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new firmware 7.0 release notes

Lots of discussion over at TMC regarding newly leaked release notes for 7.0. Some interesting stuff including screen shots...

http://www.teslamotorsclub.com/showthread.php/52021-Firmware-7-0-Beta-Di...

summary:
- lane keep
- Improved performance at top speed and initial start (below 3 mph), even on RWD vehicles
- torque sleep on RWD vehicles
- improved regen on 60 kWh cars
- faster and more efficient climate control
- hill hold on all road grades, even flat
- parallel parking for AP cars
- improvements to side collision warning system (better range)
- individual tire pressure readings
- power meter on energy app and energy app automatically shows up when limiting is in effect

CaboJim | 18/09/2015

Can't wait I'm sure it will be released "soon".....

Haggy | 18/09/2015

We are 12 days from the end of the third quarter, and I've never known Tesla to drag their feet.

Davidb0229 | 18/09/2015

LOL

AmpedRealtor | 18/09/2015

As an owner of a classic P85, I'm thrilled with all of the new features for classic cars including single motor torque sleep, driveline and acceleration improvements. Bring it! :)

Haggy | 18/09/2015

Hill Start Assist is becoming Hill Hold, but will work on flat roads? Isn't it then just plain Car Hold?

AmpedRealtor | 18/09/2015
bishoppeak | 18/09/2015

How do you torque sleep a single motor? Isn't that just coasting?

NKYTA | 18/09/2015

EAP, Early Access Program?? Oops Rishwi.

zini | 18/09/2015

bishoppeak: you can turn "creep" mode off. :)

Haggy | 18/09/2015

I'm assuming that somebody got a screen capture of Rishi's phone without permission and it has nothing to do with the release notes. The email says nothing that we didn't already know.

zini | 18/09/2015

but, i think they are specifically talking about when you are stopped at a light and have your foot on the breaks... or in Hold mode....

Opafiets | 18/09/2015

@NKYTA, the Grewals have a long history of doing things their own way.

Haggy | 18/09/2015

Grewal is a common name though.

zini | 18/09/2015

The leak was made to the Tesla Owners Worldwide Forum on Facebook. Once Mr. Grewal realised he was in violation of his NDA, he removed his screenshot of the email and photo of the software. He did not, however, release the release notes. Only the screenshot with the toggles and email, but quickly removed them when we told him he might lose his status in the program. For what it's worth, Grewal didn't release the Release Notes draft pics.

AmpedRealtor | 18/09/2015

@ Haggy,

Rishi posted the screen shot of his phone to the Worldwide FB group, which then made its way to TMC. I linked to the photo at TMC.

zini | 18/09/2015

In that same thread, another owner who was not a member of the program reported also receiving the new 7.0 software.

AmpedRealtor | 18/09/2015

What is of interest in the email to Rishi is that the language seems to indicate that this is the first time Autopilot (auto steering, auto lane keeping) was released to the beta team.

Opafiets | 18/09/2015

True, but only two named Rishi that I'm aware of. Adults who would own an S anyway. :-) BTW, my comment was not intended to be disparaging for any taking it that way. Quite the opposite.

Haggy | 18/09/2015

Perhaps Tesla is keeping with their tradition and announcing the same features with each maintenance level of 7.0.

Bighorn | 18/09/2015

Dear Rishi
We regret to inform you...

L3X | 18/09/2015

I think EAP members aren't even supposed to acknowledge they are in the program... I sure won't break my cover when (yes when hehe) I get my call to glory :D

Haggy | 18/09/2015

How would you know what the agreement says unless you are in the program? You just blew your cover.

rhianon.allen | 18/09/2015

We returned to our car yesterday and found a message that there was an "unsuccessful" download effort. We were parked in a parking garage with a lousy connection. The message said we would be recontacted but haven't been and no "download ready" icon either.

Anybody else have this?

inconel | 18/09/2015

Who was betting that we won't see AP this year?

rxlawdude | 18/09/2015

@rhianon - what version are you currently on? It's probably a minor update (.76 or somesuch).

sean | 18/09/2015

@bishoppeak I wondered the same thing. But one of the comments talks about better control of the power to the motor. At rest there was some current still going to it. I read that they can now turn the power on and off quickly enough you can't notice it, so it can be Off more of the time.

So I assume that the control the current to the motors when driving is also handled better. Allowing for less power drain.

It's probable "very technical" ;-)

Muzzman1 | 18/09/2015

That same email to Rishi continued to reiterated that he shouldn't be sharing. I wonder if he will be removed from the EAP?

inconel | 18/09/2015

@muzzman1 how do you know the rest of the email?

milesbb | 18/09/2015

I believe torque sleep is the de-energizing of the induction motor field. When the car is not asking to add or removed power to the wheels the motor can be operated in two ways to accomplish this. One way would be to match the speed of the rotating magnetic field to the speed of the rotor, in this way no torque is transferred to the rotor. The other way would be to de-energize the motor field which also stops torque transfer to the rotor. The simple way is to match the rotating field speed to the rotor speed, in this way the when you want to add or remove power you just increase or decrease the rotating field speed (inverter frequency). The problem with matching the speed of the rotating magnetic field to the speed of the rotor is that maintaining the rotating magnetic field come with small magnetic and copper losses that drain battery energy. It looks like Tesla is about to change operation of the RWD cars so that they de-energize the motor when no power transfer is needed to the wheels.

Haggy | 18/09/2015

That same email to Rishi continued to reiterated that he shouldn't be sharing. I wonder if he will be removed from the EAP?

I doubt it. NDAs cover what isn't already public knowledge. There's nothing in there that wasn't already known. We all knew that 7.0 is being tested. We've also been told by Tesla that they hope to have those features out. I was personally told by somebody in Fremont that they expected it. Of course he didn't commit to a date, and I'm sure he didn't know one. But enough of us have been told that Tesla's goal was to get those features out by the time the X hits the market that there's no way Tesla can say that Rishi's fraction of an email gave anything away. It didn't even give away who Rishi is because I can find at least a dozen people with that name.

You can't violate an NDA without disclosing something confidential.

Even this thread contains things that Tesla didn't plan to disclose but it wouldn't make sense for them to yank it, given that it's available elsewhere. Tesla isn't hurt by any of this because it's all positive except the speculative parts, which aren't negative either but matters of preference. We have no way of knowing if any of this is final.

NKYTA | 18/09/2015

I'm still trying to warp my head around Miles's posting. It sounds right, cue the BH.

Pungoteague_Dave | 19/09/2015

inconel "Who was betting that we won't see AP this year?"

What's descibed in the beta is a long way from full AP as described a year ago. We don't have AP until the car can drive into the garage and self-park, and return on demand. All of the features shown here, except lane change, are already on many other cars, including my daughter's four-year-old Prius and on any fully equipped luxury car or truck, including our 2015 F-150 pickup truck.

Pungoteague_Dave | 19/09/2015

inconel "Who was betting that we won't see AP this year?"

What's descibed in the beta is a long way from full AP as described a year ago. We don't have AP until the car can drive into the garage and self-park, and return on demand. All of the features shown here, except lane change, are already on many other cars, including my daughter's four-year-old Prius and on any fully equipped luxury car or truck, including our 2015 F-150 pickup truck.

Tropopause | 19/09/2015

PD, don't be a downer. This is exciting stuff but you're correct- it's not here yet...

Bighorn | 19/09/2015

NKYTA
The way I read it, it's just referring to the special case of RWD being at a standstill, so theres no need to speed match an idle rotor.

sbeggs | 19/09/2015

@NKYTA,

We won't hear more about this until Tesla comes out of warp sleep!

TheBigO | 19/09/2015

Torque sleep can have a great saving, whenever you lift the pedal but not so much to come into the regen area.

SbMD | 19/09/2015

If what they plan to do is to implement torque sleep at a standstill or in the moments of releasing the pedal while still in motion, then there would be further power savings for both the AWD and RWD MS.

Quote from JB Straubel about torque sleep in the D (consider the point about the keystrokes):

"Despite this aerodynamic challenge, highway cruising is where the unique benefit of the dual motor cars, to torque sleep one of the drive units when not in use, is most apparent. Much like a modern computer that can actually sleep in between keystrokes, the dual motor Model S will quickly torque sleep a drive unit when torque is not needed and instantly wake it up as the accelerator is pressed to command more torque. It continues spinning while asleep and the digital torque wake up is so fast that the driver can’t perceive it. It is far superior to the slow and awkward engine start-up on stop-start hybrid vehicles."

inconel | 19/09/2015

PD I did not know that Prii already had full automatic steering to keep the car in lane 4 years ago. That is very impressive.

priustech | 19/09/2015

Guess they released the 2016 Prius with radar cruise control four years early?

maheshgv.az.us | 19/09/2015

Considering the constant pitch from tesla "killers" and "rivals" (which I feel are better called competitors) on how their technology is better, efficient, etc., I would have expected Prius to scream about their auto-pilot related features.

KeepAusWired | 19/09/2015

Most of these updates look very good, but I will truly miss the original speed/power combination in the current instrument cluster. I have always felt that the current arrangement was a very elegant way of displaying all of the car's critical information in one place (speed, range, and power usage). I don't like the idea of having to look in multiple places for this information, let alone the fact that I will have to display the energy app on the dash (which I currently never do) in order to see real-time power usage.

Bighorn | 19/09/2015

You're looking at beta stuff--not finished product. Conclusions are not warranted.

AmpedRealtor | 19/09/2015

@ P_D,

Really, the Prius had hands-free lane keeping and auto lane change four years ago? Which model? You might want to let Toyota know, because I'm pretty sure they weren't even aware that their cars could do that. Or maybe you're just hitting your medications a little too heavily.

Your interpretation of Autopilot is not the common interpretation. Most would agree that auto lane change and lane keeping are the key features of Autopilot that most are waiting for, as is parallel parking. Most won't care about the car parking itself in the garage. And I don't need to remind you, of all people, that Autopilot features are being rolled out over time. The other features will arrive when they are ready.

Maybe you should focus on canoeing down the Danube or whatever it is that you are doing.

derek | 19/09/2015

Until this update ships, it's only as real as the Porsche Mission E by 2018.

inconel | 19/09/2015

That's a tough comparison given that one is already in beta testing.

rdalcanto | 19/09/2015

Darn it! I got very excited by the title and thought it was released. I want 7.0 so badly! I guess I'm back to waiting and hoping I get it before the 8 year warranty expires on my P85D.....

njelectric | 19/09/2015

Actually my 2010 Prius had lane keep assist, parallel parking, collision avoidance, dynamic cruise control in the tech package. I was sorry to lose those features when I got my 2013 Tesla. Tesla is catching up.

inconel | 19/09/2015

@njelectric how does lane keep assist work, does it just beep/buzz when you deviate from the lane or does it steer by itself?

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