, out there that had no clue...so come Jan 1, they would have been going wait, what - I don't get the $7500??? Why not??? Oh you dropped the price by $2,000 - but that still is equal to what i would have gotten had I taken delivery on Dec 31!

So either way they were screwed - so I have NO problem with the constant push to get people into the car before Jan 1 - those people still saved money...yet you act like it was some PT scam....

Sorry, just not following your logic how any of the things you cited have really been an issue - or should be an issue.

burdogg | March 19, 2019

isn't equal NOT is equal.

RES IPSA | March 19, 2019

To be clear.... I do not think Tesla has any sort of a nefarious intent.

gordon_r_benson | March 19, 2019

In my case the additional time gave me the opportunity to assess the feedback from forums, watch reviews of those who have received the SR+ and read the proverbial tea leaves on whether Elon will produce the SR in any meaningful numbers before the quarter runs out (Elon seems to as much as said they weren't going to). Then I can have a semi-informed discussion with my wife on whether to stay put on a SR base and possibly watch the rebate go down by half again. In the end I decided that potentially getting the upgrades for $125 ($2000 upgrade less $1875 of federal tax credit potentially lost) was worth it. Tesla would have lost money on me yesterday with a base SR and will be making a few bucks now.

dgstan | March 19, 2019

Clearly, the guy who updates the prices on the web page is on vacation. Stop reading so much into it.

burdogg | March 19, 2019

@gordon_r_benson - I really think you made a wise choice. The upgrades are worth it - and that is coming from someone who used to pass on upgrades on the car :)

Power seats and heated at that (love my heated seats - just love them)

Ok, maybe not worth $2000 for mostly just heated power seats, but if you care, the premium seat material is nicer too. But like you said - the risk of losing out might be too great so taking what you can get now is probably best move....

jeff d | March 19, 2019

@jjgunn
>> I think I'm going to buy a car before Wednesday at midnight.
Well, then you'd have a good reason to be here!

MillennialVet | March 21, 2019

Prices is now adjusted and is live. Check out this video and see the comparison price changes of all models and some discontinued offering as well. youtube link https://youtu.be/UCeZRwCwQMk

geno.kearney | March 21, 2019

My FSD price which was 3k yesterday is now 7k. Do they think there is any. Way in hell I would ever pay that for it now?

Ehecatl | March 21, 2019

Geno, I had the same reaction when I saw the price. It's not just no, but hell the fk no I'm not paying for FDS and the current price.

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