6.45 am here, waiting, waiting, I thought it would never come.
It is just like Xmas.
On your post, log the time please?
1:20 pm oct 16 in SoCal. I wouldn't expect the announcement to be made at midnight, though. Probably around 24 more hours to wait. :(
Ross, location would help too. My time zone is PDT. I assume you're in Australia?
AUS, yes. Called AEST, Australian Eastern Standard Time.
New Zealand is 2 hours ahead of us. We are currently 1 hour ahead of ourselves due to daylight saving.
And do you really think it will go out today at any time soon?
Are we not still waiting for a September announcement, or was it August, about when the rocket burned out?
08:27 East AUS
@Ross - I think tomorrow as it is just early evening in California. 4:01 PDT October 16 2016 still here,
I suppose above your most recent comment it says October 17, but my view says October 16 above your comment.
Maybe we should just convert to GMT? :)
The OP was meant to carry a little humour BTW.
10:22 am AEST
Moved to Wed per tweet from Elon.
Well, if it's on the 19th, then Ross will get there long before us. Maybe he'll share the secret since it'll get there almost a day before California? Soon, anyway. :(
@soudman - I googled and can't find any delay to Wednesday. Please post the tweet link. Thanks.
Delayed to Wednesday. This is crazy - Tesla timelines don't even hold for product announcements! Good luck getting that Model 3 in late 2017.
@cica- oh well.... It happens when it happens.
Elon is having his little bit of fun....and he deserves it
Playing the press
This is a bit weird. Either the product is ready for PR or it's not. Someone made a bad call :(
No, he's just refining his presentation. Product is ready.
He's smoking the good stuff again.
Actually playing the press for 2 more days of free publicity. Always intended, right?
Elon is Busy Today
@McLary lol. That was cute.
I've said it before, whenever Elon chooses to do something, that's the right time. The guy's changing the world by himself. I know we're excited, but we must keep in mind that we will see it soon enough.
Ummm, he slept in.
I see there is an event scheduled for January 4th at the Gigafactory. I wonder if it will be Model ≡ part 2.
Probably trying not to upstage the ESA Mars landing tomorrow.
While I would love for it to be the Model 3 part 2, it just seems that they would announce that event as that event and not beat around the bush about it. But I'd be happy to be wrong. :)
Mars Landing, thanks Octagon, I would have missed it
ESA: Lander begins final descent to Mars
European-led space mission to search for signs of life on Red Planet after seven-month journey from Earth.
The primary goal of the mission is to find out whether life has ever existed on Mars [EPA]
After a seven-month journey, a lander on a European-led mission to Mars has left its mother ship and headed towards the Red Planet's surface with the aim of searching for signs of past and present life there.
The disc-shaped Schiaparelli lander separated from the spacecraft Trace Gas Orbiter (TGO) at 14:42GMT on Sunday, starting a three-day descent to the surface of the planet to test technologies in what the European Space Agency hopes will be its first ever Mars rover.
Signals received from spacecraft, which is to orbit Mars and sniff out gases around the planet, did not at first contain data on the lander's onboard status, but the space agency later said that the link with the craft had been restored.
"On the side of [Schiaparelli] I would say that the separation was a success," Paolo Ferri, head of mission operations at the space agency, told Reuters news agency at the Space Operations Centre in Darmstadt, Germany, after it had been confirmed that the lander had split from its spacecraft.
READ MORE: Water found on Mars
Schiaparelli, part of the European-Russian ExoMars programme, represents only the second European attempt to land a craft on Mars, after a failed mission by Britain's Beagle 2 in 2003.
Landing on Mars, Earth's neighbour some 56 million kilometres away, is a notoriously difficult task that has given trouble to both Russian and US space agencies' efforts.
But a seemingly hostile environment has not detracted from the allure of Mars, with US President Barack Obama recently highlighting an ambition to send people to the planet by the 2030s.
Elon Musk's aerospace firm SpaceX is developing a massive rocket and capsule to transport large numbers of people and cargo to Mars with the ultimate goal of colonising the planet, with the tycoon saying he would like to launch the first crew as early as 2024.
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The primary goal of ExoMars is to find out whether life has ever existed on the Red Planet. The current spacecraft, TGO, carries an atmospheric probe to study trace gases such as methane around the planet.
Scientists believe that methane, a chemical that on Earth is strongly tied to life, could stem from micro-organisms that either became extinct millions of years ago and left gas frozen below the planet's surface, or that some methane-producing organisms still survive.
Schiaparelli is scheduled to reach the atmosphere of Mars on Wednesday, using a parachute and thrusters to slow its descent from a speed of nearly 21,000 kilometres an hour, before touching down on the planet's surface. Entry, descent and landing will take less than six minutes.
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The second part of the ExoMars mission, delayed to 2020 from 2018, will deliver a European rover to the surface of Mars. It will be the first with the ability to both move across the planet's surface and drill into the ground to collect and analyse samples.
The cost of the ExoMars mission to the European Space Agency, including the second part due in 2020, is expected to be about $1.4bn.
Nothing much going on right now, just a bunch of screen watchers watching screens...
Apparently it will take something like three days to do the full deceleration and landing.
@rgrant - Either the product is ready for PR or it's not.. I agree. As much as I love Tesla, their media management seems somewhat, ah, undisciplined. I work for a large corporate and you simply do not announce anything until you are 100% ready. Not 99% ready, not planning to be 100% ready in 3 days. 100%, now. Basically you ask "could I do this right here, right now?". If the answer is no, the media does not go out until you are 100%.
2 days is not enough time to "refine" a product. Refine a PowerPoint presentation yes. Product no.
The optics are not good, it is grist to the mill for Tesla haters to reinforce their world view that Tesla is incapable of delivering on time.
As to whether this is just a tactic to play the media, I don't buy that either. It's unprofessional for a start, and doesn't really work. The announcement itself (if it's any good) will deliver the media miles, not any games beforehand.
Sorry to give such a downbeat assessment but I think it's poor form and poor media management.
And having delayed, my god you really need to front up in 2 days time. To delay again would be unforgivable.
Wednesday it is. Just in time to be lost in the shuffle of the next debate.
Getting ready for the Tesla Bank announcement on Wednesday! Elon's version of GMAC?
Really? It will happen, maybe not on Wed, but it will happen eventually. Read about his past life in the banking industry before you scoff at his vertical integration plans.
It won't be long now, doth quote yon monkey.
Tesla's self-driving hardware now has eight cameras, rather than the four in previous simpler autopilot vehicles. This new hardware will provide 360 degree visibility around the car at up to 250 meters of range and also have 12 updated ultrasonic sensors to detect both hard and soft objects and a forward-facing radar that can see through 'heavy rain, fog, dust and even the car ahead.'
The vehicles will be equipped an on-board system powered by Nvidia that achieves '12 trillion operations per second, basically a supercomputer in a car.' This system uses a newly developed ‘neural net for vision, sonar and radar processing software.’
All Tesla cars being produced are now being built with full autonomous hardware capabilities, so will all Model ≡ .
And the starting price for the M3 is now? Oh you didn't read that most important tidbit, there between the lines......
$35,000 plus options, and yes AutoPilot 2 options will cost extra, and no we don't know how much.
You misunderstand. Base price must go up if new expensive hardware ships with every car.
So McLary, why don't you just add the hardware cost to $35,000 and let us all know the new price?
We all in fact do know the cost of software activation fees (updates of software included)
Enhanced Auto Pilot $5,000 ($6,000 upgrade after delivery)
only then you can add-on
Full Self Driving Capability $3,000 ($4,000 upgrade after delivery)
Of course you realize the base price of $35k was made up by EM in 2012 or 2013? It has no basis in fact, other than "Elon said".
You tell me how much 4-8 cameras plus 12 sensors, plus radar, cost, plus some decent margin?