How much should a landlord ask for an EV Charger in rental unit building?

How much should a landlord ask for an EV Charger in rental unit building?

I'm currently negotiating with my landlord to put in an EV charger in my rental building. Originally they asked for $240 per month, which I countered as ridiculous. My daily commute is about 15 miles round-trip w/ the occasional meeting around the area - which would bring the avg. daily travel to about 25 miles max.

What's a reasonable ask for them on the monthly basis to have this installed in my parking spot? $100? Obviously they will incur a cost to install it, but I want to make sure they aren't collecting a crazy margin off of this since that would be plain wrong.


negarholger | October 3, 2013

My MS uses about 7 MWh per year ( 15k miles ). At the highest rate of $0.36 during the peak or tier 3/4 that would be $2520 per year or $210 per month.
It all depends on the electricity rates. I charge at night and pay $0.10 per kWh.

I don't where you live and what is the appartments electricity rates. Check your electricity bill for the cost structure. If you are tiered and they are applying the highest rate then $240 maybe not far off.

Rule of thumb
Miles driven * 0.34 kW/m * 1.25 * electricity cost per kWh.
Note: the factor 1.25 is the estimated charging efficency... actual is probably a little lower.

Blueshift | October 3, 2013


My cost for electricty (straigh from my electric bill) is $0.13/kWh, or equivalently $0.13/1000 Wh
My energy use per mile, reported by the car, is 335 W/mile.
I'll use an efficiency factor of 1.15.


($0.13/1000Wh)*(335 Wh/mile)**1.15 = $0.039 (about 4 cents per mile)

If I drive 25 miles every day:

(25 miles/day)*(30 days/ month)*($0.039/mile) = $29.25 electricty cost

Blueshift | October 3, 2013

correction 1: Energy usage is 335 Wh per mile, not W.

correction 2: Multiple error, cost per mile should be 5 cents per mile, which makes monthly cost $37.5

Blueshift | October 3, 2013

But anyway, someone who drives twice as much would use twice as much electricity, so it seem like long term landlords (and tenants) will want individual meters.

Skotty | October 3, 2013

There are many ways this could be done. The most important question is, does that monthly amount include the electricity used? That's a key point.

Ideally, they would pull the power from the same unit, so that the electricity cost goes directly to your electric bill. In which case the cost should be limited to something reasonable for initial installation and ongoing maintenance. But there are reasons why they might not be able to do this.

Another option is they just install a charger that is essentially free to use (the facility pays for the electricity), in which case, the monthly charge will have to be enough to cover average usage. Which could be a lot.

Another option is to have it metered in some way, independent of any unit. This would cost more to set up probably, but would have the flexibility of making the parking spot essentially a separate rental product. You would probably get 2 electric bills in that case.

Another option is to arrange to install a unit from a company like ChargePoint, and the cost of the electricity comes off your chargepoint card.

Lots of possibilities. What are the planning? And have they considered all the possible options? However, the fact that they are considering installing one at all is a miracle, so be happy for that.

Captain_Zap | October 3, 2013

Let the landlord know that he will benefit in the future by having an EV outlet. There will be people looking for that when renting in the future.

Some condo builders were forced to put in EV charging in certain cities and they complained about the cost. It turns out that it increased the value of the units dramatically. So they are now putting in more EV outlets than they are required to because the payoff is so high for them.

RajShah7 | October 4, 2013

Thanks a lot everyone - this is very helpful. To clarify (sorry for not being clear before) - the charge of $100 is a flat rate to use the charger as much as I need. It will vary, but again I think my usage will be approx 25 miles on average per day, if not less.

Brian H | October 5, 2013

You may find yourself doing a lot more joy-riding and touring than you think. ;)

Captain_Zap | October 5, 2013

+1 Brian H

TI Sailor | October 5, 2013

As a landlord, I would likely not want to install a charger in a space assigned to a specific apartment, although . I might place one in a designated guest parking space. Still, if a tenant requesting a charger agreed to a multi-year lease with commensurate deposit and reasonable monthly fee, I might change my mind. If they mesh with your future housing plans, consider offering those incentives to your landlord in your negotiations

RajShah7 | October 5, 2013

This is true Brian H!
Okay thank you for all the help. I think I am going to settle with the $100 unlimited usage in an assigned spot. My commute may be short, but I have some definite buffer to really floor the pedal when I have the opportunity, and good for doing ahead of road trips.
I have had the car one week now and can't wait to keep getting back in the drivers seat...

Roxanne's Curator | October 8, 2013

A similar issue is under the Forum topic Condo Approaches to EV charging (multifamily housing solutions). I was successful in getting my condo board to allow me to plug in to 110 outlet that already exists and use the on board trip meter and/or odometer as guages to estimate the electricty used. In our area btw, we have a negotiated rate of .08/kwh.