I'm not sure if this is known to everyone or if it was posted already. I found it and thought I'd share though. On a side note... MI is REALLY letting me down right now.
This is very helpful; I am trying to gather information about incentivs in order to write a letter to the "Powers that be". I came across the following yesterday:
"Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI) is an independent, entrepreneurial, nonprofit think-and-do tank. RMI emphasizes integrative design, advanced technologies, and mindful markets in fulfilling its mission to drive the efficient and restorative use of resources. RMI’s strategic focus is to map and drive the U.S. transition from fossil fuels to efficiency and renewables by 2050. RMI’s Project Get Ready works with cities and industry leaders to develop best practices for electric vehicle integration and adoption. With a network of over 25 cities and 40 strategic partners, this project seeks to identify challenges and opportunities for the seamless transition to vehicle electrification. To learn more, visit rmi.org.
The Electric Vehicles Initiative (EVI) is one of eleven initiatives of the Clean Energy Ministerial, a high-level multilateral forum to promote policies and programs that advance clean energy technologies. EVI seeks to facilitate the global deployment of 20 million electric vehicles (EVs), including plug-in hybrid electric vehicles and fuel cell vehicles, by 2020. EVI will enable progress toward this goal by encouraging the development of national deployment targets; launching pilot cities to promote EV demonstrations in urban areas, and share experiences and lessons learned; sharing information on funding levels and research and development programs to ensure that the most crucial global gaps in vehicle technology development are being addressed; exchanging information on EV deployment targets, as well as best practices and policies, to enable progress toward those targets; and engaging private sector stakeholders to focus on the benefits of public-private investments in technology innovation and EV procurement for fleets."
I was most interested in the financial incentives various cities in their casebook offered. In just about every situation, there was a generous incentive--removing sales tax, etc.
Tesla: Please ensure your deliverers inform Model S owners about the national and local rebates and benefits. For example, my local electric utility (LIPA) is offering a $500 one time rebate to residential customers who buy an EV. While most of us are probably aware of all the incentives, it would be a shame if someone lost out on a local rebate for lack of knowledge.
Is there a post on just this subject by state? I for one would be the guy to miss out on incentives for being uninformed about them. In the Bay Area, CA I know of HOV access, $2,500 credit that will expire very soon and the one we all know of it the $7,500 Fed credit. I don't know of any other utility, green energy, or other incentives outside of that. I already have Solar so I can't take advantage of the SolarCity offerings.
Tesla set up their own website (a while ago) that lists EV incentives by country and state:http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric/incentives
If you think the list is incomplete, I'm sure someone at Tesla is glad to hear about it!
Looks like Finland isn't in the list. I can help: there is no incentives to buy EV in Finland. All you get is lowest possible car tax that all cars get because BEV automatically falls into category of least polluting cars. In addition to that you get extra tax that all non gasoline-powered cars get ("temporary" "diesel tax" that has been in for about 30 years now) + one additional small tax that plugin-hybrids get (which normal hybrids don't get). IE. you get penalties for driving BEV.
From what I understand, state of Illinois' EV rebate not available unless vehicle is purchased from an IL dealer.
Illinois info verbatim:
"The vehicle must be purchased from an Illinois dealership and the purchase invoice must show that the business is located in Illinois. No out-of-state vehicle purchases are eligible."http://www.illinoisgreenfleets.org/fuels/
The local incentive I mentioned above, from my local electricity provider, does not show on http://www.teslamotors.com/goelectric/incentives/US/New%2520York .
It may not be listed because this incentive is not a government incentive, nor is it for the whole of New York State. But I still think it is TM's business to tell their customers directly about it, whether or not they decide to put it on that web page.
it may be in TM's interest to tell customers, but it's hardly its responsibility! It's in no promise or contract, explicitly or implicitly.
It's just a lot easier for one centralized, interested party to learn about all these things, and organize them, than for each customer to do research individually. If they don't do it, a customer expecting a high level of service who misses out on an incentive might be forgiven for thinking that the company dropped the ball. True, a follow-up lawsuit wouldn't be fruitful. So what?
I'm just saying that TM should make it their business to know and distribute the knowledge. It's just good customer service.
One comment about state incentives I found hilarious: Electric cars are exempt from annual emissions inspection.
Isn't that supposed to be default on all pure EVs? How is that a benefit?
Well.. It's a benefit to the inspector who would otherwise have to figure out how to hook up the test equipment.
That would be a benefit for me to watch them try and look stupid trying!
And a benefit to the owner who doesn't have to await a sniffer's verdict about whether he has to choose between expensive catalyst upgrade or replacement and eye-watering license surcharges.
There have been some instances where an EV has failed the test because there was no tailpipe to put the sniffer in.
Good news for California EV buyershttps://energycenter.org/index.php/incentive-programs/clean-vehicle-reba...
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Is that just apocryphal, or is it documented? Even bureaustupidity seems inadequate to cause that ...
All Model S models are eligible for $2,500 through the Clean Vehicle Rebate Project, a $7,500 Federal tax credit, and HOV lane single-occupant access.
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Legislative Detail: NY Assembly Bill 6592 - 2011 General Assembly
Exempts electric vehicles from state sales and compensating use taxes and grants municipalities the option to provide such exemption.
- Is that just apocryphal, or is it documented?
Well, unless the poster in the Prius group where I saw it was not telling the truth about his experience, it's documented.
@EdG. Sorry to burst your bubble but LIPA won't pay the $500. rebate in 2012 on any EV but the Volt and the Leaf. I'm working to get this policy changed, but up till now, no joy.
Hmmm.. I see
"What cars would qualify for 2012?
At this time, the qualifying vehicles are the Chevrolet Volt (PHEV), Nissan Leaf (PEV) passenger cars, Mitsubishi i-MiEV (PEV), and Toyota Prius Plug-in Hybrid (PHEV)."
The Roadster isn't there, either.
Don't get your hopes up if you're in MA. They're still struggling with HOV legislation. Other than that, bupkis.
While some states are providing various incentives for EV, take heart if you think your state isn't doing enough. In Missouri, there is a tax disincentive! From the Missouri DMV website: "owners of motor vehicle which operate with liquid petroleum (LP) gas, natural gas, or electricity must annually purchase a special fuel decal prior to January 31 and pay the annual decal fee. The annual decal fee is based on how the vehicle is licensed." The decal fee for a passenger car is $75/yr. I suppose this is to make up for lost revenue from lack of gas tax BUT we are paying all kinds of charges (i.e. taxes) on our Ameren electric bill. Not quite fair IMO
@jrb@johnandlind: I contacted LIPA. Whether the rep I spoke to was correct or not, she told me that the reason Nissan was listed but Tesla was not is due to Nissan's requesting to be put on the list. I don't know what such a request entails (money?), but I passed the contact information for getting onto the list to a California Tesla person who assured me the information would get to the correct department.
Hopefully LIPA is not dealing too down-and-dirty (as they have already with me on one occasion, but not one other) with this, and Tesla cars will be listed too.
WA state will have an extra $100 per year (gas tax) when you get your tabs each year
@EdG: I'm happy to say that after quite a bit of research through LIPA's bureacracy I was able to reach the policy setter/administrator for the PEV rebate program. His name is Kevin Harrison and last week I introduced him to Tesla Motors. Yesterday he called me back and said that Tesla would definitely qualify for the rebate; to send the forms to his attention; and to enjoy my new car.
Great! Where do I send your share of my winnings?
@sykstream3 - yup the WA "non-gas tax" $100 surcharge for EV is a negative tax benefit! However, by saving 8.4% sales tax I can pay that surcharge for 80+ years!
yes sales tax is a good tax benefit. Or lack of sales tax
I revised the letter written originally to the governor and have since sent it to state reps. Anyone is more than welcome to use any or part of it for your state gov't. Edit out the Vermont stuff, though! Sorry; the formatting always gets messed up when I cut and paste.
We must promote electric vehicles (EV’s) in Vermont. EV’s benefit the environment because they do not rely on fossil fuels; they ease our reliance on the Middle East, and they relieve the consumer from the detrimental effects of volatile gas prices. Convincing the public of the benefits of EV’s has been an upward battle because of a number of factors. People have “range anxiety,” worrying about whether or not they will be able to reach their destination on a single charge. Consumers are leery of the unknown. EV’s are cost-prohibitive because of the batteries, new technology, and economy of scale. Vermont needs a law which makes the purchasing of electric vehicles exempt from sales tax so that more people would be willing to consider EV’s as a viable choice.
Range anxiety is a significant factor for people considering the purchase of electric vehicles. One concern is that EV’s can lose up to 30% of their charge in winter conditions. Because of this, many models still are hybrids, which need gasoline in order to operate. Manufacturers estimate that the Chevy Volt can travel 35 electric miles before needing to be charged again. If drivers do need to stop and charge the vehicle, it will take hours to do so. While charging stations are becoming more prevalent, one still needs to consider the time spent charging an automobile in order to travel a greater distance. Are people willing to stop and charge the car for an hour in order to drive less than an hour further? Ownership of an electric vehicle is a commitment that people are more likely to make if they are offered some incentives. The Chevrolet Volt costs nearly $32,000; a Chevy truck can be had for $22,000. Relieving the consumer of state sales tax on EV’s would go a long way to helping one purchase the electric vehicle.
The following examples are contributing factors to the public’s concerns regarding electric vehicles. Will the cars continue to be produced? Will the consumer be able to get the vehicle serviced? Will the driver need to be concerned about safety? Is there a risk of fire or electrocution? Many people would feel more secure to stay with the known. Incentives, such as relieving the buyer of sales tax would “sweeten the pot.”
If one wants to own a vehicle that uses no gasoline, there are options such as the Tesla—a new American car manufactured in California. Its range is 300 miles, but the price for the increased battery capacity is an additional $20,000. While this car is billed as a luxury car, people will buy it because it has solved the range anxiety issue while totally eliminating the need for gas. It has also gained a five-star safety rating by the NHTSA . Unfortunately, many of the EV’s on the market today tend to look and feel like toys. The argument has been that if a person can afford such a car, then he does not need a break on sales tax. If people were to read the forums, they would realize that this is a popular misconception; on the contrary, many potential buyers are waiting for a car such as the Tesla because of safety, environmental and political reasons, even though it will hurt them financially. It is crucial that some “early adopters” take this very important leap of faith so that others will follow. Prices on battery packs will eventually drop, and manufacturers will all start to make electric cars, but initially, the public needs coaxing with financial incentives. A number of states are waiving the sales tax on electric vehicles. Vermont needs to step up to the plate and truly live up to the name: The Green Mountain State!
Many people considering the purchase of an EV are doing so to protect the environment and to be free of Americans’ “addiction to oil.” If one were to look at the cost of solar energy as an analogy, the argument could be made that the savings don’t warrant the expense. People make that investment because they believe strongly in doing their part to make their “carbon footprint” as small as possible. According to the Rocky Mountain Institute, 25 major cities around the globe have been successful in promoting electric vehicles; they all have something in common: they offer substantial financial help to the consumer.
“As the EV City Casebook demonstrates, a number of major cities and regions around the world are committed to making electric mobility a reality. They are actively pursuing ambitious deployment goals through a variety of innovative policy measures and programs. While these approaches are often tailored to each city’s particular circumstances, many common practices emerge. For instance, many cities employ a mix of financial and non-financial consumer incentives to boost demand for vehicles and charging infrastructure. Incentives include rebates or tax credits on vehicles (often paired with national government purchase subsidies), exemptions from vehicle registration taxes or license fees, discounted tolls and parking fares, as well as discounts for recharging equipment and installation.” http://www.rmi.org/Content/Files/EV_City_Casebook_2012.pdf
If we, as a state, are truly serious about overcoming the many obstacles in our path, we need to be serious about helping the consumer purchase EV’s, thereby encouraging the car manufacturers to produce them. If consumers could subtract the cost of sales tax from the purchase of an electric car, more people would seriously consider such a vehicle. By saving the money normally spent on the vehicle’s sales tax, and, instead, invest that money in the battery pack, it would help to equalize the end cost when compared to a regular gasoline car. This just might be enough to swing the pendulum toward electric vehicles.
Thank you for your consideration to this matter,