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New design model X

I am an early adopter of the model X, having purchased a signature P90D back in 2016. At the time, the range was not too much of a factor and I hoped the battery technology would advance to the point where a retrofit would be possible to get more miles per charge. Three years later, I was contacted by a Tesla sales individual to possibly trade in my X for a new design X with greater range, quicker performance, and the ability for fully autonomous driving. Here are my issues with taking this step:
1. I would lose lifetime free supercharging
2. The color is no longer available (signature red)
3. They would only give me $58000 on a trade in for a car with only 22000 miles towards the purchase of a new X that has fewer features.

If it was possible, I would really prefer to upgrade my battery capability and also get the front motor replaced with the same one currently available on the model 3. I know this would not give me the ability for fully self driving but, I have that on my model 3 when the system is updated (having already paid for the option).

When I bring these preferences to Tesla personnel, it goes no where.

Does anyone on this forum have any ideas?

jimglas | May 15, 2019

keep your car, or trade it in
those are your options
I would keep it

mathwhiz | May 15, 2019

You also have the option of selling your Model X outright, to a private party, to get better value for your vehicle.

I agree that the loss of unlimited free Supercharging is painful for those that enjoy long trips. And any thought of getting Tesla to upgrade the battery pack assembly or swap-in a Model 3 drive unit is a fantasy, I'm afraid.

Sorry.

bp | May 16, 2019

Unless there is a critical new feature, trading in an S/X for a newer model probably won't make much sense economically.

Vehicles will depreciate roughly 25% in value per year. 2018 and earlier S/X will also take a hit on depreciation because of the price decrease earlier this year.

If Tesla really wanted to encourage current owners to upgrade to newer S/X vehicles, they'll have to do much more than require them to purchase a performance model (for an additional $10K, with less range) just to get free Ludicrous mode (which doesn't provide any benefit for normal driving).

As an alternative to free Ludicrous, they'd get more current owner interested if they focused more on selling new standard or long range models - perhaps by adding free unlimited supercharging, including free FSD, adding free maintenance for the first 50K miles/4 years, …

But even then, the math works against them - because the depreciation makes a trade-in pretty expensive for owners who've purchased S/X in the last few years.

Redmiata98 | May 16, 2019

There is a small VIN range that were “transitional” vehicles which allowed the battery upgrade from 90 to 100 at a price. These were at the end of the 90 factory run and before the start of the 100. Given that yours is an early edition (like mine - Dec “15 build) I doubt your VIN is in that very narrow range and unfortunately your vehicle is not eligible for the battery upgrade. You SHOULD be able to get a definitive answer on your vehicle’s applicability from Tesla, as I did. If you are not successful by your means, try going to your owner page and send them the question through that option.
My vehicle has AP1 (which is sufficient minus the Nanny-nag) and although I would like the extended range provided by the 100, with the increased number of SC stations now the 90 is acceptable if inconvenient.
Tesla continues to advance and will continuously improve its vehicles coming out if the factory. If you can afford it, you can continually buy the latest and greatest one. I will run my current P90L until it has major costly functional problems and then perhaps look at replacing it. My X is still way ahead of all other non-Tesla vehicles on the market now. Enjoy your ride, hopefully your smile has not yet faded!

Yiayiafroumis | May 16, 2019

Thanks for the comments. We have decided to keep our signature X and will not either sell it or trade for a new one. The economics and features prohibit us taking that step. In the mean time, we still enjoy both our Teslas and have a smile on our faces every time we go anywhere.

AnonymousEV | May 16, 2019

> 1. I would lose lifetime free supercharging

We're keeping the car as a family hauler/road trip until it (if) falls apart. If we can do 500k on it, the car will basically be free in fuel savings at 4.50 gallon. With tension in middle east, $62/barrel won't be here for long.

If oil prices go crazy, you could get a nice premium on private party sale then.

sschaem | May 17, 2019

I was in a similar situation and opted to not buy a 2019 Model X solely based on Tesla trade in price.

The new suspension was extremely tempting to me, but the trade in value Tesla offered was a ripoff.

Tesla was going to make over $30,000 in profit off my MX trade in (I check Tesla used inventory to compare what Tesla sell the car for, compared to what they offered me)

Tesla is artificially destroying the car trade in value to increase its own resell profit.

But how does that benefit Tesla as a company ?
Yes, they might get an extra $10k on the resell by giving low ball offers to Tesla owners trade in.
But it seem that they lose a lot more when the Tesla owner refuse to do the upgrade.
In my case they could have sold a brand new P100DL plus made an additional $20,000 on the trade in.

sschaem | May 18, 2019

Update... it seem that Tesla F*U* . They use blue book for the trade in value, but they dont configure the car.
So you get the value with no options whatsoever.

I'm still trying to figure this out after 3 weeks. Very hard to talk to anyone at Tesla.

Sad to see how bad Tesla handle the sale process of $150,000 cars.... I get better service buying a freaking box of cereal.